Automotive Working Group Teleconference

Wonsuk reviews agenda

Stiepan: why can't we discuss payments?

Ted: I haven't lined up a speaker to present Web Payments API

Wonsuk: can we give a summary of the collaboration?

https://www.w3.org/2017/Talks/tg-autopay/

Ted: I presented a few weeks ago to the Web Payments IG in Chicago our use cases and challenges I perceive for being able to adopt Web Payments readily. They agree to work with us. I will arrange a tour for this group of their spec work perhaps a remote one during our F2F. Reaching out to some other stakeholders, please make introductions as appropriate within your organizations. We will work on logistics, wiki, call schedule etc. soon, presently I have some other work demands that has been hindering that.

Wonsuk: this will be a BG Task Force?

Ted: yes, we will be launching one soon hopefully

NextGen spec

Wonsuk: for this item I have about existing Task Force
... before we create RSI TF we had 2G-VIS

Paul: they are two different things. RSI is about implementing and trying out REST for other domains

Wonsuk: this is for testing viability?

PatrickL: it is about finding a generic way for trying to handle different use cases/needs/domains (media, notifications, navigation) and describing resources
... it is a little more bound than plain HTTP requests and includes publish and subscribe mechanisms

Paul: the main thing is to do what Patrick said, try these domains with input from Genivi on LBS
... the idea is to do an early implementation
... the discussions around 2G-VIS were not really going anywhere
... this will focus on _other_ domains

Ted: VISS as discussed is going forward as it is chartered, hopefully will go to CR this month
... people are implementing it and we will get real world experience and combined with real world feasability for these other domains can make informed decisions on how to converge on signals

Paul: I will be on a flight for tomorrow's call so ask Wonsuk, Patrick, Ted, others to carry on until I join 15 or so minutes late

Wonsuk: I have seen some activity on the github repo

PatrickL: Sanjeev has been most active in making code contributions
... he seems to be having fun with it
... I know PatrickB is working on VLC instead of DBUS (due to that missing on Windows/Mac) for a real media player that can be tied to it
... I am working on socket CAN so people like Fulup/AGL can try it out

Wonsuk: what is the case with notifications?

PatrickL: we have that internal and going through internal bureaucracies to open it up. if that prooves too difficult we can do a clean room implementation
... not sure yet the timing

Paul: which repo are you working on?

PatrickL: it is experimental playspace at this point more than offical W3C automotive

(under PatrickB's repo at present)

<paul> https://github.com/iamsanjeev

PatrickL: Sanjeev has forked a copy into his repository as well

<paul> https://github.com/iamsanjeev/viwiServer

<PatrickLue> https://github.com/wzr1337/viwiServer

<paul> https://github.com/wzr1337/viwiServer

Wonsuk: thank you, this is a very interesting activity and hope to contribute as well

2G-VIS Task Force

Wonsuk: are these call continuing?

Paul: not at present. it should probably be suspended for the time being

Wonsuk: there are many calls so probably

Ted: agree with Paul, suspend the 2G-VIS calls. VISS is continuing and RSI is other domains. we will need to think about convergence on signals in the future and recharter the WG for that

Rudi: agree to suspend, let's do this proof of concept and then be able to look at things more concretely

Wonsuk: we have an LBS task force and media tuner task force. what do people think of these activities?
... no big progress for quite some time

Paul: there has been no progress which is why trying them with RSI proof of concept will help
... having something plausible will attract people to try it out

Wonsuk: that makes sense

Paul: what I am hearing for the BG is this RSI group and Payments
... that would be the two active groups
... LBS was more active in the past, Philippe Colliot and Qing An will appreciate this getting started again in RSI

Wonsuk: we should call a close to media tuning task force then
... and defer to RSI proof of concept in this area
... that makes sense to me as well

Security and Privacy Task Force

Paul: that was active for awhile
... Genivi has a corresponding Security Expert Group but ours has not met actively since our last F2F

Wonsuk: for short term goal, it would be great if we got this task force to focus on and support VISS
... this task force can have long term goals as well

PhilippeR: Genivi's Security group has looked at RVI and looking at SOTA at present, next is VISS
... you should talk with Stacey Janes (Irdeto) who leads that activity

Ted: I sit in on some of their calls. They work on building attack trees so risks are better understood
... I'm looking forward to us working with them on VISS

Wonsuk: Any other business?

Stiepan: any update on WebRTC for WebEx?

Ted: yes, is has been available for a few weeks and announced to the list. Simply use the webex link in FF or Chromium