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CAPTCHA findings - reporting to APA Working Group

jgw: There's agreement on list we can forward this to APA for use updating the Tuering Test paper.

sh: Agree

jgw: Understanding has always been this would be collaborative with APA.
... May be more to add as we go forward, but things seem ready now.
... I saw one more paper with nothing really knew.

DRAFT RESOLUTION: Forward Captcha findings to APA WG, with proviso additional updates may be forthcoming.

RESOLUTION: Forward Captcha findings to APA WG, with proviso additional updates may be forthcoming.

jb: Still wanting to point out that captcha should be no more than differentiating humans from machines
... Rather they differentiate pwds as machines

jgw: Notes that Jason and Janina will work on the APA update edits.

sh: Noting there's also the point that captchas aren't that good at security, either

jgw: Notes not effective against organized crime because human labor can be enlisted to database captcha solutions.

<Judy> [jb: hears sh suggesting that this language go up front. Slight morph/combo of judy and scott's language: "rather than separating humans from computers, most CAPTCHAs separate able-bodied from disabled humans; nor do they do well for security, either.']

<Judy> "Rather than differentiating humans from computers, most CAPTCHAs differentiate disabled from able-bodied humans. Additionally, they often fail to protect security effectively."

<Judy> "Rather than differentiating humans from computers, many types of CAPTCHAs differentiate disabled from able-bodied humans. Additionally, they often fail to protect security effectively."

<scott_h> suggestion: "A common issues associated with CAPTCHA to rule people with disabilities as a bot and sas such it prevents effective participation"

jgw: More generally known as "human interaction proofs"
... There's literatrue about crowd sourcing
... Crowd sourcing being used to create a db of questions and answers

jb: Please someone remember to bring this up as edits move forward

jgw: Will do

janina: Also me

jb: Still talking with Wendy about when we might be able to schedule a conversation

Other research topics: updates/discussion

jgw: nOting the upcoming APA meeting on Personalization Approaches which may provide research questions
... We need to be aware
... Will communicate results here from this meeting
... Looking at bio factor based authentication
... Not anywhere in W3C, but in EU and US reqs
... Issue appears to be having multiple bio metrics available for users to prefer among

sh: I've been working on WoT a11y, aimed at completion late summer

js: Suggests looking whether proposals include assessment of ability to deliver. Questions ability using IPv4 and NAT

[general discussion of privacy for a11y health info]

js: Will look again for paper on NEST devices phoning home over a private IPv6 subnet

jgw: WoT literature overview late June?

sh: Yes.

js: Here's a device that supports both Alexa and Google Home:

http://linuxgizmos.com/android-smart-speaker-supports-alexa-and-google-assistant/

[discussion whether VXML recommendation is sufficient for these approaches]

js: Also noting for Jason and all the upcoming joint meeting between VR and APA. May be 7 June

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