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Tzviya: One issue opened recently
on tracker: https://github.com/w3c/aria/issues/450
... James Teh suggested breaking doc-noteref into endnoteref
and footnoteref
MattG: I don't think that we need
to distingish because publishers use different symbols to refer
to the endnotes and footnotes
... We may need to indicate to AT that the symbols (asterisks,
etc) should be announced)
Janina: Usually the symbol is not announced
Tzviya: We agree that as long AT
announces the symbols, there is no need to add role
... the use case is that a user is looking at the list of notes
and needs to distinguish among the list of references to
endnotes and references to footnotes
... Sighted users can distinguish only by differentiating the
symbols
Michael: We do not need to make people more equal
Tzviya: consensus is that we will keep as is
Tzviya: Ivan proposed that for
the Vocab, 2 publisher/authors are using each term in a
production workflow
... OR epub:type (the predecessor to this vocabulary) might be
sufficient
... I will confirm with Ivan and Ralph
... Shane offered to do formal documenting for the testing
Michael: What about DPUB-AAM?
Tzviya: MS needs to finish up a few roles
Michael: We are not dependant on
DPUB-AAM for DPUB-ARIA
... because of different exit criteria
Tzviya: My understanding is that
we are relying on Core testing for DPUB-AAM testing
... What do you need from DPUB people for AAM testing?
Michael: We don't necessarily need 2 full implementations, just sufficient implementations. Must determine what that means
Tzviya: Let's follow up with Rich to find out what the plan for testing DPUB-AAM is
http://rawgit.com/w3c/aria/master/aria/dpub.html
Matt: still an issue in the
document about whether subclassing "none" is OK
... Wasn't this a question of whether or not the user wants to
hear the pullquote even if the content is duplication?
... Perhaps a user wants to jump between the pullquotes. Using
role="none" doesn't remove the content
Michael: to supress the content, would have to do aria role="hidden" in addition role ="none"
Matt: We should add hidden="true" to the example or make hidden="true" as implicit
Tzviya: Will that change any mappings?
Michael: Yes, and we will have to work with implementers to make sure they are on board
Tzviya: We should email the AAM authors explicitly to ask them to make the change
Michael: We need to document the
Exit Requirements
... and we need a wide review
Tzviya: I can send this to the
IDPF list
... We are working on Review ready version of DPUB-ARIA for CR
no later than 10 NOv
... ideally by 8 Nov
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