See also: IRC log
<kaz> scribenick: McCool
todo: add fernando serena (WoT ontology work) to agenda queue
Fernando Serena <fserena@fi.upm.es>
Darko can talk about ontology work
also, McCool would like to announce time/date for OCF liaison meeting... Kaz to provide
<mkovatsc> Updated https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_WebConf#Agenda_of_next_WoT_IG_WebConf:_18_January_2017
<DarkoAnicic> http://iot.linkeddata.es/def/wot/index-en.html
Darko: ontology explanation...
has been in contact with them, WoT ontology developed
formalize in RDF the model behind TD
with some additions for "horizontal layer"
Darko's point of view: they are aware of iot.schema.org, but didn't build on it...
better for Fernando to present, Darko to arrange
Yongjing: developed under a european research project?
Darko: yes, under an EU project, Vicinity
project also have three domains: want to extend to mobility, smart homes
<yongjing> Darko: and they also consider SAREF
OCF mtg Tuesday 8am Eastern Time, 2pm Europe
<kaz> [ webex coordinate to be sent to the member list later ]
McCool: goal, want to be able to send it off...
McCool to make sure OCF TF charter is in github
<kaz> kaz: can add the webex info to the telco wiki as well: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_WebConf#WebConf_Information
Kaz to make a wiki entry for meeting info...
F2F logistics... registration looks good now
also, today is deadline to register for hotel...
<kaz> registration results
800.345.1554 with code 1702INTELC as an alternative
is breakfast included? seems to be via booking .com
how do we handle registrations for people who just want to attend the open day?
A: ask people to register, but select "other" and note will only be coming to "open day" on Jan 6
Dave_Raggett: observers?
OK, with chairs
<inserted> kaz: SAP is a W3C Member and agree great to have them there if it's OK by the Chairs.
Dave: first step to recruit to group; also good to have SAP there
also oneM2M community members may attend, at least on open day
there is no restriction to people in Bay Area; everyone is welcome
registration: badges... should we print in advance? No, but can have people write out own badges...
McCool: will check with Cindy to see if she can organize badges
Note again: everyone who attends should register
<scribe> ACTION: Kaz to add question about affiliation to registration questionnaire [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/01/18-wot-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-86 - Add question about affiliation to registration questionnaire [on Kazuyuki Ashimura - due 2017-01-25].
<scribe> ACTION: McCool to add OCF liaison charter to github as a pull request [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/01/18-wot-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-87 - Add ocf liaison charter to github as a pull request [on Michael McCool - due 2017-01-25].
<scribe> ACTION: McCool to ask Cindy and/or Ryan to look into a suitable hotel for a social dinner on Monday, aim for 2/3 of attendees [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/01/18-wot-minutes.html#action03]
<trackbot> Error finding 'ask'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/track/users>.
<scribe> ACTION: McCool to ask Cindy if she can help organize badges [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/01/18-wot-minutes.html#action05]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-89 - Ask cindy if she can help organize badges [on Michael McCool - due 2017-01-25].
any updates on who we can invite to open day?
updates from google (physical web, android, brillo/android things), ARM, etc.
how many? 4-5 is ok, as long as they make sense
Michael Koster to also do some outreach
others: Apple, Amazon
<scribe> ACTION: McCool to look into Amazon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/01/18-wot-minutes.html#action06]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-90 - Look into amazon [on Michael McCool - due 2017-01-25].
<scribe> ACTION: Dave to also look into Amazon [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/01/18-wot-minutes.html#action07]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-91 - Also look into amazon [on Dave Raggett - due 2017-01-25].
<dsr> I would like to ping Dan Brickley (schema.org) and Matt McNeil (Google cloud platform), and to loop tjhis through Max Senges and Matthias.
<dsr> I am also interested in inviting Apple and Amazon, but lack contacts in Amazon.
Note: if someone else contacts someone at Google, please ask them to coordinate with Max Senges
<dsr> For Apple, we could talk with their AC Rep
<scribe> ACTION: Dave to look through list of W3C members [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/01/18-wot-minutes.html#action08]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-92 - Look through list of w3c members [on Dave Raggett - due 2017-01-25].
<kaz> WoT outreach targets (Member-only)
<kaz> Automotive outreach targets (Member-only)
<scribe> ACTION: McCool to talk to some people from OpenFog [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/01/18-wot-minutes.html#action09]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-93 - Talk to some people from openfog [on Michael McCool - due 2017-01-25].
Dave: IIC
<scribe> ACTION: Dave to talk to IIC and OPC [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/01/18-wot-minutes.html#action10]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-94 - Talk to iic and opc [on Dave Raggett - due 2017-01-25].
mattias: JSON-LD
JSON Schema - good time to engage
Michael Koster: Gerant Liu, JSON Schema, new charter
going beyond just validation
can refer to github
<kaz> TD minutes
<mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_February_2017,_USA,_Santa_Clara#Participation
plugfest: details missing
<mjkoster> https://github.com/json-schema-org/json-schema-spec
concrete scenarios...
<kaz> Scenario table from the Beijing f2f: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_July_2016,_China,_Beijing#Scenario
<mkovatsc> Test list from Beijing: https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2016-beijing/plugfest-test-cases-beijing-2016.md
please fill out table on PlugFest wiki page...
<scribe> ACTION: McCool to talk to Zoltan about what he's bringing [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/01/18-wot-minutes.html#action11]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-95 - Talk to zoltan about what he's bringing [on Michael McCool - due 2017-01-25].
<kaz> PlugFest table on the Santa Clara f2f wiki
Michael Koster is putting together a "virtual thing"
testing: how to do?
can pair up devices, one in client role, one in server role
generally need a more structured approach
let's add a breakout session for "testing planning"
<mkovatsc> http://w3c.github.io/wot/current-practices/wot-practices-santa-clara-2017.html
version of current practices document for reference at plugfest... will be released as interest group note after plugfest
note: santa clara version will still be updated until the plugfest... call for reviews now, feedback deadline would be Feb 6
Dave: publishing the Current Practice document as an official W3C Group Note is helpful for publicity
kaz: suggest use github version for now, then publish note after debugging
then we use Current Practice document from Santa Clara to recruit
then we all take actions to promote it
next item: communication TF summary
Michael, Yingying, and Kaz
global work + local recruitment
kaz: news on w3c page, sending messages to mailing lists, targeted messaging to particular groups
yingying: for 2018 F2F, discussed security conference... IEEE S&P Conference looks to be appropriate
top-ranked, in SF area, expect it to be week of may 20-26 based on previous years
Yingying will contact organizers
yingying: keep the Comm TF timeslot to discuss items "on request", as agenda items arise, but a regular meeting does not seem to work well
kaz: have a standing agenda item for communication in last 5-10 minutes
of IG plenary
<scribe> ACTION: yingying to maintain agenda items for communication at end of IG plenary agenda [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/01/18-wot-minutes.html#action13]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-97 - Maintain agenda items for communication at end of ig plenary agenda [on Yingying Chen - due 2017-01-25].
dave: agenda request for next week: draft for a semantics TF charter, want to have something for discussion by next week
co-chairs meeting has also been decided... Kaz will send details; 10am in Europe, 6pm in Japan, Wednesday
[ adjourned ]