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19 Jun 2017

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kirkwood, MichaelC, Pietro, janina, Mike_Pluke
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kirkwood

Contents


<lisa> agenda: this

<lisa> scribe: kirkwood

LS: next thing to put forward is personalization, next week afer accessbile authetification

accessible authentication

this is the one to get to, accessbile authentication

<lisa> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/COGA_Auth/results

LS: sent out a survey
... these are the survey results above

<lisa> https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/23

LS: issue 23
... one of the comments the new wording didn’t support all comments discussed in github

<lisa> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2017Jun/0045.html

<lisa> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2017Jun/0040.html

LS: this is the thread regarding authentification, that was emeail to the summary that was said

<lisa> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2017Jun/0045.html

<lisa> https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/23

<lisa> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/COGA_Auth/results

LS: putting links in for Mike
... survey results and comments and issues and tried to sum up what was wrtitten
... the link to archive 40 is the summary
... they wanted us to reach out to check if authentication, to writie to the web authentication people and check with them if they are comfortable with it
... John might want to respond to email earlier today

JR: to address feed back that givien?

LS: step one setup a call with athentication people to make sure not creating a problem.
... sent an email and think CC’d COGa if didn’t can write a repsonse and cc COGA to setup a call to make sure everyone is comfortable with the wording
... have you consulted experts?, they asked. then they will have a comfort level from an athentication andd security point of view
... need to get that happening before thursday
... another comment people didn’t feel every issue in the github comments had been addressed

JR: quite significant and not a simple answer

LS: tried to respond on call know lots of people use two step but its not usable by a lot of people
... like lots of places use catcha, don’t think thats legitimate as long as alternative
... not sure about the four characters with dyslexia

JR: not sure if four characters would work
... not sure how four characters could be an ok exception, where does four come from why not 5 or 3

LS: I would imagine dyslexic could use four,

<lisa> ACTION: johnrochford ansewer the four comment [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/19-coga-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-219 - Ansewer the four comment [on John Rochford - due 2017-06-26].

LS: John could I ask you why not happy with four characters in github comments

JR: regarding commentary, what i’m worred about is my repsones not good for group. Mike could i run responses by you

Mike; yes

Mike’: with cognitive disability virtueall every authentication will fail one or another of our bullets on there. may be no conceivable alternatives I’m guessing out of this

LS: i don’t understand that

MP: what is alternative method that doesn’t break rules

LS: the link
... the link would be two step authetivation

JR: yes that is one

LS: that is the latnative
... that is the alternative
... a smart card, login through facebook, can do two step athentication, there a lots of alternatives available
... we are not trying to catch everyone, but these are alternatvies
... John and Mike if you could go through repsones on github that would be important

JR: what is the due date?

LS: if we don’t get in on Thursday won’t get through

MP: tomorrow I’m available

JR: I will address everythinkg i can today and I’ll send it to you
... should i respond to each comment or a master response?

LS: however you prefer, just make sure if you respond, make sure you tag with and @ sign so they will be told in comments
... looking over the survey will be very helpful

JR: survey you are referring to the questionnaire?

LS: yes

JR: if Mike and I can do the plan we talked about I expect the responses will be there tomorrow. The day before it will be addressed

LS: it is on the agenda for tomorrow not sure if on agenda for Thursday. If we can get it on for tomorrows meeting

MP: i can try and take a look this evening
... not clear what comment refers to, sounds like it needs to be reworded.

JR: there is a lot of feedback and worried about getting through it by tomorrow

LS: i’ll try repsonding to Alastair and if you want to join in that wold be fine

JR: can you see if you can get accessible authentivcation in thursday agens and a meeting with wb authetication group

<lisa> ACTION: lisa to try and set up the meeting with web authetifcation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/19-coga-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-220 - Try and set up the meeting with web authetifcation [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2017-06-26].

LS: I’m going to try and respond to Alaisatars [inauudibele] and on email strings
... two other small things there was request for an aexcetpoin for places that interferes with legislation, any problems with that. Seems completely reasonable
... does anyone have a problem with that?

JR: i would think ti would be an exception
... what is the excetption?
... an example would be what?

LS: banking for example maybe has a character requerement of some number of characters

JR: thats ok if we need to do it to get through

<lisa> Essential steps of an authentication process, which rely upon recalling or copying information, have alternative essential steps, and an authentication-credentials reset process, which do not rely upon recalling and copying information.

LS: think it should be an or intstead of and

yes

Is that ok with everyone?

<lisa> should: Essential steps of an authentication process, which rely upon recalling or copying information, have alternative essential steps, OR an authentication-credentials reset process, which do not rely upon recalling and copying information.

MP: it should be AND but it could be repeated. It would be rather wordy but possibly clearer

<lisa> Essential steps of an authentication process, which rely upon recalling or copying information, have alternative essential steps which do not rely upon recalling and copying information, OR an authentication-credentials reset process, which do not rely upon recalling and copying information.

LS: will repeat to be unambiguos

<Pietro> WebEx link is not working

Pietro I had difficulty too

<lisa> Essential steps of an authentication process, which rely upon recalling or copying information, have one of the following:

<lisa> -alternative essential steps which do not rely upon recalling and copying information, OR

<lisa> - an authentication-credentials reset process, which do not rely upon recalling and copying information.

LS: i wll change, and put in github is that what we want tod do

MP: yes

<Pietro> I got WebEx by https://mit.webex.com/mw3200/mywebex/default.do?siteurl=mit

<lisa> and I will add the exception for legislation

<lisa> exception for law

LS: I’ll do that before tomorrow and add the excetion regarding law

<lisa> legal requirement\

LS: change to legal requirments
... reminding everyonw to fill on survey, if they see critical mass saying ready to go than the push to do that
... the questionnaire regarding to accessbile authentication

MP: maybe we should get acc ross that text has chenged and need to update responses

JR: asking about standard versus high risk login activity and haven’t addressed

LS: he wants us to address dangerous sensitive user data
... commentor wants us to exlude places with highr risk material

MP: we are sort of addressing this
... high risk is subjective

LS: there are smart cards, that is something they could provide regarding the big companies

JR: the other thing talked about is that copying and pasting also, how do we do that?

LS: could be bulooth authentification, or have link copy the number or press link

bulooth/bluetoooth

LS: while Mke on call Thursday 3pm uk. Endo of July switch calls then.

LS; keep this time through June and July and after July change call to 10 am EST on Thursday

LS: I really encourage you to join in on WCAG calls

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: johnrochford ansewer the four comment [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/19-coga-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: lisa to try and set up the meeting with web authetifcation [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/19-coga-minutes.html#action02]
 

Summary of Resolutions

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