See also: IRC log
regrets?
<shawn> Here is the e-mail with open issues on the User Needs/Req doc that we need TF input on: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-low-vision-a11y-tf/2017Apr/0076.html
<shawn> (but that is secondary to working on the SCs)
<scribe> scribe: jim
4 lvtf folks out for AccessU
open item 1
Chairs set up status page
https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/WCAG_2.1_SC_status#Issue_78_-_Adapting_Text
resolution of issues to be decided by AG. and posted to status page
<scribe> New section "open issues and Surveys" on each SC
https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78
jim added section to all SC.
close item 1
open item 2
commenting on issues https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-low-vision-a11y-tf/2017Apr/0076.html
gs: a bit stuck.
Alastair - has graphics. GS is managing user-agent generated controls. May default to silver.
Icon fonts that are anchors?
SM: they are fonts and covered by WCAG SC.
gs: should do the research of the form elements etc.
Flash Issue - should we test
wayne nearing completion on font width
sr: awaiting the font research.
should add to the character spacing.
... concerned about the change of fonts. choosing fonts that
are too similar.
<laura> Adapting text user to content requirements table: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Adapting_text_user_to_content_requirements_table
explain in understanding document about why character spacing is important, and how it relates to font changes
Inline Semantics - https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/New_SC%3F_In-line_Semantics
icon fonts - https://css-tricks.com/examples/IconFont/
color is covered by F24
it is the font change that is the issue.
jim: tested by changing fonts and the font icon always remained
sr: should fit in 1.3.1 - relationship is this font is really a graphic. should be semantically marked as a graphic.
should be a technique, update the understanding document, and create failures if needed.
does the changing fonts cover sprites, background images, etc.
sr: thinks they should fit in 1.3.1.
lc: file a bug on wcag 2.0
sr: 1.3.1 is programattically determined or available in text. need to update
gs: add a new SC.
1.3.1 Info and Relationships: Information, structure, and relationships conveyed through presentation can be programmatically determined or are available in text. (Level A)
sc: if we need to file a bug in html then it will be delayed.
html semantics https://www.w3.org/TR/html/single-page.html#elements-semantics
perhaps this is a question for html editor
Jim will write html editor about where to file a bug
icons with transparency, background color is determinant of visibility of icon
alpha value is very complicated. CSS3 getting more complicated.
is it a user css issue?
is there a css thing to turn transparency off? what will that break?
sr: need to change the blending
mode. Generally
... making argument for smarter user style sheet. would need a
bit more testing
<steverep> For example: *.not(img, [role="img"]) {background-color: black; color: white; }
specifying the semantic of sprites or icon-fonts so they can be programmatically determined
https://www.w3.org/TR/css-content-3/#accessibility
https://www.w3.org/TR/css-content-3/#alt
rssagent, make minutes
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