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13:56:46 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be
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13:56:47 <trackbot> Meeting: Low Vision Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
13:56:47 <trackbot> Date: 11 May 2017
13:56:52 <allanj> chair: jim
13:57:15 <allanj> regrets?
13:57:32 <allanj> regrets: Marla, Wayne, JohnR
14:26:16 <allanj> Agenda+ SC management (surveys, issue status)
14:26:18 <allanj> Agenda+  Review SC Status
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14:58:49 <shawn> present: Jim, Shawn, ScottM
15:00:23 <shawn> Here is the e-mail with open issues on the User Needs/Req doc that we need TF input on: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-low-vision-a11y-tf/2017Apr/0076.html
15:01:35 <shawn> (but that is secondary to working on the SCs)
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15:05:58 <allanj> agenda+ no call next week 19 May
15:06:33 <shawn> present+ Glenda
15:09:54 <shawn> present+ Laura
15:10:06 <laura> present+ Laura
15:10:46 <allanj> scribe: jim
15:10:55 <allanj> zakim, open item 3
15:10:55 <Zakim> agendum 3. "no call next week 19 May" taken up [from allanj]
15:11:36 <allanj> 4 lvtf folks out for AccessU
15:12:08 <allanj> zakim, close item 3
15:12:08 <Zakim> agendum 3, no call next week 19 May, closed
15:12:09 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
15:12:09 <Zakim> 1. SC management (surveys, issue status) [from allanj]
15:12:16 <allanj> open item 1
15:13:50 <allanj> Chairs set up status page
15:13:51 <allanj> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/WCAG_2.1_SC_status#Issue_78_-_Adapting_Text
15:15:08 <allanj> resolution of issues to be decided by AG. and posted to status page
15:15:49 <allanj> New section "open issues and Surveys" on each SC
15:15:50 <allanj> https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/78
15:20:29 <allanj> jim added section to all SC.
15:20:39 <allanj> close item 1
15:21:03 <allanj> open item 2
15:21:38 <allanj> commenting on issues https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-low-vision-a11y-tf/2017Apr/0076.html
15:22:06 <shawn> present+ Erich, Steve
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15:23:02 <steverep> present+steverep
15:23:18 <erich> present+
15:27:39 <allanj> topic: Contrast controls status
15:27:51 <allanj> gs: a bit stuck.
15:28:56 <allanj> Alastair - has graphics. GS is managing user-agent generated controls. May default to silver.
15:29:21 <erich> zakim, who is on the call?
15:29:21 <Zakim> Present: Jim, Shawn, ScottM, Glenda, Laura, Erich, Steve, steverep
15:29:46 <shawn> Present: Jim, Shawn, ScottM, Glenda, Laura, Erich, steverep
15:30:26 <allanj> Icon fonts that are anchors?
15:31:31 <allanj> SM: they are fonts and covered by WCAG SC.
15:32:49 <allanj> gs: should do the research of the form elements etc.
15:32:57 <allanj> Topic: adapting text
15:33:43 <allanj> Flash Issue - should we test
15:34:31 <steverep> q+
15:34:38 <allanj> wayne nearing completion on font width
15:34:45 <allanj> ack s
15:35:25 <allanj> sr: awaiting the font research.  should add to the character spacing.
15:36:05 <allanj> ... concerned about the change of fonts. choosing fonts that are too similar.
15:36:43 <laura> Adapting text user to content requirements table: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Adapting_text_user_to_content_requirements_table
15:36:43 <allanj> explain in understanding document about why character spacing is important, and how it relates to font changes
15:39:05 <allanj> topic: Sprites, backgrounds, icon fonts.
15:39:46 <allanj> Inline Semantics - https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/New_SC%3F_In-line_Semantics
15:40:19 <allanj> icon fonts - https://css-tricks.com/examples/IconFont/
15:41:08 <allanj> color is covered by F24
15:41:50 <allanj> it is the font change that is the issue.
15:43:18 <allanj> jim: tested by changing fonts and the font icon always remained
15:45:47 <allanj> sr: should fit in 1.3.1 - relationship is this font is really a graphic. should be semantically marked as a graphic.
15:46:30 <allanj> should be a technique, update the understanding document, and create failures if needed.
15:47:30 <allanj> does the changing fonts cover sprites, background images, etc.
15:48:09 <allanj> sr: thinks they should fit in 1.3.1.
15:50:22 <allanj> lc: file a bug on wcag 2.0
15:51:41 <allanj> sr: 1.3.1 is programattically determined or available in text.  need to update
15:52:08 <allanj> gs: add a new SC.
15:52:35 <allanj> 1.3.1 Info and Relationships: Information, structure, and relationships conveyed through presentation can be programmatically determined or are available in text. (Level A)
15:53:04 <allanj> sc: if we need to file a bug in html then it will be delayed.
15:54:47 <allanj> html semantics https://www.w3.org/TR/html/single-page.html#elements-semantics
15:55:46 <allanj> perhaps this is a question for html editor
15:56:57 <allanj> Jim will write html editor about where to file a bug
15:59:04 <allanj> topic: transparancy issue
16:00:21 <allanj> icons with transparency, background color is determinant of visibility of icon
16:00:52 <allanj> alpha value is very complicated. CSS3 getting more complicated.
16:01:55 <allanj> is it a user css issue?
16:03:22 <allanj> is there a css thing to turn transparency off? what will that break?
16:04:31 <allanj> sr: need to change the blending mode. Generally
16:06:27 <allanj> ... making argument for smarter user style sheet. would need a bit more testing
16:07:53 <steverep> For example: *.not(img, [role="img"]) {background-color: black; color: white; }
16:09:24 <allanj> topic: html
16:10:04 <allanj> specifying the semantic of sprites or icon-fonts so they can be programmatically determined
16:12:07 <allanj> https://www.w3.org/TR/css-content-3/#accessibility
16:12:53 <allanj> https://www.w3.org/TR/css-content-3/#alt
16:13:45 <allanj> rssagent, make minutes
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