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Internationalization Working Group Teleconference

15 Jun 2017

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Addison, David, JcK, Richard, andrewc, JohnO, fantasai
Regrets
Bert
Chair
Addison Phillips
Scribe
addison

Contents


previous minutes https://www.w3.org/2017/06/08-i18n-minutes.html

<scribe> ScribeNick: addison

Agenda

Action Items

https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

richard: encoding tests, ran again. suspicion that things are changing
... ran tests for FF nightly, chrome, canary
... significant progress, in good part due to Henri finishing his work
... FF much more conformant
... identified a bunch of issues with the tests
... need to find time to fix the tests
... Henri has reviewed and signed off several other tests

action-615?

<trackbot> action-615 -- Addison Phillips to Finalize floating time article for publication -- due 2017-05-04 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/615

close action-615

<trackbot> Closed action-615.

action-622?

<trackbot> action-622 -- Richard Ishida to Forward poe/ordl comments on behalf of bert -- due 2017-06-08 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/622

addison to do 622

action-623?

<trackbot> action-623 -- Addison Phillips to Reach out to webidl regarding tag-issue-178 -- due 2017-06-15 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/623

close action-623

<trackbot> Closed action-623.

action-624?

<trackbot> action-624 -- Richard Ishida to Publish qa-floating-time for wide review -- due 2017-06-15 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/624

close action-624

<trackbot> Closed action-624.

Info Share

TPAC registration reminder

richard: unicode 10 to be released in about a week
... look out for it
... in the meantime

<r12a> https://r12a.github.io/uniview/?block=soyombo&char=11AA0

richard: can play with unicode 10 in uniview
... link above includes soyombo block and a character in that block

david: where is soyombo from?

richard: central asia
... haven't linked to the script links page
... hope to do soon
... hoping to publish full text of standard at same time as data files (for the first time)

<r12a> https://r12a.github.io/uniview/?block=cham

Radar

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

fantasai: box align on the list?

addison: send me a link and I'll put it on

http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/

richard: they closed the international email addresses issue
... we asked chaals to talk to us but it didn't come off
... may need to fish out/reopen
... should probably try to put a comment on the html issue list

<scribe> ACTION: addison: check status of HTML EAI issue and reopen as necessary [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-i18n-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-625 - Check status of html eai issue and reopen as necessary [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-06-22].

richard: getting a few questions from edx javascript course

Semantic Sensor Network Ontology (review)

<scribe> ACTION: addison: notify semantic sensor network ontology folks that review is complete [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-i18n-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-626 - Notify semantic sensor network ontology folks that review is complete [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-06-22].

[webidl] Serialization of natural language (TAG issue 178)

pull together core doc, then requirements for specs

<fantasai> https://www.w3.org/TR/css-align/

richard: include intro material into specdev?

<scribe> ACTION: addison: pull together "requirements for language and direction information in data formats" draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-i18n-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-627 - Pull together "requirements for language and direction information in data formats" draft [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-06-22].

<scribe> ACTION: addison: send to list the documents to be combined [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-i18n-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-628 - Send to list the documents to be combined [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-06-22].

AOB?

fantasai: overview of css-align

addison: areas of interest?

fantasai: two sets of properties, logically derived

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/TR/css-align/

fantasai: sensitive to writing-mode
... one thing that's tricky
... start/end are relative to containing block
... align-self uses containing block's direction
... that way start for list is to the list, not the list item
... also self-start/end
... baseline alignment is very hairy
... using the "dominant baseline" by default
... using container baseline, hanging off that. that's tricky
... other thing is opposing writing-modes
... if you have mirrored writing modes, allow first vs. last

addison: (pines for illustrations)

fantasai: haven't figured out how to make easy to understand

addison: timeline?

fantasai: pretty soon?
... can fold in comments post-CR

richard: ttml and imsc folks, can anyone pitch in on discussions

jck: can you send summary to list?

richard: putting link in

<fantasai> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1171

fantasai: is there a mode break-all for punctuation but keeps letters together

<r12a> John (and others) look at http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/ under TTML and IMSC

<fantasai> Is there a mode where kinsoku rules are relaxed entirely, but there exist restrictions on letters?

don't know one, but might still exist?

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: addison: check status of HTML EAI issue and reopen as necessary [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-i18n-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: addison: notify semantic sensor network ontology folks that review is complete [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-i18n-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: addison: pull together "requirements for language and direction information in data formats" draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-i18n-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: addison: send to list the documents to be combined [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/06/15-i18n-minutes.html#action04]
 

Summary of Resolutions

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