Mat: Joint call with OneM2M, 31 Aug
2016 (8am EDT)
... will send an email to gather agenda items
-> http://w3c.github.io/wot/charters/wot-wg-2016.html draft WG Charter
-> http://www.w3.org/2016/08/wot-white-paper/ WoT Whitepaper
Dave: information regarding current
situation of WG charter,
... Matthias volunteer this section,
... building blocks, how we bring it in the plugfest und
participate in plugfest
... proof the charter, AC review is planned for September
Mat: Next Wednesday meeting of W3M, then initiate the AC-review
Mat: remind the people regarding reports of the plugfest, move forward to TPAC preparation
Daniel: Split the content across 4
demonstration table,
... looking for contributors for lead the demo table, link is
posted at IRC
... scripting API, Johannes is asked to lead
... protocol bindings: Matthias, Frank, Uday are in the lead
... Template we would like to use as a common design for the
roll-up banner posters
... we have some technical issues, needs Kaz for that
Mat: we need more support for tables
Michael_McCool: (due to audio issue,
had to get reconnected)
... gave an introduction to his person and activities
-> http://w3c.github.io/wot/charters/wot-wg-2016.html draft WG Charter
-> http://www.w3.org/2016/08/wot-white-paper/ WoT Whitepaper
Kaz: (due to audio issue, had to get
reconnected)
... comment W3M review,
... wondering about changes based on charter
Mat: Talk about the changes, the long
introduction part was moved to the WoT Whitepaper
... in the mission statement we added a link to the
whitepaper
... Introduction is now pretty short, only focused what we want to
do
Kaz: We need to add clarification based on the W3M comments
Mat: Dave suggested somethings from Schema.org, vocabularies like linked open data
Michael: that can use devices from different vendors, different platforms
Kaz: yes, basically the goal of WoT
is not defining yet another IoT mechanism but
integrating/connecting all the existing IoT frameworks using the
Web application layer
... so it would be useful to add that kind of statement
Mat: W3C counter fragmentation of WoT ...
Kaz: btw, we need to add the ending
date. as discussed and got consensus the other day, it should be
"31 Dec. 2018"
... please merge my pull request for that
Mat: will do
Dave: suggests we update the Chair field with Michael McCool's name
Kaz: Regarding expected co-Chairs for
the WG, we should send a reminder to the whole IG first
... and also we should have discussion within the group to get
consensus about the updated WG Charter
Dave: The issue is that we don't have
time to discuss this in detail, we can't wait
... Philipp asked me to bring this to W3M next Wednesday
Kaz: The content is more important than bringing this to W3M
Dave: W3M makes the decision on the Chairs
Kaz: That is not correct. as the
W3C Process Document
states, appointing Chairs is one of the roles of the
Director
... however, initial discussion on the candidates should be done
within the group to build a consensus
Dave: that's different from my
understanding
... if the members have suggestions, we would see them
... it's not final but we have some proposals, so let's list
them
... next Tuesday is the deadline for review, if anyone has a comment the
person should send it by the end of Tuesday
... we can make small corrections, other things are to discuss
Kaz: if the document is fixed we can send it to W3M again
Mat: after the call, I'll send an
email to ask you all for review
... please review the updated draft WG charter
... if we don't have consensus in Tuesday evening, we won't send
the charter to AC review, and discuss the open issues later
again
... We should avoid that everything is based on W3M, some political
issues and comments, optimizing the wording, little bit more
flexible wording
Darko: comments the discussion
Dave: people from different backgrounds, we have demonstrated the audience during the plugfest
Uday: a question regarding the working group, single or multiple working groups?
Mat: IG will continue, WG is a single group, we almost finished with charter about that
Uday: Any sub-groups to the WG to deal with TD and other topics?
Mat: Sub-Topics are described in the charter
-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_September_2016,_Portugal,_Lisbon_Demo Lisbon demo wiki
Mat: Going back to the TPAC
Daniel: Questions to Kaz, 5 to 6 roll-up stands are planned
Kaz: I did get response regarding screens to meeting planning team
(there was much feedback noise and all members made a new connection with the meeting)
Mat: Roll-up is not clear, for the screens do we have a member who can look about it
Kaz: if it is possible for Siemens to bring some support?
Mat: We have to rent rooms, there is a located Siemens office...
Kaz: For us it may be easier to bring projectors, we can put some paper on the wall
Mat: the lead of the table is responsible to organize equipment, roll-ups, etc.
Kaz: Other message from the Business Development team, we can use a booth for the whole TPAC week but we need to pay 1,500 Euro
-> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-ac-forum/2016JulSep/0020.html demo booth for TPAC whole week (Member-only)
Mat: That is too much overhead for
us
... the network, what we definitely need, wired Internet?
Kaz: We are clarify the equipment
Mat: We are using our own router, The setup last time was very complicated
Kaz: I asked about the possibility about connection
Mat: Is there an internet connector in the room and are there any security requirements?
Daniel: Will take the rest from this topic to the mail list
Mat: IG deliverables, Kaz can you say some words to that topics
Kat: We need to clarify the
"shortname" for the publication
... basically we can reuse the GitHub file names as the shortnames,
e.g., wot-ucr, wot-architecture and wot-practices
Mat: I'll check it and send an email
for that
... all the documents except Technology Landscape should be ready
for publication
... we should be able to publish the Technology
Landscape as well once we get an active Editor
Soumya: Come back from vacation and can work on that
Mat: next week convert technical
landscape for the release, then we can see the open issues
... I would like to publish documents before TPAC
Soumya: Yes agree, will support
Mat: Thank you, speak about it next week
-> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wot-ig/2016Aug/0010.html discussion on Hydra
Bergi: Start technological discussion
regarding Hydra
... you can make a Get-request if you know what you have, you can
use this operation to set up actions,...
Darko: little bit difficult to
understand your statement clearly (technical problems of
communication quality)
... I personally find Hydra as a very interesting approach, on the
other hand TD it aims another web of things solution, if you want
to read property you want to use a Get, and so on..
Daniel: I can't understand completely the comparison between Hydra and WoT
Michael_Koster: Hydra was more hypermedia protocols..
Mat: Hydra, you can have many
different operations
... would you be interested on this kind of comparison?
Bergi: Yes, but I don't know the TD in detail,...
Mat: Any closing comments?
Kaz: Possible agenda topics for the
next call (as a joint call with oneM2M) will be discussed in the
mail list
... Yingying is on vacation for short time, properly for one
week
Mat: will send an email to gather agenda items to the group
-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/track/actions/open Open actions
Mat: Please have a look at the action tracker, I put a link at the IRC, please update the tracker
[ adjourned ]