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<richardschwerdtfeger> preseent+ Rich_Schwerdtfeger
<mgylling> http://idpf.org/news/first-editors-draft-of-epub-31-available-for-review
tzviya: IDPF published ed draft
of EPUB 3.1 last week
... there are some dependencies on ARIA
<mgylling> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/issues/1009
<mgylling> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2006
Rich: I am working on extended
descriptions
... creating relationship for ext desc, requirement for it to
be exposed to AT, it has to be visible
... in contact with CSS regarding media query for hide/show
Janina: i've been in contact with
florian
... the author doesn't do anything special. The media query is
for UA not author
tzviya: what can dpub do to help?
Janina: Let's see what James and Florian say in response to MQ question
ivan: please explain exactly what MQ would do
Janina: default is that descriptions are disabled. User can enable descriptions, up to UA to determine UI
Ivan: understood, but what is the query? What is the relation to MQ? Usually this relates to things like screen size
Rich: CSS needs to create am
attribute similar to inverting colors
... basically context issues
<ShaneM> User / Device state
ivan: in some ways, this is more about context and user preference than media queries
<scribe> scribenick: Tzviya
https://drafts.csswg.org/mediaqueries-4/
<ShaneM> The naming is historical / legacy
Tzviya: link-types (https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2006) is with Joanie?
Markus: We are trying to figure out how we can help
Rich: We are trying to get this
into the content, and we have a new consensus policy. At this
point, just need to support it
... People are generally supportive of link-type approach. We
need to write it
... make sure that all link-types are represented
... Extended Descriptions becomes a browser prefence and need
to discuss how access it
... This is likely to be a reading system issue
Tzviya: How does this solve anything then?
Ivan: There are numerous things
that I can set in my browser: font size, etc. If the model is
that I set this in the CSS, maybe we want to put this in a
larger context
... Maybe this is not just about extended descriptions?
Janina: Yes, but one step at a time
Rich: After ARIA 1.1, I'll be
working on p18n as well
... I can't see an OS-wide system for revealing extended
descriptions
... Once we resolve link-types, we need to do another pass at
API mappings with all vendors
... How does this get pulled into EPUB?
Tzviya: It is a reference
... We are scheduled to publish another draft of DPUB-ARIA in
March. This affects testing and APIs
https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Notes
Shane: HTML A11y TF will discuss
notes today, checking to see if this group has any
changes
... is there still interest in this community in creating
something for notes?
tzviya: dpub-aria has role="footnote | footnotes | noteref"
markus: there is also the possibility of link-type = "noteref"
Janina: We are pulling 5.1 together as a following up to 5.0
tzviya: once you're talking about a11y issues in html, please define whether there is a max char count for alt text and what it is
rich: what does EPUB 3.1 say about describedat?
<ShaneM> https://w3c.github.io/alt-techniques/
markus: we took it out of the draft. There is a placeholder for whatever ARIA comes up with to replace it
<ShaneM> tzviya: https://w3c.github.io/alt-techniques/#alt-restrict-no-difference
<ShaneM> lol - I meant https://w3c.github.io/alt-techniques/#alt-restrict-overflow
bye, zakim
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