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<scribe> agenda: this
Triage core-aam bugzillas: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?component=Core%20AAM&product=ARIA
<scribe> scribenick: clown
JS: I haven't heard from him in a couple of weeks.
RS: He said he had some thing happen (in a good way).
JS: Yes, but he will get to
it.
... Is it time for you to ping him again?
RS: Okay, I can do it.
... <drafts email message>
JS: Joanie away this week; will ask again next week.
regrets Joanmarie_Diggs
regrets Bryan_Garaventa
JS: Looked these over and most are in a holding pattern.
RS: Don't see Bogdan's
action.
... Let's make one for house keeping.
JS: Okay.
ISSUE0674?
ISSUE-674?
<trackbot> ISSUE-674 -- Current references to Name and description computation must refer to host languages -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/674
RS and JS: look over the core-aam for host language references to see if issue 674 is addressed.
https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/core-aam/core-aam.html#mapping_additional_nd
JS: the above url is specifically for naming and description
RS: I think it is addressed.
Let's close the issue.
... I'll make a note in the issue, and close it.
ISSUE-735?
<trackbot> ISSUE-735 -- should rowgroup be mapped as a group? -- raised
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/735
RS: Edge makes rowgroup
landmark-y? I don't think that's right.
... I think the task force has addressed this after many
discussions.
... I think we should close.
... I'll make a comment in the issue.
JS: Agreed.
<richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/products/23
JS: Now, this list of
issues/actions represent stuff that we are just waiting for to
be finished.
... So, holding pattern for them.
<richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/products/26
ISSUE-542?
<trackbot> ISSUE-542 -- Text Alt Comp section on CSS generated content does not allow for proper CSS content fallback -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/542
JS: This is a good idea, but does
not work in any browser yet.
... So, if we put it in accname-aam, it will fail in terms of
testing.
RS: This is not going to fly in
the 1.1 time frame
... And, we need to coordinate with CSS group.
JS: yes.
RS: So, let's move this to 1.2,
and somehow engage the CSS group.
... Let me add a comment and move the issue.
issue-609?
<trackbot> issue-609 -- Text Alt Comp section does not explicitly disallow empty strings as a valid label -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/609
RS: Empty strings are technically valid?
JS: I don't think so.
RS: I think this is a test tool
issue.
... why is the author put in an empty text string.
... that's an error.
... let me comment on the issue, and let's close it.
JS: The current wording in the
accname-aam has changed since this issue.
... and it's okay.
... yes, let's close it.
issue-626?
<trackbot> issue-626 -- text alt computation statements on recursion are unclear -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/626
JS: the text is clearer now that you follow only one aria-labelledby:
"if computing a name ,… and the current node is not already part of an aria-labelledby traversal,
JS: let's close it.
RS: I'll add a comment. Got a link?
https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/accname-aam/accname-aam.html#step2B
issue-751?
<trackbot> issue-751 -- Step 2H: tooltip attribute -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/751
JS: Those are good questions that Cynthia asks. I don't know the answer.
RS: Unfortunately, there is no
normative requirment about tooltips.
... They are not required to render a tooltip.
JS: But, that's not what she is asking.
RS: Okay, let me put it this way. It's not defined.
JS: I think it's the host
language's problem to define the notion of tooltip
... So, it's not an accname problem.
RS: Yes.
ISSUE-1021
<trackbot> ISSUE-1021 -- Label Relationship is inconsistent on Mac and Linux - Should we expose? -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/1021
RS: <Reads Joanie's notes in
the issue>
... And, Joseph agreed with Joanie's comment.
JS: Leave this one open in order to consider it further.
ISSUE-1044?
<trackbot> ISSUE-1044 -- Concatenate ARIA Description and ARIA error message -- open
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/1044
RS: I opened this on behalf of
James Teh
... He wanted to concatenate the aria description with the
error message text
... But, we decided to not do this.
... This has been dealt with; closing.
issue-750?
<trackbot> issue-750 -- Step 2.F.iii.c Define when to append with and without a space -- pending review
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/750
RS: I think Cynthia makes a valid point here.
JS: I remember adding an
editorial note about it, but may have been a different
step.
... I'm still trying to figure out the principle here (step 2F
iii)
https://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/accname-aam/accname-aam.html#step2F.iii.c
<input type="checkbox"> Make this the <em>top</em>most element</label>
JS: there should be no space between "top" and "most".
"Make this the topmost element"
JS: I see, no space would ever
happne. I'll ditch the editors' note.
... leave the issue open, and I will take care of it.
... That's it for today — at the hour.
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