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<trackbot> Date: 21 January 2015
<scribe> Scribe: Katie Haritos-Shea
<scribe> ScribeNick: Ryladog
<scribe> Meeting: IndieUI Working Group Teleconference
<janina> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-ig/2015JanMar/0009.html
JS: Andy may be moving to South
America, so that will make him being able to join our
call
... He may be able to join this currrent call
JW: So Andy may then be able to contribute to the User Context spec
JS: Hopefully
... We will see if Rich is able to attend, otherwise we may
need to end this call
JW: I need to look up the
Schema.org documents
... The Editors report, have their been any commitss?
JS: I am unsure. Can anyone look
JW: Git will show you all the latest comits
JS: I should learn how to use Git, maybe we will discuss it this weekend
<janina> We're on the phone, Rich!
JS: We think the only item we want to talk about today is your posed question
JS: Is there value in using IndieUI User context
Katie is having issues seeing/inputing minutes bec asue of some 'waiting for irc.w3.org' error in the IRC input
RS: This could open up a can of worms. How far do we want this to go. I think we should map this to digital math. There are some things that Bentiec is doing and I wantt o map that to what is happening in the browser
JW: Some screen readers will pass the Braille ? to the browser?
RS: Do we want to do that in
1.0?
... As dar as I cam concerned I havent seen any browser
implement and User Context features
... And ePub reader is based on broswer technoogies
JS: If we have an ePub leader
implenment our stuff than we can get to CR
... Another question of 1. or should we do this at all. Are we
talking about - for extensibility - if someone wanted to use
Latex - have we built that in?
JW: I am not sure that we have
built and extensibility in
... If you think that Epub might be interestd in this it would
be nice to see what their needs, use caes nd ewqirements
are
JS: If we do put ePub in and we
dont get any implementtaions - we could just pull it out in the
next version
... Like the BRaille peice for implementation - there os
probably not a large group who wan t that now
JW: But may be we do, it woul be good to hear from folks and if there is inteest we might do it
RS: For the ePUB I amy be able to talk to Kireshen\\er
JS: This coul be veery powerful in dynamic seraxh
RS: We ahve conponnets that could be very useful. ePub wanys smarted book
JRS: We could get some of that in ePub thy csan expose some of this stuff
JW: I have been looking at this inthe Braille psace quite a bit
JS: Latex
RS: The only thing I am unsude of is can we do Latex if W3C doesnt have Latex as a W3C stabdards
JS: We dont have to do it someone
else can, But MathML is one we can de, and others can
implement
... I think I am hearing that we do want to do that is, hw
soon? Have fast might someone want to implements it
JW: We have browsers use cases -
but not in these otther areas
... We shoudl broaden the convesaton especilaly if
implementations are ikely to be in that direction
RS: We could talk to Google, ePub folks, MathML, Braille etc
JS: Back to Andy may be able to join us
RS: Jason are you working on any of the editing of this spec?
JW: No I have not dome any of the editing
RS: I caan do some of te editing
for tthe Schema.org, but I have to many things going on.,
... The SVG group has aan uber-editor
... I just do not know waht Jamesavaiabluility is going to
be
... They are just be ing pragmatic aout it
JS: I think we cn move User Context forward
RS: For the eVents - I thinkwe are going o have to work with WebApps - we just do not have th manpower for Events
JOanie: On the MathML 3 could you have a property for alternate representations? That might get you your Latex
<joanie> http://www.w3.org/TR/MathML3/chapter5.html#mixing.alternate.representations
RS: I am unsure what W3C allows
JS: That is a process question that I can get ananswer to from Judy
RS: Ther are 2 - Schema.org was put into a W3C document - so you eally have Latex. We need to find out if they are going to step on us
JS: Maybe not. HTML5 is donr.
RS: HTML is th least intetesting
thing that the W3C is going to do noww
... You alsi hav a module extnion point
... HTML is domne and do not want to add other controls
JS: What canidiates are things that W3C can do beyond apps/applications
RS: I work for an IBM startgey.
Apps and CSS is huge. Mobile devices dont deliver CSS in a good
manner
... SVG is really going to come big on the web. And Web Speach
API in both ,Chrome and Firfox. So that opens up really big
responsibilities for the aging population and
... The desgn community is all about visyual
... We need to go with more modalities and broader range of
users
JS: Web Speach is interesting
JW: I am verty interested in this for the WEb Speech API and possible uss fr the User Context
JS: HTML is no longer the interesting thin. Waht the heck is next
RS: Jason how would you like to
help me with the editing on the User Context document?
... We will talk about that more. I am glad that Andy is moving
to Argentina
JW: I was just agreeing that I would help Rich with editing of the User Context doc
RS: When Michael gets back we should get Jason and I access to the document - User Context.
JW: We can start putting editorial responsibilities on me
RSRS: I cand o some of it but bandwidth s killing me
RS: Jason did Mark talk about moving to ePub docss where you are?
JW: It is not ht eonly one
RS: It is cool that we hav ePub docss at IBM. We need an ePub cloud reader
iBooks has a good reader
JW: If I talk to Matk H. about SmartBooks there is a convergence of interest
RS: ePubI is very hot right
... I iwll be speaking at Harvard this year
JW: I will be on the SVG call
RS: I invited ePub to that
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