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Cognitive Accessibility Task Force Teleconference

20 Mar 2017

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Attendees

Present
JohnRochford, Jim_S, kirkwood, jan, Susann_Keohane, Pietro, Thaddeus
Regrets
Steve_Lee, Mary_Jo_Mueller, Mary_Jo_Mueller, EA_Draffan, Michael_Pluke
Chair
SV_MEETING_CHAIR
Scribe
JohnRochford

Contents


<Lisa_Seeman> trackbot, start meeting

<Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this

<Lisa_Seeman> and https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EVnmFO6l8nAdBs5UiasJnZz3Ri_diKcoz8peoPWTm4Q/edit?usp=sharing

<Lisa_Seeman> scribe: JohnRochford

updates on personlization and actions on critical control accessible authetification and personlizations

Lisa: Mike meant to do a reword on accessible authentication
... Mike thinks there is a hell of a lot of work needed on it.

Jim: Neither I nor Neil are clear on how process works for new wording.

<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: lisa to find out what the process is for new wording, and for responcence to comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/20-coga-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-205 - Find out what the process is for new wording, and for responcence to comments [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2017-03-27].

Jim: Where do we update wording that was not in the first public working draft?

<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: lisa clarify were does new wording for sc in the current working draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/20-coga-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-206 - Clarify were does new wording for sc in the current working draft [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2017-03-27].

<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: lisa clarify how we track comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/20-coga-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-207 - Clarify how we track comments [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2017-03-27].

Lisa: Should we ask the group about how much technology support they are comfortable with?
... Does WCAG want us to meet a higher bar than a technology-specific one?

<Thaddeus> +Present Thaddeus

Lisa: Does anyone have an opinion onn how we should go with personalization?
... We could have a weekly call for those interested in personalization. Would anyone be interested in joining on a regular basis?

Jim, Jan, kirkwood all expressed in joining

expressed interest

Jim_S: I could use a good grounding in personalization.

Lisa: Anyone, not just WCAG or COGA people, could join the personalization discussion(s).

<kirkwood> Yes

Jan: At proposed time for personalization call, I can make it work every other week.

<Lisa_Seeman> ACTION: lisa set time 10 easten on monday [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/20-coga-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-208 - Set time 10 easten on monday [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2017-03-27].

Lisa: I'm not sure if I should open up conversation about putting the burden on authors for personalization.
... That leaves us with the mess we have with accessible authentication.
... Mike is suggesting a radical scaling back. He's worried we can't rely upon the new specification by the W3C.
... I think this needs a call with everyone who is interested.

Thaddeus: I am in security for a living, so I am interested in accessible authentication.

<Jim_S> I'll ask Neil Milliken about being involved as this is something he is interested in.

Lisa: At the very least, Mike, Thaddeus, John Rochford, and I should be on that call.

Jan: I am interested too.

Lisa: I'm nervous about being stuck on 3 success criteria for so long when we have less than a year.

<Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/status.html

Lisa: Which do we think is the next urgent SC to address next?

<Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/status.html

Thaddeus: Will the SC we are working on get into 2.1?

Lisa: Yes.
... Which SC supports voice-menu systems?

Thaddeus: Search might be an important one.

Lisa: What about feedback or task completion?
... Which would we like to focus on next?
... Let's move forward with task completion and feedback.
... Search does not have a SC manager. We had it tagged as medium importance.
... The first think we need to do for feedback is get a SC manager.
... I will reach out to the list to find one.

process changes

Lisa: Let's discuss getting out the draft for feedback.

<Lisa_Seeman> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NBjIZgCRNRXbdC1xtrYu9vMwgEEpGDSLDZ_5IcpN0zw/edit?usp=sharing

Lisa: If anyone has criticism of this, the time to share it is now. There are only 10 days left.

Lisa to Jan: I think we should delete all commments because the are confusing to people.

Jan: okay

they, not the

<Thaddeus> This document is great. Great job!

<Thaddeus> was looking earlier this morning

Lisa to Pietro: Are you able to send that document out?

<Lisa_Seeman> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EVnmFO6l8nAdBs5UiasJnZz3Ri_diKcoz8peoPWTm4Q/edit?usp=sharing

<Lisa_Seeman> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NBjIZgCRNRXbdC1xtrYu9vMwgEEpGDSLDZ_5IcpN0zw/edit

Lisa: The document is the summary of WCAG 2.1 for cognitive. Then, we made a draft email at the link I am about to share.

<Lisa_Seeman> craft email is at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EVnmFO6l8nAdBs5UiasJnZz3Ri_diKcoz8peoPWTm4Q/edit?usp=sharing

Lisa: Are you ready to send to European disability agencies?
... and to autism-specific angencies?

Pietro: March is a difficult month because people are very busy.
... I did send out that email.

Lisa to All: Please send it out to as many people as possible so we can get comments.

getting feedback on wcag 2.1 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NBjIZgCRNRXbdC1xtrYu9vMwgEEpGDSLDZ_5IcpN0zw/edit?usp=sharing

Accessible authentication, personlization , and clear controls -status: https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/status.html,

John Rochford: I thought Josh had shut down Manageable Blocks.

Michael C: No, that's not what Josh meant.

Lisa: Agreed, because it is in the first public working draft.
... Do we prefer to do more in parallel, or keep it at 3 at a time?

Thaddeus: I prefer 3 at a time.

+1 to 3 at a time

<Jim_S> +1 to 3 at a time

<Thaddeus> Thank you

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: lisa clarify how we track comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/20-coga-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: lisa clarify were does new wording for sc in the current working draft [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/20-coga-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: lisa set time 10 easten on monday [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/20-coga-minutes.html#action04]
[NEW] ACTION: lisa to find out what the process is for new wording, and for responcence to comments [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/20-coga-minutes.html#action01]
 

Summary of Resolutions

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