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15:42:45 <trackbot> Meeting: Cognitive Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
15:42:45 <trackbot> Date: 20 March 2017
15:42:45 <Zakim> ok, trackbot
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15:45:12 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this
15:45:14 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ updates on personlization and actions on critical control accessible authetification and personlizations
15:45:15 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ process changes
15:45:17 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ getting feedback on wcag 2.1 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NBjIZgCRNRXbdC1xtrYu9vMwgEEpGDSLDZ_5IcpN0zw/edit?usp=sharing
15:45:18 <Lisa_Seeman> and https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EVnmFO6l8nAdBs5UiasJnZz3Ri_diKcoz8peoPWTm4Q/edit?usp=sharing
15:45:20 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+  Accessible authentication, personlization , and clear controls -status: https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/status.html,
15:45:21 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ next high priority SC's
15:45:23 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ be done
15:47:20 <Lisa_Seeman> regrets: Steve Lee, Mary Jo Mueller, Mary Jo Mueller, EA Draffan, Michael Pluke
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16:04:21 <Lisa_Seeman> scribe: JohnRochford
16:05:09 <Lisa_Seeman> Zakim, next item
16:05:09 <Zakim> agendum 1. "updates on personlization and actions on critical control accessible authetification and personlizations" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
16:05:10 <JohnRochford> present+ JohnRochford
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16:07:17 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Mike meant to do a reword on accessible authentication
16:07:36 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Mike thinks there is a hell of a lot of work needed on it.
16:09:14 <JohnRochford> Jim: Neither I nor Neil are clear on how process works for new wording.
16:09:19 <Lisa_Seeman> action: lisa to find out what the process is for new wording, and for responcence to comments
16:09:21 <trackbot> Created ACTION-205 - Find out what the process is for new wording, and for responcence to comments [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2017-03-27].
16:10:18 <JohnRochford> Jim: Where do we update wording that was not in the first public working draft?
16:10:32 <Lisa_Seeman> action: lisa clarify were does new wording for sc in the current working draft
16:10:32 <trackbot> Created ACTION-206 - Clarify were does new wording for sc in the current working draft [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2017-03-27].
16:11:15 <Lisa_Seeman> action: lisa clarify how we track comments
16:11:19 <trackbot> Created ACTION-207 - Clarify how we track comments [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2017-03-27].
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16:13:18 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Should we ask the group about how much technology support they are comfortable with?
16:13:52 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Does WCAG want us to meet a higher bar than a technology-specific one?
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16:14:44 <Pietro> Present+ Pietro
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16:15:23 <Thaddeus> +Present Thaddeus
16:15:34 <JohnRochford> present+ Thaddeus
16:15:56 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:16:04 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Does anyone have an opinion onn how we should go with personalization?
16:17:21 <JohnRochford> Lisa: We could have a weekly call for those interested in personalization. Would anyone be interested in joining on a regular basis?
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16:17:48 <JohnRochford> Jim, Jan, kirkwood all expressed in joining
16:17:58 <JohnRochford> expressed interest
16:18:34 <JohnRochford> Jim_S: I could use a good grounding in personalization.
16:20:01 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Anyone, not just WCAG or COGA people, could join the personalization discussion(s).
16:20:37 <kirkwood> Yes
16:22:12 <JohnRochford> Jan: At proposed time for personalization call, I can make it work every other week.
16:22:20 <Lisa_Seeman> action: lisa set time 10 easten on monday
16:22:23 <trackbot> Created ACTION-208 - Set time 10 easten on monday [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2017-03-27].
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16:24:00 <Lisa_Seeman> Q?
16:24:06 <JohnRochford> Lisa: I'm not sure if I should open up conversation about putting the burden on authors for personalization.
16:24:45 <JohnRochford> Lisa: That leaves us with the mess we have with accessible authentication.
16:25:32 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Mike is suggesting a radical scaling back. He's worried we can't rely upon the new specification by the W3C.
16:25:54 <JohnRochford> Lisa: I think this needs a call with everyone who is interested.
16:27:14 <JohnRochford> Thaddeus: I am in security for a living, so I am interested in accessible authentication.
16:27:28 <Jim_S> I'll ask Neil Milliken about being involved as this is something he is interested in.
16:28:03 <JohnRochford> Lisa: At the very least, Mike, Thaddeus, John Rochford, and I should be on that call.
16:28:11 <JohnRochford> Jan: I am interested too.
16:29:32 <JohnRochford> Lisa: I'm nervous about being stuck on 3 success criteria for so long when we have less than a year.
16:29:39 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/status.html
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16:30:11 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Which do we think is the next urgent SC to address next?
16:32:01 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/status.html
16:32:32 <JohnRochford> Thaddeus: Will the SC we are working on get into 2.1?
16:32:43 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Yes.
16:33:24 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Which SC supports voice-menu systems?
16:34:55 <JohnRochford> Thaddeus: Search might be an important one.
16:35:08 <JohnRochford> Lisa: What about feedback or task completion?
16:35:35 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Which would we like to focus on next?
16:36:01 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Let's move forward with task completion and feedback.
16:36:33 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Search does not have a SC manager. We had it tagged as medium importance.
16:37:00 <JohnRochford> Lisa: The first think we need to do for feedback is get a SC manager.
16:37:16 <JohnRochford> Lisa: I will reach out to the list to find one.
16:37:57 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:37:57 <Zakim> agendum 2. "process changes" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
16:38:38 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Let's discuss getting out the draft for feedback.
16:38:53 <Lisa_Seeman> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NBjIZgCRNRXbdC1xtrYu9vMwgEEpGDSLDZ_5IcpN0zw/edit?usp=sharing
16:39:36 <JohnRochford> Lisa: If anyone has criticism of this, the time to share it is now. There are only 10 days left.
16:41:06 <JohnRochford> Lisa to Jan: I think we should delete all commments because the are confusing to people.
16:41:10 <JohnRochford> Jan: okay
16:41:22 <JohnRochford> they, not the
16:41:30 <Thaddeus> This document is great. Great job!
16:41:44 <Thaddeus> was looking earlier this morning
16:43:05 <JohnRochford> Lisa to Pietro: Are you able to send that document out?
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16:43:18 <Lisa_Seeman> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EVnmFO6l8nAdBs5UiasJnZz3Ri_diKcoz8peoPWTm4Q/edit?usp=sharing
16:44:23 <Lisa_Seeman> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NBjIZgCRNRXbdC1xtrYu9vMwgEEpGDSLDZ_5IcpN0zw/edit
16:44:47 <JohnRochford> Lisa: The document is the summary of WCAG 2.1 for cognitive. Then, we made a draft email at the link I am about to share.
16:44:48 <Lisa_Seeman> craft email is at: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EVnmFO6l8nAdBs5UiasJnZz3Ri_diKcoz8peoPWTm4Q/edit?usp=sharing
16:45:35 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Are you ready to send to European disability agencies?
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16:46:04 <JohnRochford> Lisa: and to autism-specific angencies?
16:46:38 <JohnRochford> Pietro: March is a difficult month because people are very busy.
16:47:17 <JohnRochford> Pietro: I did send out that email.
16:51:05 <JohnRochford> Lisa to All: Please send it out to as many people as possible so we can get comments.
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16:51:09 <Zakim> agendum 3. "getting feedback on wcag 2.1 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NBjIZgCRNRXbdC1xtrYu9vMwgEEpGDSLDZ_5IcpN0zw/edit?usp=sharing" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
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16:52:18 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:52:18 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Accessible authentication, personlization , and clear controls -status: https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/status.html," taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
16:52:33 <JohnRochford> John Rochford: I thought Josh had shut down Manageable Blocks.
16:52:34 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:52:34 <Zakim> agendum 4 was just opened, Lisa_Seeman
16:52:52 <JohnRochford> Michael C: No, that's not what Josh meant.
16:53:12 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Agreed, because it is in the first public working draft.
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16:53:42 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Do we prefer to do more in parallel, or keep it at 3 at a time?
16:54:25 <JohnRochford> Thaddeus: I prefer 3 at a time.
16:54:46 <JohnRochford> +1 to 3 at a time
16:56:12 <Jim_S> +1 to 3 at a time
16:58:44 <Thaddeus> Thank you
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