Internationalization Working Group Teleconference -- 02 Feb 2017

Agenda

Action Items

https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open

action-581?

<trackbot> action-581 -- Richard Ishida to Send vertical article for wide review after getting final feedback and fixing the issue styling -- due 2017-01-26 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/581

action-582?

<trackbot> action-582 -- Richard Ishida to Sort out justification text on typography document -- due 2017-01-26 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/582

close action-582

<trackbot> Closed action-582.

action-584?

<trackbot> action-584 -- Richard Ishida to Send note to www-international announcing switching to github digests and set up the digests -- due 2017-02-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/584

close action-584

<trackbot> Closed action-584.

richard: how are we liking it?

addison: liking a lot

jck: +1

richard: option of also weekly, add that too?
... would go tuesdays at 6PM UTC...

<scribe> ACTION: richard: set up weekly digest of github in advance of the teleconference to send to the public-i18n-core list [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/02/02-i18n-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-587 - Set up weekly digest of github in advance of the teleconference to send to the public-i18n-core list [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-02-09].

action-585?

<trackbot> action-585 -- Richard Ishida to Move the justification materials to separate article and point to it from typography document -- due 2017-02-02 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/585

close action-585

<trackbot> Closed action-585.

Info Share

richard: member of Arabic Layout TF raised issue against chrome
... for counter styles
... you could star that issue to support it getting fixed

<r12a> https://t.co/jIOiYtVNFY

richard: put together tests
... counter styles tests

<r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/tests/repo/results/counter-styles

richard: previous tests just did the predefined list
... needed tests for customized styles
... now have some at above link
... only FF supports at the moment :-(

addison: ticket other browsers?

<scribe> ACTION: addison: file additional tickets for support of predefined counter styles against remaining browsers [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/02/02-i18n-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-588 - File additional tickets for support of predefined counter styles against remaining browsers [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-02-09].

RADAR and Active Work Review

https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1

TTML2

richard: focusing on ruby stuff just now

http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/

richard: hebrew tf, working on charter
... process bump, working through
... making github repo, etc.
... by mid next week have a tf in place

publication of Counter Styles note

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017Feb/0002.html

http://w3c.github.io/predefined-counter-styles/

richard: added a couple of arabic styles

<r12a> https://github.com/w3c/predefined-counter-styles/commits/gh-pages

richard: and pointed to christof päper's site

<scribe> ... closed most issues

addison: doing this the right way? should we externalize the styles?

richard: can publish as often as we like as a Note

najib: about counter style

<najib> Would suggest that you also add The WP-hijai (in the table) as "Arabic-alphabetic" countee-style.

richard: would like to have arabic-tf discuss a little
... I'm unclear if hijai is order vs. a counter style?
... example is swedish and french use of alpha counters vs. their dictionary order

najib: taught in school, okay, will look into if used in lists

move to publish as a Note

<David> +1

<r12a> +1

<Klensin> +1

<najib> +1

so resolved

addison: any text in SOTD about plans to update regularly

richard: no can put some

Proposal to move International Text Layout and Typography Index to FPWD

<r12a> http://w3c.github.io/typography/

richard: key changes, two sets
... took out fantasai's text about justifiation in several scripts
... put in separate article
... some email since

<r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/typography/justification.en

richard: don't want to publish her's for wide review until approved
... longer, added things to it
... think we shouldnt wait
... publish index doc as fpwd
... second change
... had some links. two docs
... one is a checklist
... and this doc
... links to issues rather than to topics
... links in checklist pointing to request for info, such as "how does korean do ine break"
... worried about it
... lists of issues grow/shrink all the time
... so made standard links under issues

<r12a> http://w3c.github.io/typography/#text_decoration

richard: links points to github issues lists
... this way requests for information or requests for impl can grow and shrink

that's mighty clever

move to publish as FPWD

<najib> +1

<r12a> +1

<David> +1

<Klensin> +1

so resolved

<scribe> ACTION: richard: publish typography index as FPWD [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/02/02-i18n-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-589 - Publish typography index as fpwd [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-02-09].

Issues to close

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017Jan/0024.html

richard: significant rewrite of uievents
... they made a strong effort to address our comments
... changes to U+ notation
... made a signfiicant difference

https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/343

<scribe> ACTION: addison: follow up on html issue 343 wording and reopen if necessary [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/02/02-i18n-minutes.html#action04]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-590 - Follow up on html issue 343 wording and reopen if necessary [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-02-09].

<scribe> ACTION: richard: re-check letter spacing in css-text issues for closure [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/02/02-i18n-minutes.html#action05]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-591 - Re-check letter spacing in css-text issues for closure [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-02-09].

richard: closed the uievents one