DXWG Weekly Telco
19 June 2017
<Caroline_> https://www.w3.org/2017/06/12-dxwg-minutes
+1
<Jaroslav_Pullmann> +1
<erics> +0 wasn't here
<newton> +1
<Caroline_> +1
Resolved: accepted minutes
kcoyle; Three sub-groups - Use Cases, DCAT, application profile
Ixchecl_F: updated Use Case template
… question - separating out identification of stakeholders
… proposes to carry out - no objections heard
<Caroline_> roba: some of the use cases we haven't had the chance to discuss yet
<Jaroslav_Pullmann> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1z8UVjMEPoqp69ZHXk6asY6tCHHECglk4-3Lznd5dxS0/edit#heading=h.cmfhj7ago0ev
roba: Generalised versions of Use Cases ID4 and ID6
kcoyle: can we make a link from wiki - needs to be publicly visible
kcoyle: some Use Cases have multiple Use Cases implied - can these be teased out?
<kcoyle> roba: link could be to use case document or add new use cases, or edit use cases as provided
<kcoyle> roba: or new document for agreed use cases
Jaroslav_Pullmann: not planning to rewrite raw inputs
kcoyle: consolidated document needs to be on github
… single place to do that
proposed consolidated use cases for voting on?
kcoyle: F2F focus on consolidating Use Cases
… high priority
Caroline_: migrate to github with tracking ?
+1 to consolidate - but how to promote consolidated versions over "raw inputs?"
Happy to move generalised and voted-on cases to a new wiki page
<Caroline_> roba: propose to create another wiki page with the use cases
<Caroline_> ... the ones that are being discussed and voted by the group
Jaroslav_Pullmann: use status tags?
<Caroline_> roba: I prefer to consolidate the agreed versions in one place
<erics> Could it be SumitPurohit?
<erics> Hi Sumit :-)
<SumitPurohit> Hi Everyone :-)
<Caroline_> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Use_Case_Working_Space#Modeling_agent_roles
<kcoyle> We don't at this time have a place for comments on use cases, although that would be a good idea
<kcoyle> roba: need to cover common cases; using blank nodes are hard to query against
<kcoyle> ... but need to weigh flexibility
<kcoyle> ... this is something we can use in other use cases where there is a general need and some people need something special
<kcoyle> +1
Jaroslav_Pullmann: supports minimal set of common properties - but problem is the many forms this takes - is it a case for application profiles
kcoyle: need a straw man proposal for the simple common agent roles.
roba: defining roles a solution issue no t a UC responsibility
<Caroline_> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Use_Case_Working_Space#Modeling_agent_roles
PROPOSAL: Accept UC ID13 with edits to address the commonality of the pattern of common properties and detailed descriptions in profiles, and the need to agree a list of roles in the specificaton process
<kcoyle> PROPOSAL: Accept UC ID13 with requirement to create an agreed list of roles for DCAT with the remainder for profiles
roba: lost issue of using a common mechanism for simple/extended definitions
… add as requirement?
kcoyle: perhaps a new Use Case as a placeholder
<kcoyle> +1
+1
<antoine> +1
<Caroline_> +1
<Jaroslav_Pullmann> +1
<newton> +1
<nandana> +1
<mathieu> +1
<SumitPurohit> +1
<DavidBrowning> +1
<erics> +1
<present__Ixchel_F_> +1
<PWinstanley> +1
Resolved: Accept UC ID13 with requirement to create an agreed list of roles for DCAT with the remainder for profiles
roba: how do we review edits? I will copy to consolidated UC doc -
<Caroline_> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Use_Case_Working_Space#Modeling_funding_sources
Caroline_: we will then vote at next meeting if necessary
antoine: please send a email to the group when new edited version published.
is this more a job for a specialised vocabulary?
Jaroslav_Pullmann: sub-use case of agent role
<kcoyle> good catch!
PWinstanley: agree - need opportunity for hierarchy of agents
… needs a controlled list - authority list
<PWinstanley> +1 to Antoine's comment
antoine: not a hierarchy of types of agents, but one of roles
kcoyle: great deal of information about a funding source
… therefore about the role, not the funding information
<kcoyle> roba: detail of funding role is not limited to DCAT - could be specialized vocabulary
<Caroline_> roba: funding role is not limited to DCAT
<kcoyle> ... trick here is to have extension point in profiles
<Caroline_> Me ID31
<Caroline_> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Use_Case_Working_Space#Modeling_funding_sources
<Caroline_> the first was ID13 https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Use_Case_Working_Space#Modeling_agent_roles
PROPOSAL: edit ID13 update to include case of funding source identification as an example
<kcoyle> +1
<Caroline_> +1
<Jaroslav_Pullmann> +1
<newton> +1
<erics> +1
<DavidBrowning> +1
<nandana> +1
<PWinstanley> +1
<antoine> +1
<SumitPurohit> +1
Jaroslav_Pullmann: noes this is provenance
+1
<present__Ixchel_F_> +1
Resolved: edit ID13 update to include case of funding source identification as an example
<kcoyle> https://www.w3.org/2017/dxwg/wiki/Oxford_Attendance_and_logistics
Caroline_: reminder to put F2F attendance on wiki
bye
<DavidBrowning> exit
<Caroline_> bye! :)
<DavidBrowning> bye
<SumitPurohit> Bye..