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ARIA APG TF

27 Jun 2016

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Attendees

Present
jaeunKu, JamesNurthen, MattKing, Birkir, JonGunderson, AnnAbbott, IanPouncey
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Contents


<mck> scribe: matt_king

<jamesn> scribe: mck

Review status of current example development work https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/Design-Patterns-Status

mk: reviewing status page.
... Want to include dates in table rather than just flags.

<jongund> https://rawgit.com/jongund/aria-practices/master/examples/treeview/js/treeview.js

MK: Discuss need for coding guidelines
... Ask Ian if he can contribute

IP: Yes, can do in next couple weeks.

jg: Shared current treeview example
... includes license, and doc

ip: will use as a starting point

jg: want ti to be readable and understandable, especially for keyboard support.

mk: issues like how much of the aria is in the html vs injected with js

jg: yes, easier to follow if attribs are in the html

mk: goal is to make it easier for other people to contribute to the project.

jg: Not necessarily easier but they have to read somethig.

mk: Just to be clear, this is only about the js/css/html, not the complete example template.
... Bryan could you contribute accordian.

bg: It would helpif someone else put together the template page.
... I will be gone from aug 2 to sep 2

<Birkir> I can help with the documentation/content part of the accordion if needed.

mk: discussion of review process; attempt to do async via the list.

<jemma_> https://cdn.rawgit.com/jongund/aria-practices/master/examples/treeview/treeviews.html

jg: tree is ready. woudllike review today.

mk: Birkir will take the tabs example; Michiel can then focus on spinbutton.

Review format (not content) of tree pattern example page as proposal for improved example information template

<jemma_> https://cdn.rawgit.com/jongund/aria-practices/master/examples/treeview/treeviews.html

<jongund> https://rawgit.com/jongund/aria-practices/master/examples/treeview/treeviews.html

jg: This template features a table that describes each of several different kinds of trees.
... it is an overview page.
... Describes which aria attribs are used in each example

mk: wondering if this overview info goes in the main doc
... we will not have so many examples for every pattern

jg: that's fine to do it that way

Birkir: enjoys the fruit example

mk: could the link tree replace the site navigator tree section

Birkir: likes the idea of consolidating.

mk: John, did you make any other template changes on the example pages

jg: We added a keyboard section table
... We have an aria roles table

mk: Is this redundant info

jg: not every example does everything described in the main doc

So, it says what is used in this particular example.

<jemma_> https://blog.codepen.io/documentation/features/embedded-pens/

mk: discussion of how readers of examples can easily download or use the thml that goes along with the css and js.

<jemma_> birkir's team tested accessibility between jsfiddle and codepen andfound codepen is more accessible.

<jemma_> mck: May we have a way of rending html automatically in the example?

<Birkir> This is how we do it on Deque University: https://dequeuniversity.com/library/aria/counters/sf-characters-remaining

<jemma_> mck:filename.html can be added as a separate link in the example so that html file can be downloaded.

mk: 3 high-level changes to template:

1. Overview page is part of main doc and does not include the detail tables.

2. Move detail tables to example pages.

3. Make downloading example source easier.

4. Add a description of the use case of the example.

<jemma_> mck:main doc means "apg doc"

<jongund> https://gist.github.com/jongund/2f4510cbddd4d7ace40154656a6867d4

Instructions for creating an example

JG: provided link to a gist

mk: This gist is good start but missing initial steps.
... Assume this is being read by someone who is not familiar with our repo and may even need basic git guidance.

Summary of Action Items

Summary of Resolutions

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