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13:59:38 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/09/19-xhtml-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2007/09/19-xhtml-irc ←
13:59:54 <Steven> zakim, this will be xhtml
Steven Pemberton: zakim, this will be xhtml ←
13:59:54 <Zakim> ok, Steven; I see IA_XHTML2()10:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Steven; I see IA_XHTML2()10:00AM scheduled to start in 1 minute ←
14:00:08 <Steven> Meeting: XHTML2 WG Weekly Teleconference
14:00:12 <Steven> Chair: Steven
14:00:38 <Steven> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Sep/0010
14:00:48 <Steven> Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Sep/0010
Steven Pemberton: Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Sep/0010 ←
14:00:57 <alessio> hallo
Alessio Cartocci: hallo ←
14:01:31 <Steven> hi
Steven Pemberton: hi ←
14:02:12 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()10:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: IA_XHTML2()10:00AM has now started ←
14:02:18 <Zakim> +??P24
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P24 ←
14:02:29 <yamx> Zakim ??P24 is yamx
Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown yamx: Zakim ??P24 is yamx ←
14:03:12 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
Steven Pemberton: zakim, dial steven-617 ←
14:03:12 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Steven; the call is being made ←
14:03:17 <Zakim> +??P27
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P27 ←
14:03:23 <Steven> zakim, ??P24 is yamx
Steven Pemberton: zakim, ??P24 is yamx ←
14:03:23 <Zakim> +yamx; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +yamx; got it ←
14:03:34 <alessio> Zakim ??P27 is Alessio
Alessio Cartocci: Zakim ??P27 is Alessio ←
14:03:59 <Steven> zakim, drop steven
Steven Pemberton: zakim, drop steven ←
14:03:59 <Zakim> sorry, Steven, I do not see a party named 'steven'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Steven, I do not see a party named 'steven' ←
14:04:05 <Steven> zakim, dial steven-617
Steven Pemberton: zakim, dial steven-617 ←
14:04:05 <Zakim> ok, Steven; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, Steven; the call is being made ←
14:04:07 <Zakim> +Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: +Steven ←
14:04:13 <Zakim> +[IBM]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IBM] ←
14:04:35 <Steven> zakim, [ is Rich
Steven Pemberton: zakim, [ is Rich ←
14:04:35 <Zakim> +Rich; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Rich; got it ←
14:04:57 <alessio> zakim, ??P27 is Alessio
Alessio Cartocci: zakim, ??P27 is Alessio ←
14:04:57 <Zakim> +Alessio; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Alessio; got it ←
14:08:17 <markbirbeck> zakim, code?
Mark Birbeck: zakim, code? ←
14:08:17 <Zakim> the conference code is 94865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 94865 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.89.06.34.99 tel:+44.117.370.6152), markbirbeck ←
14:08:52 <Zakim> +markbirbeck
Zakim IRC Bot: +markbirbeck ←
14:09:12 <markbirbeck> zakim, who is here?
Mark Birbeck: zakim, who is here? ←
14:09:12 <Zakim> On the phone I see yamx, Steven, Alessio, Rich, markbirbeck
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see yamx, Steven, Alessio, Rich, markbirbeck ←
14:09:13 <Zakim> On IRC I see markbirbeck, Rich, alessio, Zakim, RRSAgent, yamx, Tina, Steven, Lachy, krijnh
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see markbirbeck, Rich, alessio, Zakim, RRSAgent, yamx, Tina, Steven, Lachy, krijnh ←
14:10:25 <Zakim> +McCarron
Zakim IRC Bot: +McCarron ←
14:10:41 <Zakim> + +046708aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +046708aaaa ←
14:10:52 <Tina> Zakim, aaa is Tina
Tina Holmboe: Zakim, aaa is Tina ←
14:10:53 <Zakim> sorry, Tina, I do not recognize a party named 'aaa'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Tina, I do not recognize a party named 'aaa' ←
14:11:08 <Tina> Zakim, 8aaa is Tina
Tina Holmboe: Zakim, 8aaa is Tina ←
14:11:08 <Zakim> sorry, Tina, I do not recognize a party named '8aaa'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Tina, I do not recognize a party named '8aaa' ←
14:11:40 <Tina> Zakim, ++46708aaa is Tina
Tina Holmboe: Zakim, ++46708aaa is Tina ←
14:11:40 <Zakim> sorry, Tina, I do not recognize a party named '++46708aaa'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Tina, I do not recognize a party named '++46708aaa' ←
14:11:51 <Steven> zakim, aaaa is Tina
Steven Pemberton: zakim, aaaa is Tina ←
14:11:51 <Zakim> sorry, Steven, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Steven, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa' ←
14:12:07 <Steven> zakim, +4 is Tina
Steven Pemberton: zakim, +4 is Tina ←
14:12:07 <Zakim> sorry, Steven, I do not recognize a party named '+4'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Steven, I do not recognize a party named '+4' ←
14:12:54 <alessio> Zakim, +46708aaa is Tina
Alessio Cartocci: Zakim, +46708aaa is Tina ←
14:12:54 <Zakim> sorry, alessio, I do not recognize a party named '+46708aaa'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, alessio, I do not recognize a party named '+46708aaa' ←
14:13:15 <Steven> zakim, who is here?
Steven Pemberton: zakim, who is here? ←
14:13:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see yamx, Steven, Alessio, Rich, markbirbeck, McCarron, +046708aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see yamx, Steven, Alessio, Rich, markbirbeck, McCarron, +046708aabb ←
14:13:17 <Zakim> On IRC I see markbirbeck, Rich, alessio, Zakim, RRSAgent, yamx, Tina, Steven, Lachy, krijnh
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see markbirbeck, Rich, alessio, Zakim, RRSAgent, yamx, Tina, Steven, Lachy, krijnh ←
14:13:24 <Tina> My phone connection is pretty bad; sorry about that. Minutes would be poor quality.
Tina Holmboe: My phone connection is pretty bad; sorry about that. Minutes would be poor quality. ←
14:13:31 <Tina> Zakim, mute me
Tina Holmboe: Zakim, mute me ←
14:13:31 <Zakim> sorry, Tina, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Tina, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you ←
14:13:54 <Steven> zakim, 46 is Tina
Steven Pemberton: zakim, 46 is Tina ←
14:13:54 <Zakim> sorry, Steven, I do not recognize a party named '46'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Steven, I do not recognize a party named '46' ←
14:14:04 <Steven> Scribe: Steven
(Scribe set to Steven Pemberton)
14:14:10 <Steven> Topic: Announcements
14:14:16 <alessio> zakim, +046708aabb is Tina
Alessio Cartocci: zakim, +046708aabb is Tina ←
14:14:16 <Zakim> +Tina; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Tina; got it ←
14:14:21 <Zakim> -McCarron
Zakim IRC Bot: -McCarron ←
14:14:30 <Tina> Zakim, mute me
Tina Holmboe: Zakim, mute me ←
14:14:30 <Zakim> Tina should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Tina should now be muted ←
14:14:42 <Zakim> +McCarron
Zakim IRC Bot: +McCarron ←
14:14:59 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to make a reg page for Boston FtF
ACTION: Steven to make a reg page for Boston FtF ←
14:15:50 <Steven> Steven: Note we are meeting WEed/Thu/Fri
Steven Pemberton: Note we are meeting WEed/Thu/Fri ←
14:16:27 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to ensure there is a chair for next week
ACTION: Steven to ensure there is a chair for next week ←
14:16:37 <Steven> Steven: I can't be here next week, at a W3C.de day
Steven Pemberton: I can't be here next week, at a W3C.de day ←
14:17:02 <Steven> Topic: Do not deprecate the profile attribute (request from GRDDL WG)
14:17:02 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Sep/0008
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xhtml2/2007Sep/0008 ←
14:19:25 <Steven> Steven: THe GRDDL people would rather we kept @profile
Steven Pemberton: The GRDDL people would rather we kept @profile ←
14:19:47 <Steven> ... but the problem is that even if we kept it, people would still be able to use rel="profile"
... but the problem is that even if we kept it, people would still be able to use rel="profile" ←
14:20:02 <Steven> Shane: I'm not willing to give up rel="profile"; that would be a mistake
Shane McCarron: I'm not willing to give up rel="profile"; that would be a mistake ←
14:20:30 <Steven> ... there is also a problem is they are coopting @profile
... there is also a problem is they are coopting @profile ←
14:21:28 <Steven> Steven: Do the different uses, like microformats and GRDDL bite each other?
Steven Pemberton: Do the different uses, like microformats and GRDDL bite each other? ←
14:21:40 <Steven> ... can they work in combination?
... can they work in combination? ←
14:22:17 <Steven> Mark: I think they have their own URL in the profile attribute as one of the urls
Mark Birbeck: I think they have their own URL in the profile attribute as one of the urls ←
14:22:30 <Steven> ... and then seeing that they know they need to process the document
... and then seeing that they know they need to process the document ←
14:22:59 <Steven> ... then they use rels (maybe) to discover the transformation
... then they use rels (maybe) to discover the transformation ←
14:23:25 <Steven> Mark: They use namespaces
Mark Birbeck: They use namespaces ←
14:23:44 <Steven> ... there's no use of profile at all in the example I'm looking at
... there's no use of profile at all in the example I'm looking at ←
14:23:47 <markbirbeck> http://www.w3.org/TR/grddl/#grddl-xml
Mark Birbeck: http://www.w3.org/TR/grddl/#grddl-xml ←
14:24:09 <Steven> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" ←
14:24:09 <Steven> xmlns:grddl='http://www.w3.org/2003/g/data-view#'
xmlns:grddl='http://www.w3.org/2003/g/data-view#' ←
14:24:09 <Steven> grddl:transformation="glean_title.xsl
grddl:transformation="glean_title.xsl ←
14:24:09 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/getAuthor.xsl"
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/grddl-wg/td/getAuthor.xsl" ←
14:24:09 <Steven> >
> ←
14:24:10 <Steven> <head>
<head> ←
14:25:02 <Steven> (2. Adding GRDDL to well-formed XML)
(2. Adding GRDDL to well-formed XML) ←
14:25:18 <Steven> Mark: It just happens that they used xhtml for their xml
Mark Birbeck: It just happens that they used xhtml for their xml ←
14:25:33 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/TR/grddl/#grddl-xhtml
http://www.w3.org/TR/grddl/#grddl-xhtml ←
14:25:43 <Steven> 4. Using GRDDL with valid XHTML
4. Using GRDDL with valid XHTML ←
14:25:57 <Steven> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"> ←
14:25:57 <Steven> <head profile="http://www.w3.org/2003/g/data-view">
<head profile="http://www.w3.org/2003/g/data-view"> ←
14:26:08 <Steven> <link rel="transformation"
<link rel="transformation" ←
14:26:08 <Steven> href="http://www.w3.org/2000/06/dc-extract/dc-extract.xsl" />
href="http://www.w3.org/2000/06/dc-extract/dc-extract.xsl" /> ←
14:27:05 <Steven> SHane: If we were nice, we would add 'transformation' to our list of rels
Shane McCarron: If we were nice, we would add 'transformation' to our list of rels ←
14:27:08 <Steven> Steven: Good idea
Steven Pemberton: Good idea ←
14:27:25 <Steven> ... and @grddly:transformation to the html element
... and @grddly:transformation to the html element ←
14:29:07 <Steven> Steven: WHy not use the grddl namespace declaration to detext a grddl document?
Steven Pemberton: WHy not use the grddl namespace declaration to detext a grddl document? ←
14:29:39 <Steven> Mark: At the least we should be saying that profile is too flaky
Mark Birbeck: At the least we should be saying that profile is too flaky ←
14:30:01 <Steven> ... it doesn't give you the connection between the profile url and the rel values
... it doesn't give you the connection between the profile url and the rel values ←
14:30:12 <Steven> ... it doesn't give you anything actually
... it doesn't give you anything actually ←
14:30:24 <Steven> Shane: We ought to work with them to produce a rel="grddl"
Shane McCarron: We ought to have to work with them to produce a rel="grddl" ←
14:30:37 <Steven> s/ought/ought to have/
14:30:46 <Steven> Shane: But it is already a Rec
Shane McCarron: But it is already a Rec ←
14:31:01 <Steven> Mark: Are we going to preserve this in XHTML2
Mark Birbeck: Are we going to preserve this in XHTML2 ←
14:31:10 <Steven> ... they argue yes for backwards compatibility
... they argue yes for backwards compatibility ←
14:31:17 <Steven> ... but it is not an issue really
... but it is not an issue really ←
14:31:31 <Steven> SHane: Let me play devil's advocate
Shane McCarron: Let me play devil's advocate ←
14:31:50 <Steven> ... they want the same processor to work on HTML and XHTML2
... they want the same processor to work on HTML and XHTML2 ←
14:31:58 <Steven> s/SHane/Shane/G
14:32:18 <Steven> Mark: But other document types don't have the profile attribute
Mark Birbeck: But other document types don't have the profile attribute ←
14:32:21 <Steven> ... why should we?
... why should we? ←
14:32:41 <Steven> ... We should use the other technique in XHTML2
... We should use the other technique in XHTML2 ←
14:33:19 <Steven> ... We shoukld reply "Given you have another mechanism, why should we use the legacy mechanism, which is falky anyway?"
... We shoukld reply "Given you have another mechanism, why should we use the legacy mechanism, which is falky anyway?" ←
14:33:54 <Steven> Shane: Say it in a different way. "Hey, we are generic XML, and we'll even build a GRDDL module for you, so you can use the generic mechanism"
Shane McCarron: Say it in a different way. "Hey, we are generic XML, and we'll even build a GRDDL module for you, so you can use the generic mechanism" ←
14:34:09 <Steven> Mark: We need to think about this for RDFa too
Mark Birbeck: We need to think about this for RDFa too ←
14:34:42 <Steven> Shane: Since rdfa takes a CURIE in rel, it just works
Shane McCarron: Since rdfa takes a CURIE in rel, it just works ←
14:34:59 <Steven> ... you have to devclare the GRDDL namespace, but we do that anyway
... you have to devclare the GRDDL namespace, but they do that anyway ←
14:35:03 <Steven> s/we/they/
14:35:34 <Steven> Mark: And in XHTML+RDFa they should be using the generic method too
Mark Birbeck: And in XHTML+RDFa they should be using the generic method too ←
14:35:46 <Steven> ... rel="grddl:transformation"
... rel="grddl:transformation" ←
14:37:05 <Steven> Steven: But isn't their pain point that they want to be able to identify a GRDDLE doc from the root, or otherwsie head element
Steven Pemberton: But isn't their pain point that they want to be able to identify a GRDDLE doc from the root, or otherwsie head element ←
14:37:18 <Steven> Shane: THe GRDDL namespace should be good enough for them
Shane McCarron: The GRDDL namespace should be good enough for them ←
14:37:26 <Steven> s/THe/The/G
14:37:29 <Zakim> +ShaneM
Zakim IRC Bot: +ShaneM ←
14:37:33 <Zakim> -McCarron
Zakim IRC Bot: -McCarron ←
14:38:02 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to reply to GRDDL people about techniques for identifying GRDDL docs
ACTION: Steven to reply to GRDDL people about techniques for identifying GRDDL docs ←
14:38:23 <Steven> Missing element declarations from XHTML Modularization 1.1
Missing element declarations from XHTML Modularization 1.1 ←
14:38:27 <Steven> Topic: Missing element declarations from XHTML Modularization 1.1
14:38:33 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2007JulSep/0029
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2007JulSep/0029 ←
14:39:41 <Steven> Shane: These are defined as far as I know. Let me check
Shane McCarron: These are defined as far as I know. Let me check ←
14:39:52 <Steven> ... Yes, in the frame module
... Yes, in the frame module ←
14:40:27 <Steven> Mark: Maybe they are missing in the schema, but not in the spec
Mark Birbeck: Maybe they are missing in the schema, but not in the spec ←
14:40:33 <Steven> Shane: Oh, he's right
Shane McCarron: Oh, he's right ←
14:40:50 <Steven> ... we need to reissue ruby
... we need to reissue ruby ←
14:40:53 <Steven> ... oh wait
... oh wait ←
14:40:57 <Steven> ... they are in here too
... they are in here too ←
14:41:20 <Steven> ... oh, he maybe right
... oh, he maybe right ←
14:41:36 <Steven> ACTION: Shane to fix missing elements in M12N
ACTION: Shane to fix missing elements in M12N ←
14:41:46 <Steven> ACTION: SHane to reply to ht
ACTION: Shane to reply to ht ←
14:42:07 <Steven> ACTION: Group to reissue Ruby with schema additions
ACTION: Group to reissue Ruby with schema additions ←
14:42:32 <Steven> Topic: XHTML Basic 1.1 DTD declares hr but it cannot be included in any element
14:42:32 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2007JulSep/0030
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2007JulSep/0030 ←
14:43:40 <Steven> Steven: The abstract says that the poresentation module is included
Steven Pemberton: The abstract says that the poresentation module is included ←
14:43:55 <Steven> Shane: ANd we list hr too
Shane McCarron: ANd we list hr too ←
14:44:49 <Steven> <!ENTITY % InlPres.class
<!ENTITY % InlPres.class ←
14:44:49 <Steven> "| %tt.qname; | %i.qname; | %b.qname; | %big.qname;
"| %tt.qname; | %i.qname; | %b.qname; | %big.qname; ←
14:44:49 <Steven> | %small.qname; | %sub.qname; | %sup.qname;" >
| %small.qname; | %sub.qname; | %sup.qname;" > ←
14:44:50 <ShaneM> b, big, hr, i, small, sub, sup, tt
Shane McCarron: b, big, hr, i, small, sub, sup, tt ←
14:46:18 <Steven> Shane: I'll link it in
Shane McCarron: I'll link it in ←
14:46:28 <Steven> Steven: This will have to be a CR comment
Steven Pemberton: This will have to be a CR comment ←
14:46:40 <Steven> ACTION: Shane to link hr into Basic 1.1
ACTION: Shane to link hr into Basic 1.1 ←
14:46:57 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to reply to hr comment, and make it a CR comment
ACTION: Steven to reply to hr comment, and make it a CR comment ←
14:47:33 <Steven> Steven: Didn't you have a testfest revently Yam?
Steven Pemberton: Didn't you have a testfest revently Yam? ←
14:48:06 <Steven> Yam: Starting tomorrow
Toshihiko Yamakami: Starting tomorrow ←
14:48:51 <Steven> ... and November in Slovenia
... and November in Slovenia ←
14:48:58 <Steven> ... but I'll check
... but I'll check ←
14:49:26 <Steven> Topic: Error in http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/REC-xhtml1-20020801
14:49:26 <Steven> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2007JulSep/0031
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-html-editor/2007JulSep/0031 ←
14:49:58 <Steven> http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/REC-xhtml1-20020801/#h-4.8
http://www.w3.org/TR/2002/REC-xhtml1-20020801/#h-4.8 ←
14:51:58 <markbirbeck> Going back to GRDDL, the spec says "This method [using @profile] is suitable for use with valid XHTML documents which are constrained by an XML DTD." In other words they are saying that this is _not_ the preferred method.
Mark Birbeck: Going back to GRDDL, the spec says "This method [using @profile] is suitable for use with valid XHTML documents which are constrained by an XML DTD." In other words they are saying that this is _not_ the preferred method. ←
14:52:07 <markbirbeck> o it seems legitimate to me to say that we feel no need to try to support the @profile technique, in situations where the @xmlns technique is supported.
Mark Birbeck: So it seems legitimate to me to say that we feel no need to try to support the @profile technique, in situations where the @xmlns technique is supported. ←
14:52:07 <Steven> Shane: Well, this is a technique to get round bugs in browsers
Shane McCarron: Well, this is a technique to get round bugs in browsers ←
14:52:16 <Steven> ... we shouldn't document that
... we shouldn't document that ←
14:52:22 <markbirbeck> s/o it/So it/
14:52:23 <Steven> ... we use this technique too
... we use this technique too ←
14:52:30 <Steven> ... but it shouldn't be part of a spec
... but it shouldn't be part of a spec ←
14:52:39 <yamx> OMA test fest 20 was from Sep 7 to Sep 14, so I will check the test reports.
Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Unknown yamx: OMA test fest 20 was from Sep 7 to Sep 14, so I will check the test reports. ←
14:53:06 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to reply to script+cdata mail, saying we don't want to document it
ACTION: Steven to reply to script+cdata mail, saying we don't want to document it ←
14:53:49 <Steven> Topic: GRDDL again
14:54:13 <Steven> Mark: THeir doc does seem to say that the rpofile technique is a fallback when the XML technique isn't suitable
Mark Birbeck: Their doc does seem to say that the profile technique is a fallback when the XML technique isn't suitable ←
14:54:20 <Steven> ... so that backs up our position
... so that backs up our position ←
14:54:26 <Steven> s/TH/Th/
14:54:34 <ShaneM> s/rpofile/profile/
14:54:35 <markbirbeck> For example: "To accomodate the DTD-based syntax of XHTML[XHTML], which precludes using attributes from foreign namespaces, we use http://www.w3.org/2003/g/data-view as a metadata profile (cf. section 7.4.4.3 Meta data profiles of [HTML4])."
Mark Birbeck: For example: "To accomodate the DTD-based syntax of XHTML[XHTML], which precludes using attributes from foreign namespaces, we use http://www.w3.org/2003/g/data-view as a metadata profile (cf. section 7.4.4.3 Meta data profiles of [HTML4])." ←
14:55:11 <Steven> Topic: role
14:55:45 <Steven> Steven: I have requested a loast call publication
Steven Pemberton: I have requested a loast call publication ←
14:55:53 <Steven> ... awaiting a reply about a suitable date
... awaiting a reply about a suitable date ←
14:56:04 <Steven> ... when that comes in, we can publish with that date
... when that comes in, we can publish with that date ←
14:57:05 <Steven> Topic: Modularization
14:57:31 <Steven> Steven: We have gone through last call, so we should move to CR with this
Steven Pemberton: We have gone through last call, so we should move to CR with this ←
14:57:40 <Steven> ... do we have a DoC?
... do we have a DoC? ←
14:57:57 <Steven> ACTION: Shane to ensure we have a M12N DoC
ACTION: Shane to ensure we have a M12N DoC ←
14:58:05 <Steven> ACTION: Steven to take M12N to CR
ACTION: Steven to take M12N to CR ←
14:59:16 <Zakim> -ShaneM
Zakim IRC Bot: -ShaneM ←
14:59:17 <Zakim> -markbirbeck
Zakim IRC Bot: -markbirbeck ←
14:59:18 <Zakim> -Rich
Zakim IRC Bot: -Rich ←
14:59:20 <Zakim> -yamx
Scribe problem: the name 'yamx' does not match any of the 19 active names. Either change the name used, or request the list of names be altered.Active names: Alessio Cartocci Alexander Graf Elias Torres John Kugelman Luca Mascaro Mark Birbeck Masataka Yakura Michael Rawling Richard Schwerdtfeger Roland Merrick Sebastian Schnitzenbaumer Shane McCarron Steven Pemberton Susan Borgrink Tina Holmboe Toshihiko Yamakami Zakim IRC Bot Trackbot IRC Bot RRSAgent IRC Bot
Zakim IRC Bot: -yamx ←
14:59:21 <Zakim> -Steven
Zakim IRC Bot: -Steven ←
14:59:22 <Steven> ADJOURN
ADJOURN ←
14:59:22 <Zakim> -Alessio
Zakim IRC Bot: -Alessio ←
14:59:22 <Zakim> -Tina
Zakim IRC Bot: -Tina ←
14:59:24 <Zakim> IA_XHTML2()10:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: IA_XHTML2()10:00AM has ended ←
14:59:25 <Zakim> Attendees were yamx, Steven, [IBM], Rich, Alessio, markbirbeck, McCarron, +046708aaaa, Tina, ShaneM
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were yamx, Steven, [IBM], Rich, Alessio, markbirbeck, McCarron, +046708aaaa, Tina, ShaneM ←
14:59:29 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
rrsagent, make minutes ←
14:59:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/09/19-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/09/19-xhtml-minutes.html Steven ←
14:59:47 <Steven> rrsagent, make log public
rrsagent, make log public ←
14:59:56 <Steven> rrsagent, make minutes
rrsagent, make minutes ←
14:59:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/09/19-xhtml-minutes.html Steven
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2007/09/19-xhtml-minutes.html Steven ←
15:11:29 <markbirbeck> zakim, i am aadd
(No events recorded for 11 minutes)
Mark Birbeck: zakim, i am aadd ←
15:11:29 <Zakim> sorry, markbirbeck, I do not see a party named 'aadd'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, markbirbeck, I do not see a party named 'aadd' ←
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