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Tweak and agree on agenda

AB: I posted a draft agenda yesterday http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pointer-events/2014OctDec/0087.html. Any change requests?

[ None ]

Testing and implementation report status

AB: I would like to get the status of the testing and Implementation Report

AV: the test suite is up to date

… includes all the findings from last 2 weeks

… something in the test infra is not in sync

AB: is the sync problem the one you mentioned to PLH?

AV: yes; we need an update from GH to w3c-test.org

… my conclusion is it is still out of date

… so this means we need to use the GH version during the testing

AB: so you have done the testing using GH version?

AV: yes

… Matt will file report for Mozilla

… Jacob will file report for IE

AB: thanks for the update
... eventually, the Implementation Report will be in https://github.com/w3c/test-results/tree/gh-pages/pointerevents

… after Matt and Jacob upload their data, me or Doug or PLH can then generate the reports

… can you Doug please ask PLH about an ETA for the sync fix

DS: will do

AB: my recommendation is for Matt and Jacob to upload their data now

… Jacob, Matt, can you do that?

MB: yes; we found a few bugs and fixed them; we are doing our last round of testing now

… and if all goes well, I can upload our results tomorrow

JR: I think we can submit IE data now

… we ran our tests on IE fork of w-p-t

… but that should now be identical to w3c-test.org

… so we are good to go

AB: can you upload the results today Jacob?

JR: yes

AB: anything else on testing?

… thanks very much Asir, Jacob and Matt!

… I really appreciate your work, especially knowing there are a ton of manual tests!

LCWD Comment Processing

AB: currently, the only LC commenter is Josh Soref and he submitted 42 comments http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pointer-events/2014OctDec/0076.html.
... yesterday, I checked in changes for 26 of his comments, all editorial http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pointer-events/2014OctDec/0089.html.
... Jacob agreed to reply to the other 16 comments and my expectation is he will act on those today.

JR: yes, that's right

… a few we might we want to talk about

… #12, is about uniqueness of the pointerID

… think this is mostly clear but Josh mentions some scenarios

… will add something like "… in the document …" to address this

… the current impls work that way

… #31 "what happens if …"

… asking for guidance

… similar to MQs and hover

… I intend to add a Note

… will look at MQs for text to borrow or create my own text

<plh> oki

AB: any other comments that are work discussing

DS: I think most of Josh's comments were editorial in nature and I agree with Jacob's proposed way of handling them

AB: anyone else

[ None ]

AB: will you reply to Josh today?

JR: yes; I'll commit changes today

… just need to do the push

AB: re comment tracking, I propose just creating a Wiki document and if that's agreeable, I'll take the lead to create it and maintain it.

… I'm also happy to defer to any way you recommend

JR: a wiki is fine

… what about revision history for these comments?

AB: just one list item for Josh's comments is OK

Github sync issue

PLH: did you check today Asir?

AV: I have no way of checking except to run a test

… no timestamp, for instance

PLH: I was told it was fixed late yesterday evening

… if there are any probs, let me know

… I think you are OK now

AV: ok; thanks Philippe!

PLH: I can double-check if needed

AV: thanks; all clear now

Pointer Events Normative References

AB: I sent out http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pointer-events/2014OctDec/0092.html today

PLH: so D3E and DOM4

… I recall discussing this before

… and I think we are OK

JR: yes

PLH: MouseEvents and MouseEventInit are in D3E

… for Director, can say MouseEvents are in D3E but they were defined in D2Events

… re the constructor, we need a test

JR: yes, we have that test in the test suite

… IE and FF both pass it

PLH: in that case, you are fine

<jrossi> https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/blob/master/pointerevents/pointerevent_constructor.html

AB: sounds like we are in OK shape for the refs

PLH: yes, should be OK

<jrossi> run it here: http://w3c-test.org/pointerevents/pointerevent_constructor.html

<plh> http://w3c.github.io/beacon/#terminology

AoB

AB: any other topics for today?
... Patrick suggested we take up Touch Events at some meeting.

… that's fine with me but getting PE to REC is the highest priority at the moment

PLH: have you looked at WebDriver API?

JR: yes; coordinating with John Jansen

… we submitted some comments

… hope to get those done in v2

AB: meeting adjourned

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Default Present: Art_Barstow, Matt_Brubeck, Scott_Gonzalez, [Microsoft], Doug_Schepers, jrossi, Philippe
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pointer-events/2014OctDec/0087.html
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Guessing minutes URL: http://www.w3.org/2014/12/02-pointerevents-minutes.html
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