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Jon: working on different models
for documenting treeview, but not ready for review today
... will be in readme file
Michiel: will be ready for Aug 8
meeting
... code sample and text for breadcrumb
<MichielBijl> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/17
James: added breadcrumbs to table
Matt: question about documenting grid design examples...must clone repository?
Jon: should be able to reference via URL
Matt: trying to make access easy for widest possible audience
Jon: let's just do as have been doing
Matt: agrees
... need consistent experince and most usable
Jon: on vacation - back August
29
... will check with Jemma on treeview
Matt: encourage Jemma to update issue(s) and let Matt know which are ready on Aug 8
Jon: has others working on menu example
Matt: James was going to add info on adding URLs
James: did add
<jamesn> Link to the role definition in the ARIA spec the first time the role is used within the section
<jamesn> set class to role-reference
<jamesn> set href to #[role name] eg. href="#note"
<jamesn> Link to state and property definitions the first time they are used in a section
<jamesn> set class to property-reference
<jamesn> set href to #[property name] eg. href="#aria-owns"
Matt: done for now
... ready to be referenced by other instructions
Matt: saw that Jon made update to
this page
... on step 3 - should we be more explicit on where to
look?
Jon: agrees
Matt: naming conventions for Step 4 and give each example a unique flavor?
Jon: ease of naming by using example-1, etc
Matt: ok
... for Step 5 - just provide path to template file?
Jon: ok
Matt: just copy template directory for Step 4?
Jon: ok
... each example should be in own directory? Or sibling?
Matt: instructions are for one example
James: keep it simple - if sharing, make siblings. if not sharing, make directory.
Jon: alright
Matt: do instructions exist for beginning with github?
James: don't think we should be writing github instructions
Matt: will put into wiki. Ian's updates not yet available.
James: running out of time
Matt: agrees
Matt: Ian not available
... postpone topic
Jon: just create dummy directory for every example we need
Matt: agrees
<mck> http://whatsock.com/test/w3c/ARIA%20Accordions/demo.htm
Jon: what is accordion?
Matt: headings with buttons that
expand/collapse
... different than tree - there is no accordion role
... behavior and look/feel
... ARIA communicates functionality
... was based on tabs, but not juxtapose in DOM
James: kbd pattern for tabs is
virtually unusable
... perhaps group as set of controls
... accordion could span width of page
... not confined to left nav
Matt: why does one always have to be expanded?
Brian: only one open at a time OR may have more than one expanded
Matt: kbd problem getting to next - call out one more desirable?
James: no, either must be allowed
Jon: use display::none
Brian: every toggle has unique name
Matt: heading doesn't match
region name
... if first content inside is a heading,, it is
confusing
... thanks to Brian for completing this.
Brian: will sent to Matt to add
to git
... should have scripting and minor changes finished later
today
<mck> http://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/#grid
Matt: Section 3.1.3 - overall structure is a bit different & 2 kbd interaction sections and 1 states/properties (section 7) and placeholder Section 3.2.8 for table
Jon: looking for writer for table?
Matt: more interested in writer for section 7
Jon: interested but cannot start until return to work
Matt: will create issue for it
<mck> http://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/#gridAndTableProperties
James: open issue for table properties
<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/65
Matt: whoever starts to work on it should 'claim' issue
Jon: should all examples use same CSS content technique?
Matt & James: all examples should not use background images (not available in HiContrast)
James: creating issue for Ian for Example Coding Style Guide
<jongund> had to go to another call
<jamesn> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/66
James: creating issue for accordion example
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