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<trackbot> Date: 14 October 2014
<bevans> is me
<paulc> Regrets were received from Mark W: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2014Oct/0019.html
<paulc> Scribenick: paulc
Open issues that need to be discussed: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25923#c42
David is working is on the open issues and will request feedback when he makes more progress.
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25966
This bug is editorial and David is awaiting IDL feedback due to a possible bug in IDL spec.
<joesteele> scribenick: joesteele
<scribe> chair: paulc
<paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26332
paulc: this is in the security related batch
<paulc> See also security item: Bug 26838 - Normatively address vulnerabilities related to initData contained in media data
paulc: other one in this batch is
<paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26838#c2
paulc: I would propose we
continue discussing these
... and have at least these two on the agenda at the F2F and
see if we can make progress
... any others for this batch?
... David?
ddorwin: don't think so
<paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26776
paulc: Jerry is on point?
jdsmith: yes -- proposal at F2F
jdsmith: we need to update based on comments from last week
<paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26887
paulc: let me add the minutes
paulc: Bob Lund on point for this?
<paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26738
joesteele: Bob if you are speaking we can't hear you
ddorwin: 26811 is still blocked on this
<paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26811
<paulc> Bug 26811 - Separate definitions of Initialization Data Types from Stream Format parsing
paulc: David, can you give us the status of 26811?
ddorwin: lower priority, have not
done anything recently
... I am on point
paulc: after this Bob Lund can do 26738?
ddorwin: yes
<paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26372
ddorwin: I will implement this proposal this week
paulc: then should be on next
week or the F2F agenda
... is there actually a proposal?
ddorwin: the proposal was Map-like
paulc: looking for a comment to
describe that
... but we have a clear indication of what to do
ddorwin: I am doing that
<paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26811
paulc: that status from above is
here
... David is on point, lower priority
<paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26573
paulc: editorial cleanup
ddorwin: on my list, low priority
ddorwin: proposal was accepted - was waiting on respec
<paulc> Previously dependent on https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24322 (new objects and respec)
<paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24771
<paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26838
paulc: bakc to things that have not been worked on in awhile
ddorwin: added some text to this
but left it open
... in case other things should be added
<paulc> Changes are outlined in https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=26838#c2
paulc: so we could discuss and possibly close at the F2F?
ddorwin: sure?
... could close now
<paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25092#c23 for recent history
paulc: looks like from comment 23
Mark has been talking to www-style about this
... Mark is not here
... what should we do if we do not hear back? has been a
month?
joesteele: does anyone have direct contact with www-style?
jdsmith: think we still have a need - don't want to stream if client is downscaling
paulc: Mark Watson is on point and Paul I will follow up
<paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25268
ddorwin: we tried to fix, but we don't have a good proposal or idea yet
<paulc> See https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25268#c6
paulc: who will lead the
discussion at the F2F to outline this problem?
... one of the editors?
<paulc> tl;dr: The current solution is broken and does not help many applications.
ddorwin: not sure we will get any ideas at the F2F
paulc: that would be one route
forward
... if folks come with proposals that would be better
jdsmith: David you opened this bug, do you want to keep it open
ddorwin: I am inclined to close this as well
paulc: that may happen at the F2F
<paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25217
joesteele: I think we can do this later -- I will ad a comment to that effect
paulc: we can mark as RESOLVE LATER later
paulc: this will obviously remain
open -- no discussion since May
... we get flamed when we try to do something
... we will put on the F2F
... is this related to the TAG document?
ddorwin: same spirit, but not directly related
paulc: TAG is not meeting in Santa Clara, they had a recent F2F
<paulc> See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2014Oct/0002.html
pal: I think part of the
challened if that the TAG is very early in its thinking -- the
document has fluctuated a lot
... once the doc has become more firm, it would be good for us
to review this doc
paulc: Mark has done this and
provided feedback
... he responded to Dominics comments
... composition of the TAG has changed as well since then
pal: it might be for entire group good to consider this
<scribe> ACTION: paulc to contact TAG and determine what their status is and whether we should review/comment [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/10/14-html-media-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-66 - Contact tag and determine what their status is and whether we should review/comment [on Paul Cotton - due 2014-10-21].
pal: that works
paulc: about side channels
<scribe> ... no progress since May
ddorwin: editors closed this bug and it was reopened
<paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25434
paulc: does that mean the editors would like to figure out something new before the F2F?
ddorwin: there is a philosophical difference of opinion
<paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24082
joesteele: very similar to interop bug in my opinion
paulc: have not come back to this
in awhile
... this was opened by Adrian
... Jerry can you take an action to discuss this with
him?
<scribe> ACTION: jdsmith to discuss bug 2082 with Adrian re - resolution [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/10/14-html-media-minutes.html#action02]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-67 - Discuss bug 2082 with adrian re - resolution [on Jerry Smith - due 2014-10-21].
<paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=23827
paulc: looks administrative -- don't need to worry about that
<paulc> Administrative for entry to CR
<paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=24874
paulc: has not been touched since March
jdsmith: David has the only comment -- think we just need to make a decision - he has three options
paulc: David can we cue for F2F? Or is next week ok?
ddorwin: Jerry is right -- we just need to decide whether to solve. We have another option now based on how MediaKey get created -- bug 25923
<paulc> https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=25923
ddorwin: I will update the bug with that info
paulc: we are in position to move
forward on an number of these bugs, I suggest that we give
people time to work on their action items and adjourn for the
day
... editors, commenters, etc
... any comments?
... you will see a detailed agenda from me ahead of time
... ok, you can all have 20 min back
<paulc> good morning, everyone
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