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issue-3: can be closed with http://www.w3.org/2014/04/30-i18nits-minutes.html#action01
<trackbot> Notes added to issue-3 Define how namespace prefix binding is passed to CSS selectors.
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action-33?
<trackbot> action-33 -- David Lewis to Work on its ontology documentation in turtle -- due 2014-05-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/its/ig/track/actions/33
dave: mail is sent out
... that was the main new stuff to be done
... just need to sync with sebastian how to move forward
... would be good to get comments
... I suggested to use that in the webplatform.org page jirka
started
<daveL> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2014Jun/0019.html
dave: I'll contact sebastian on how to follow up
close action-33
<trackbot> Closed action-33.
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-its-ig/2014Jun/0017.html
discussion about the document
serge: discussion last week at lt-innovate, my impression is that we have time to provide input to other efforts. the doc currently is pre-mature, we need to think more what to add / what to express
dave: agree
... want to socialize the doc with gala, crisp initiative
etc.
serge: want to put more marketing weight in this
dave: good to know that this is
not so urgent
... people at lt-innovate also said it would be good to relate
the doc to other efforts like RDF mapping of meta-share
... about data activity in w3c - I looked at linked data
platform
... seems to be very relevant for the doc we are writing
... basic assumption: have a web server that serves RDF and
other data types
... have not seen many implementations yet - they are working
on this now?
felix: yes
<daveL> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/default/ldp-primer/ldp-primer.html
felix asking about scope of doc, given jörg's mail
dave: we had similar discussion
with other people - cef is a conrete use case with a clear
audience
... it is good to keep it focused but synchronized with other
efforts, e.g. what is going on with meta-share / tbx in the
ld4lt group
... in terms of practical output:
<daveL> https://www.w3.org/community/bpmlod/wiki/Draft_Guidelines_on_Bitext_as_Linked_Data
dave: bpmlod group (again driven
by LIDER) looks into diferrent types of language
resources
... there are guidelines about how to publish bitext
... e.g. it does not have to be RDF, can be TBX / CSV / XLIFF /
...
... so one way of approaching the guideline could be a profile
of the "linked data platform" specification
... that is: what would be the bitext specification for a web
service that serves bitext?
... the other part would be the conceptual part that is covered
by ontolex group
... would be good to line that up and look at our audience
Pedro: e-commerce as a usage
scenario - what are the needs of open / linked data at the
European level? that has a real application
... e-commerce can help to unify european market
serge: e-commerce is only one
aspect - flow of information is important too
... e-commerce can be flow of information - you cannot focus on
trade as such, right?
pedro: agree, don't want to be
focused on e-commerce only, but e-commerce could be a good use
case
... agree with serge that content is everything, also legal
content
... I am saying e-commerce since linked data issue to make
business with it - if you don't see the fruit today the next
day it is getting bad
... in e-commerce this is very true - change of data is very
high. I mention this as an application only, not as main
subsect of the document
serge: ok
dave: CEF aspect is: automated
translation should help other infrastructures in Europe
... they have a specific list of other CEF services to support
with automated translation, not as a general service in
Europe
... of course there is a gap between CMS and localization
... filling that gap with e-commerce may make sense
<daveL> https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/sites/digital-agenda/files/WP2014%20-%20official%20published.pdf
<daveL> http://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/
felix: maybe provide use cases like e-commerce in the ld4lt group?
dave: agree
https://www.w3.org/community/ld4lt/wiki/Seed_Use_Cases
yves: depends on what we want to
do
... if we want to be with release version of XLIFF
... have not been able to do things in mapping doc
... classify data cats that are in XLIFF already - started that
today
... for the parts that need specific markup and make a module
then for that
... will work on the wiki page and then tell people to look at
that - after that we need implementers
dave: we could work on CNGL on
implementing the mappings
... that worked well in lt-web - parser for ITS2.0, david did
some work with XLIFF 2.0
... supporting the mappings we'd do on the CNGL side
... makes it more digestable to the XLIFF people if we have the
classification yves described
dave: will bring it up at ld4lt call tomorrow
felix: will see if arle can participate in that
https://www.w3.org/International/its/wiki/Main_Page#Work_items.2C_issues.2C_actions
discussion about autumn events (locworld, tpac, unicode etc.)
https://www.w3.org/Member/Mail/
dave: would be good to meet with
linked data best practice group
... need to look into overlap with locworld
... feisgiltt work on object models - not sure if there is a
good place to talk about that?
... web IDL topic
... other people to talk to: open annotation people
adjourned
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