15:59:46 RRSAgent has joined #pointerevents 15:59:46 logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/12/02-pointerevents-irc 16:00:04 ScribeNick: ArtB 16:00:04 Scribe: ArtB 16:00:04 Meeting: Pointer Events Working Group Voice Conference 16:00:04 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pointer-events/2014OctDec/0087.html 16:00:45 zakim, who's here? 16:00:45 sorry, ArtB, I don't know what conference this is 16:00:47 On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, jrossi2, scott_gonzalez, ArtB, shepazu, rbyers, mbrubeck_, slightlyoff, sangwhan_, trackbot 16:00:53 Zakim, this will be RWC_PEWG 16:00:53 ok, ArtB, I see RWC_PEWG()11:00AM already started 16:00:59 zakim, who's here? 16:01:00 On the phone I see Matt_Brubeck, Art_Barstow, Scott_Gonzalez, [Microsoft], [Microsoft.a] 16:01:00 On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, jrossi2, scott_gonzalez, ArtB, shepazu, rbyers, mbrubeck_, slightlyoff, sangwhan_, trackbot 16:01:14 RRSAgent, make log public 16:01:57 +Doug_Schepers 16:02:34 Present: Art_Barstow, Matt_Brubeck, Scott_González, Doug_Schepers 16:02:49 Regrets: Rick_Byers, Patrick_Lauke, Sangwhan_Moon, Olli_Pettay 16:03:11 Present+ Asir_Vedamuthu, Jacob_Rossi 16:03:44 Topic: Tweak and agree on agenda 16:03:49 AB: I posted a draft agenda yesterday http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pointer-events/2014OctDec/0087.html. Any change requests? 16:03:55 Zakim, Microsoft.a is jrossi 16:03:56 +jrossi; got it 16:04:07 [ None ] 16:04:15 asir has joined #pointerevents 16:04:18 Topic: Testing and implementation report status 16:04:23 AB: I would like to get the status of the testing and Implementation Report 16:04:44 AV: the test suite is up to date 16:04:54 … includes all the findings from last 2 weeks 16:05:06 … something in the test infra is not in sync 16:06:00 AB: is the sync problem the one you mentioned to PLH? 16:06:14 AV: yes; we need an update from GH to w3c-test.org 16:06:31 … my conclusion is it is still out of date 16:06:43 … so this means we need to use the GH version during the testing 16:06:59 AB: so you have done the testing using GH version? 16:07:01 AV: yes 16:07:13 … Matt will file report for Mozilla 16:07:19 … Jacob will file report for IE 16:07:27 AB: thanks for the update 16:07:42 AB: eventually, the Implementation Report will be in https://github.com/w3c/test-results/tree/gh-pages/pointerevents 16:08:18 … after Matt and Jacob upload their data, me or Doug or PLH can then generate the reports 16:09:03 … can you Doug please ask PLH about an ETA for the sync fix 16:09:10 DS: will do 16:09:31 AB: my recommendation is for Matt and Jacob to upload their data now 16:09:41 … Jacob, Matt, can you do that? 16:09:57 MB: yes; we found a few bugs and fixed them; we are doing our last round of testing now 16:10:06 smaug has joined #pointerevents 16:10:09 … and if all goes well, I can upload our results tomorrow 16:10:18 JR: I think we can submit IE data now 16:10:39 … we ran our tests on IE fork of w-p-t 16:10:51 … but that should now be identical to w3c-test.org 16:10:56 … so we are good to go 16:11:08 AB: can you upload the results today Jacob? 16:11:10 JR: yes 16:11:22 AB: anything else on testing? 16:11:33 … thanks very much Asir, Jacob and Matt! 16:11:54 … I really appreciate your work, especially knowing there are a ton of manual tests! 16:12:03 Topic: LCWD Comment Processing 16:12:09 AB: currently, the only LC commenter is Josh Soref and he submitted 42 comments http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pointer-events/2014OctDec/0076.html. 16:12:22 AB: yesterday, I checked in changes for 26 of his comments, all editorial http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pointer-events/2014OctDec/0089.html. 16:12:37 AB: Jacob agreed to reply to the other 16 comments and my expectation is he will act on those today. 16:12:57 JR: yes, that's right 16:13:14 … a few we might we want to talk about 16:13:56 … #12, is about uniqueness of the pointerID 16:14:36 … think this is mostly clear but Josh mentions some scenarios 16:14:51 … will add something like "… in the document …" to address this 16:15:07 … the current impls work that way 16:15:52 … #31 "what happens if …" 16:16:02 … asking for guidance 16:16:12 … similar to MQs and hover 16:16:59 … I intend to add a Note 16:17:10 plh has joined #pointerevents 16:17:14 … will look at MQs for text to borrow or create my own text 16:17:42 oki 16:17:58 +Philippe 16:18:04 AB: any other comments that are work discussing 16:18:38 DS: I think most of Josh's comments were editorial in nature and I agree with Jacob's proposed way of handling them 16:18:57 AB: anyone else 16:19:03 [ None ] 16:19:19 AB: will you reply to Josh today? 16:19:26 JR: yes; I'll commit changes today 16:19:33 … just need to do the push 16:19:47 AB: re comment tracking, I propose just creating a Wiki document and if that's agreeable, I'll take the lead to create it and maintain it. 16:20:12 … I'm also happy to defer to any way you recommend 16:20:59 JR: a wiki is fine 16:21:13 … what about revision history for these comments? 16:21:32 AB: just one list item for Josh's comments is OK 16:22:00 Topic: Github sync issue 16:22:02 Cathy has joined #pointerevents 16:22:29 PLH: do you check Asir? 16:22:39 AV: I have no way of checking except to run a test 16:22:46 … no timestamp, for instance 16:22:57 -Matt_Brubeck 16:22:58 PLH: I was told it was fixed late yesterday evening 16:23:22 … if there are any probs, let me know 16:23:29 … I think you are OK now 16:23:37 AV: ok; thanks Philippe! 16:23:48 PLH: I can double-check if needed 16:23:56 AV: thanks; all clear now 16:24:47 Topic: Pointer Events Normative References 16:24:53 AB: I sent out http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pointer-events/2014OctDec/0092.html today 16:25:03 PLH: so D3E and DOM4 16:25:16 … I recall discussing this before 16:25:21 … and I think we are OK 16:25:26 JR: yes 16:25:53 PLH: MouseEvents and MouseEventInit are in D3E 16:26:22 … for Director, can say MouseEvents are in D3E but they were defined in D2Events 16:26:38 … re the constructor, we need a test 16:26:53 JR: yes, we have that test in the test suite 16:27:11 … IE and FF both pass it 16:27:17 PLH: in that case, you are fine 16:27:35 https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/blob/master/pointerevents/pointerevent_constructor.html 16:27:38 AB: sounds like we are in OK shape for the refs 16:27:51 PLH: yes, should be OK 16:28:01 run it here: http://w3c-test.org/pointerevents/pointerevent_constructor.html 16:28:47 http://w3c.github.io/beacon/#terminology