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<lisa> agenda: this
<lisa> scribe: kirkwood
LS: next thing to put forward is personalization, next week afer accessbile authetification
this is the one to get to, accessbile authentication
<lisa> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/COGA_Auth/results
LS: sent out a survey
... these are the survey results above
<lisa> https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/23
LS: issue 23
... one of the comments the new wording didn’t support all
comments discussed in github
<lisa> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2017Jun/0045.html
<lisa> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2017Jun/0040.html
LS: this is the thread regarding authentification, that was emeail to the summary that was said
<lisa> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2017Jun/0045.html
<lisa> https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/23
<lisa> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/COGA_Auth/results
LS: putting links in for
Mike
... survey results and comments and issues and tried to sum up
what was wrtitten
... the link to archive 40 is the summary
... they wanted us to reach out to check if authentication, to
writie to the web authentication people and check with them if
they are comfortable with it
... John might want to respond to email earlier today
JR: to address feed back that givien?
LS: step one setup a call with
athentication people to make sure not creating a problem.
... sent an email and think CC’d COGa if didn’t can write a
repsonse and cc COGA to setup a call to make sure everyone is
comfortable with the wording
... have you consulted experts?, they asked. then they will
have a comfort level from an athentication andd security point
of view
... need to get that happening before thursday
... another comment people didn’t feel every issue in the
github comments had been addressed
JR: quite significant and not a simple answer
LS: tried to respond on call know
lots of people use two step but its not usable by a lot of
people
... like lots of places use catcha, don’t think thats
legitimate as long as alternative
... not sure about the four characters with dyslexia
JR: not sure if four characters
would work
... not sure how four characters could be an ok exception,
where does four come from why not 5 or 3
LS: I would imagine dyslexic could use four,
<lisa> ACTION: johnrochford ansewer the four comment [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/19-coga-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-219 - Ansewer the four comment [on John Rochford - due 2017-06-26].
LS: John could I ask you why not happy with four characters in github comments
JR: regarding commentary, what i’m worred about is my repsones not good for group. Mike could i run responses by you
Mike; yes
Mike’: with cognitive disability virtueall every authentication will fail one or another of our bullets on there. may be no conceivable alternatives I’m guessing out of this
LS: i don’t understand that
MP: what is alternative method that doesn’t break rules
LS: the link
... the link would be two step authetivation
JR: yes that is one
LS: that is the latnative
... that is the alternative
... a smart card, login through facebook, can do two step
athentication, there a lots of alternatives available
... we are not trying to catch everyone, but these are
alternatvies
... John and Mike if you could go through repsones on github
that would be important
JR: what is the due date?
LS: if we don’t get in on Thursday won’t get through
MP: tomorrow I’m available
JR: I will address everythinkg i
can today and I’ll send it to you
... should i respond to each comment or a master response?
LS: however you prefer, just make
sure if you respond, make sure you tag with and @ sign so they
will be told in comments
... looking over the survey will be very helpful
JR: survey you are referring to the questionnaire?
LS: yes
JR: if Mike and I can do the plan we talked about I expect the responses will be there tomorrow. The day before it will be addressed
LS: it is on the agenda for tomorrow not sure if on agenda for Thursday. If we can get it on for tomorrows meeting
MP: i can try and take a look
this evening
... not clear what comment refers to, sounds like it needs to
be reworded.
JR: there is a lot of feedback and worried about getting through it by tomorrow
LS: i’ll try repsonding to Alastair and if you want to join in that wold be fine
JR: can you see if you can get accessible authentivcation in thursday agens and a meeting with wb authetication group
<lisa> ACTION: lisa to try and set up the meeting with web authetifcation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/19-coga-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-220 - Try and set up the meeting with web authetifcation [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2017-06-26].
LS: I’m going to try and respond
to Alaisatars [inauudibele] and on email strings
... two other small things there was request for an aexcetpoin
for places that interferes with legislation, any problems with
that. Seems completely reasonable
... does anyone have a problem with that?
JR: i would think ti would be an
exception
... what is the excetption?
... an example would be what?
LS: banking for example maybe has a character requerement of some number of characters
JR: thats ok if we need to do it to get through
<lisa> Essential steps of an authentication process, which rely upon recalling or copying information, have alternative essential steps, and an authentication-credentials reset process, which do not rely upon recalling and copying information.
LS: think it should be an or intstead of and
yes
Is that ok with everyone?
<lisa> should: Essential steps of an authentication process, which rely upon recalling or copying information, have alternative essential steps, OR an authentication-credentials reset process, which do not rely upon recalling and copying information.
MP: it should be AND but it could be repeated. It would be rather wordy but possibly clearer
<lisa> Essential steps of an authentication process, which rely upon recalling or copying information, have alternative essential steps which do not rely upon recalling and copying information, OR an authentication-credentials reset process, which do not rely upon recalling and copying information.
LS: will repeat to be unambiguos
<Pietro> WebEx link is not working
Pietro I had difficulty too
<lisa> Essential steps of an authentication process, which rely upon recalling or copying information, have one of the following:
<lisa> -alternative essential steps which do not rely upon recalling and copying information, OR
<lisa> - an authentication-credentials reset process, which do not rely upon recalling and copying information.
LS: i wll change, and put in github is that what we want tod do
MP: yes
<Pietro> I got WebEx by https://mit.webex.com/mw3200/mywebex/default.do?siteurl=mit
<lisa> and I will add the exception for legislation
<lisa> exception for law
LS: I’ll do that before tomorrow and add the excetion regarding law
<lisa> legal requirement\
LS: change to legal
requirments
... reminding everyonw to fill on survey, if they see critical
mass saying ready to go than the push to do that
... the questionnaire regarding to accessbile
authentication
MP: maybe we should get acc ross that text has chenged and need to update responses
JR: asking about standard versus high risk login activity and haven’t addressed
LS: he wants us to address
dangerous sensitive user data
... commentor wants us to exlude places with highr risk
material
MP: we are sort of addressing
this
... high risk is subjective
LS: there are smart cards, that is something they could provide regarding the big companies
JR: the other thing talked about is that copying and pasting also, how do we do that?
LS: could be bulooth authentification, or have link copy the number or press link
bulooth/bluetoooth
LS: while Mke on call Thursday 3pm uk. Endo of July switch calls then.
LS; keep this time through June and July and after July change call to 10 am EST on Thursday
LS: I really encourage you to join in on WCAG calls
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