<trackbot> Date: 17 March 2014

<richardschwerdtfeger> meeting: W3C WAI-PF ARIA Caucus

<richardschwerdtfeger> chair: Rich

<richardschwerdtfeger> meeting: W3C WAI-PF ARIA Caucus

<bgaraventa1979> I'm on, sorry was muted

<richardschwerdtfeger> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2014Mar/0061.html

<richardschwerdtfeger> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/648

<Zakim> jcraig, you wanted to propose a W3C Note declaring how ARIA 1.0 role attribute can be used validly with epub-namespaced value tokens and to e.g. role="epub:chapter region" and to

<jcraig> e.g. role="epub:chapter region"

<jcraig> role="chapter region"

<richardschwerdtfeger> <section role="chapter">

<jcraig> role="epub-chapter region"

<jcraig> <section role="epub-chapter">

<richardschwerdtfeger> scribe: Joanie

<richardschwerdtfeger> scribe: Rich

Expanding the role attribute value beyond ARIA

<jcraig> ACTION: jcraig to write a W3C Note explaining how epub-prefixed roles can be used already in ARIA 1.0 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/03/17-aria-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1401 - Write a w3c note explaining how epub-prefixed roles can be used already in aria 1.0 [on James Craig - due 2014-03-24].

<richardschwerdtfeger> RESOLUTION: James Craig to write a draft note describing process and methodology for providing new role values not yet in ARIA

<janina> scribe: janina

<clown> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg/2014Mar/0071.html

rs: Jon should be here when we discuss his suggestions ...

Topic Issue-523

<jcraig> Issue-523?

<trackbot> Issue-523 -- searchbox/searchfield role which is a subrole of textbox/textfield -- open

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/523

rs: Do we want role for searchbox (or search-field)?

<clown> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/roles#search

jd: Yes

jc: Yes

rs: A good shortname?

jc: SearchField ... even if inconsistent with TextBox

jn: SearchText //

js: I hear the text of the string being searched for when I hear "Search Text"
... Not the container where this is all going on

<clown> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/roles#textbox

<Birkir> Greetings everyone. Unable to join by phone today due to inclement weather in the D.C area (and being at home with a lot of kids). I plan to become active and join every meeting starting with the next. Hope to see many of you at CSUN

jn: Plain text in HTML ...

jc: HTML has auto completes, so like combo
... Want "search field" to be more specific to intended behavior

jn: Apple and Google are type=text, not type=search

jc: Wonder if crossbrowser issue?
... Does IE render type=search appropriately?

[crickets]

cs: Unsure

clown: Apple has type=text, plus all kinds of ARIA, including role=combobox

cs: Bing is type=text, probably for legacy support

rs: Could have a popup of somekind

jc: developer.apple.com uses type=search, but no autocomplete
... Could consider whether combox should be determined on its attribs, not the role

<jcraig> type="search" exposed on AX API as AXRole = AXTextfield:AXSearchField

<jcraig> a combobox type="search" could be exposed on AX API as AXRole = AXComboBox:AXSearchField

rs: We could create a relationship? So to indicate combobox?

jc: Similar what cyns calls patterns, what IndieUI calls actions, and what we've referred to a behaviors. It's about what the element supports rather than the role.
... More tied to what this particular element supports

rs: Guess not a quickie!
... Table this to next week ...

<jcraig> issue-605?

<trackbot> issue-605 -- menuitem role does not allow use of aria-selected -- open

<trackbot> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/track/issues/605

[Clarification that agenda is inaccurate -- we're not proposing removing selectability ]

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Found Date: 17 Mar 2014
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