15:33:21 RRSAgent has joined #auto 15:33:21 logging to http://www.w3.org/2017/04/11-auto-irc 15:33:23 RRSAgent, make logs public 15:33:23 Zakim has joined #auto 15:33:25 Zakim, this will be 15:33:25 I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot 15:33:26 Meeting: Automotive Working Group Teleconference 15:33:26 Date: 11 April 2017 15:33:56 AdamC has joined #auto 15:34:07 Present+ Wonsuk, Paul, Adam, Ted 15:34:18 Present+ Mike 15:34:27 Chair: Wonsuk 15:35:52 Present+ PhilippeR 15:36:02 Wonsuk reviews agenda 15:36:19 Mike: why can't we discuss payments? 15:36:43 Present+ Rudi 15:37:02 Ted: I haven't lined up a speaker to present Web Payments API 15:37:14 Wonsuk: can we give a summary of the collaboration? 15:38:07 https://www.w3.org/2017/Talks/tg-autopay/ 15:41:11 Ted@@@summary 15:41:39 Wonsuk: this will be a BG Task Force? 15:42:43 Ted: yes, we will be launching one soon hopefully 15:45:41 Topic: NextGen spec 15:46:09 Wonsuk: for this item I have about existing Task Force 15:46:25 … before we create RSI TF we had 2G-VIS 15:46:47 Paul: they are two different things. RSI is about implementing and trying out REST for other domains 15:47:10 Wonsuk: this is for testing viability? 15:48:04 PatrickL: it is about finding a generic way for trying to handle different use cases/needs/domains (media, notifications, navigation) and describing resources 15:48:23 … it is a little more bound than plain HTTP requests and includes publish and subscribe mechanisms 15:49:06 Paul: the main thing is to do what Patrick said, try these domains with input from Genivi on LBS 15:49:20 … the idea is to do an early implementation 15:50:18 … the discussions around 2G-VIS were not really going anywhere 15:52:44 … this will focus on _other_ domains 15:53:08 Ted: VISS as discussed is going forward as it is chartered, hopefully will go to CR this month 15:54:08 … people are implementing it and we will get real world experience and combined with real world feasability for these other domains can make informed decisions on how to converge on signals 15:54:53 Paul: I will be on a flight for tomorrow's call so ask Wonsuk, Patrick, Ted, others to carry on until I join 15 or so minutes late 15:55:03 Wonsuk: I have seen some activity on the github repo 15:55:29 PatrickL: Sanjeev has been most active in making code contributions 15:55:35 … he seems to be having fun with it 15:56:27 … I know PatrickB is working on VLC instead of DBUS (due to that missing on Windows/Mac) for a real media player that can be tied to it 15:57:02 … I am working on socket CAN so people like Fulup/AGL can try it out 15:57:17 Wonsuk: what is the case with notifications? 15:58:00 PatrickL: we have that internal and going through internal bureaucracies to open it up. if that prooves too difficult we can do a clean room implementation 15:58:09 … not sure yet the timing 16:00:14 paul has joined #auto 16:00:27 Paul: which repo are you working on? 16:00:58 PatrickL: it is experimental playspace at this point more than offical W3C automotive 16:01:23 (under PatrickB's repo at present) 16:02:15 https://github.com/iamsanjeev 16:02:25 PatrickLue has joined #auto 16:02:35 PatrickL: Sanjeev has forked a copy into his repository as well 16:02:38 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/11-auto-minutes.html ted 16:02:40 https://github.com/iamsanjeev/viwiServer 16:03:26 https://github.com/wzr1337/viwiServer 16:03:36 https://github.com/wzr1337/viwiServer 16:05:11 Wonsuk: thank you, this is a very interesting activity and hope to contribute as well 16:05:35 Topic: 2G-VIS Task Force 16:05:48 Wonsuk: are these call continuing? 16:06:13 Paul: not at present. it should probably be suspended for the time being 16:06:20 Wonsuk: there are many calls so probably 16:09:38 Ted: agree with Paul, suspend the 2G-VIS calls. VISS is continuing and RSI is other domains. we will need to think about convergence on signals in the future and recharter the WG for that 16:10:14 Rudi: agree to suspend, let's do this proof of concept and then be able to look at things more concretely 16:10:53 Wonsuk: we have an LBS task force and media tuner task force. what do people think of these activities? 16:11:00 … no big progress for quite some time 16:11:25 Paul: there has been no progress which is why trying them with RSI proof of concept will help 16:11:41 … having something plausible will attract people to try it out 16:11:55 Wonsuk: that makes sense 16:12:07 Paul: what I am hearing for the BG is this RSI group and Payments 16:12:18 … that would be the two active groups 16:12:53 … LBS was more active in the past, Philippe Colliot and Qing An will appreciate this getting started again in RSI 16:13:20 Wonsuk: we should call a close to media tuning task force then 16:14:44 … and defer to RSI proof of concept in this area 16:15:07 … that makes sense to me as well 16:15:12 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/11-auto-minutes.html ted 16:15:25 Topic: Security and Privacy Task Force 16:15:31 Paul: that was active for awhile 16:16:10 … Genivi has a corresponding Security Expert Group but ours has not met actively since our last F2F 16:16:40 Wonsuk: for short term goal, it would be great if we got this task force to focus on and support VISS 16:16:57 … this task force can have long term goals as well 16:18:21 PhilippeR: Genivi's Security group has looked at RVI and looking at SOTA at present, next is VISS 16:18:46 … you should talk with Stacey Janes (Irdeto) who leads that activity 16:19:48 Ted: I sit in on some of their calls. They work on building attack trees so risks are better understood 16:20:02 … I'm looking forward to us working with them on VISS 16:20:14 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/11-auto-minutes.html ted 16:20:38 Wonsuk: Any other business? 16:25:12 Present+ Stephan 16:25:15 Present- Mike 16:25:26 Stephan: any update on WebRTC for WebEx? 16:25:54 Ted: yes, is has been available for a few weeks and announced to the list. Simply use the webex link in FF or Chromium 16:25:55 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/11-auto-minutes.html ted 16:26:10 leaving. As of this point the attendees have been Wonsuk, Paul, Adam, Ted, Mike, PhilippeR, Rudi, Stephan 16:26:10 Zakim has left #auto 16:26:11 I see no action items