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<Lisa_Seeman> trackbot, start meeting
<Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this
<Lisa_Seeman> issues: https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3ACOGA
<AndyHeath> what is the meeting room password for webex please?
<AndyHeath> what is the meeting room password please ?
<Lisa_Seeman> sent to andy
<Pietro> I'm not ready to scribe
<Lisa_Seeman> scribe: kirkwood
<Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/March14SCReviews/
<Lisa_Seeman> please fill it in
LS: WCAG survey that is important
link above
... review current action items to see where we are
<Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/open
LS: finding out the process from
new wording and comments
... where does the new wording go WG that is published and the
new wording for the SC goes into the github subdirectory as per
instructions
... ther a branshes on the github for each success criteria
current working is meant to go there
... don’t make a new pull reuest keep the working and the
discussion supposed to be in original issue
... setting it up if we run into problems we can ask Andrew
Josh or Michael to assist
... understanding where to stup links, we will press latest
wording to edit, that’s where they are meant to be. We need to
know where they are sitting in the github
... two questions, where are we menat to put new working
... second questikon how are we supposed to track it
... where do they sit, where do we putit. In the github therre
is a bransh for wach separte success criteria which has a
subdirectory where latest text is
... getting that setup, there will be a link at the top of the
SC
<Lisa_Seeman> https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues/2
LS: good news is there is a link
to it for example issue 2
... this is an example of what it looks like
... click on first one goes to a lttle file with text of SC. If
you look at the URL its in rawgit
... if you press on the SC for editing and can see the text for
editing. If you need to change the wording you need to change
it in URL
... if you are ready to change the SC and editing the HTML is
hard feel free to ask Josh or myself lisa
... you can either view or edit
... that is where the change content will sit
... don’t feel bad about asking for help
... next to address is, what is the process for setting up
<Lisa_Seeman> instuctions to set it up https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/wiki/Tending-to-SC-Proposals
LS: how to set it up instructions
each SC manager should follow these to setup links at top of page. Don’t worry to much
SC: if you are stuck and hard to follow, Josh Andrew and Michael have offered to assist do it for you
LS: you are supposed to know where it is as a SC manager
Mike: I must admeit looking at example and instructions not sure betweeen SC for viewing and SC for editing, unsure what these links are pointing to
LS: sc for viewing is and are
that cant edit
... if yo need to edit acess c
... change of content is adefinted term
Mike: confused but now
understand
... name of defintion and the SC are the same so it was
confusing to me
... so i have it clear the links piint to the revise3d
versions
LS: to setup these links if you
get stuck ask Andrew Josh or Michael don’t feel bad about
it
... error in instructions that should hopefully be fixed
... how are we meant to track the feedback? is the next
question
... someon is supposed do go through all the feedback, should
crop up as a reference
... open new issues but should be references and the links are
making sense
Jan: when somebody makes a comment the issues will be teracked into the comment stream on the SC. But yes I und3erstaned the links
LS: if people have tried if nowhere clse ask, EA has done it
clse/just
LS: if you get stuck send to
Andrew Josh or Michael
... next, how are we tracking comments
... comments in issue makes difficult to manage
... if others are finding cant follow comment stream we should
report that
... think people in WCAG just going to put comments in issue
itself
... and in the survey itself
... opeple outsede WAG they are also giving feedback and there
they are adding addtional issues
... by opening a ne3w issue thay are menat to reference a SC,
it will crop up as a reference in the main SC
... you can click on those and you can see the comments. Scroll
to the bottom and you go up like four comeents this was
referenced from
... those are refenences and they are actually clickable and
you can go to place that references it
... where we have feedback do we put it in the main one or in
the issue that references it
... hoping Michael could answer that
... does that make sense
yes
Michael: yes
LS: its very time consuming often
need extra phone calls and setting up calls. I would like to
setup a time for an extra call, a regular time
... maybe Tuesday after WCAG call
<Jan> +1 to extra meeting an hour after the WCAG call
<Lisa_Seeman> 1.30 east cost
fine for me
<Pietro> +1 after WCAG call
LS: it would generally managable not ideal
<Jim_S> I can try but can't guarentee attendance
LS/Michael
Michael: half hour break
LS: we could do an hour before
<Jan> +1 to half-hour break between AG meeting and extra COGA call
<Jim_S> +1 to 30 minute break
LS: we’ll set with a time an hour
affter WCAG call
... so its a set time don’t need to do doodle for a sub topic,
can use for subgroups or other topics
Andy: can’t make that time
<Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/March14SCReviews/
LS: if there are two people want this that’s going to be extremely negative, even if you want it in with changes, its important to respond to survy
Andy: what wanted to bring to
attention was, SE35 which began rather strangely as a WCAG
success criteria
... POUR described in terms of user needs, since that time
moved from suecial has moved to ISO 35
... i’;m an editor of that standard
... I am in two groups doing very simalar stuff but doing the
same thing relatively
... diffenet structures and different political
constraings
... given doing same stuff differently braing attention of each
groups work to each other
... the system in ISO goes to antional bodies that participate
its with them for three months. When I look at the stuff that
you are doing. It just hits you in the fgace that ists the same
stuff. There should be some mapping between user needs. not
propo9sing any big political action.
... any comments in the ISO work would be exteremely
useful
... ther are tow ways that this could be done
... you can participate through national bocies in country not
sure about US status they used to participate
Any: Janina is the WCAG liason and has acccess the es documents and is part of SC35 but is not anymore a liason
Any/Andy
Andy: maybe we can find away ,
happy to receive UK comments and only can be use
... liason bodies can comment but don’t get a vote
Ancy: we tried to describe each need, it would be incredibly useful to review work
<AndyHeath> 29138-1
<AndyHeath> Information technology — User interface accessibility — Part 1: User accessibility needs
<Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html
list of user need
Andy: amount of work to tie
together would be difficult
... If its user needs, this vote is due by May 21
<AndyHeath> andyheath@axelafa.com
LA: does anyone need a call? sucessful with authentification last week
LA/LS
LS: Tuesday extra call for COGA
will be addressing more concerns in wording
... does anyone object to changing in two weeks due to
passover?
... I’ll coordinate with Michael and Janina if no striong
feelings, speak to next week
<MichaelC> https://rawgit.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/master/semantics.html
<Lisa_Seeman> lost audio
<Lisa_Seeman> trying to rejion
<MichaelC> I can have it call you, #?
<MichaelC> https://rawgit.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/master/semantics.html#prop_def
<MichaelC> https://rawgit.com/w3c/personalization-semantics/master/semantics.html#semantic_prop_taxonomy
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