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Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference

Minutes of 03 December 2012

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Andy Seaborne, Arnaud Le Hors, Ashok Malhotra, Bart van Leeuwen, Eric Prud'hommeaux, Kevin Page, Roger Menday, Ruben Verborgh, Sandro Hawke, Steve Battle, Steve Speicher, Ted Thibodeau, Yves Lafon
Chair
Arnaud Le Hors
Scribe
Roger Menday
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. minutes 26 November 2012 of approved link
  2. close issue-2 link
  3. close issue-3 link
  4. close issue-7 link
  5. HTTP-in-RDF and EARL will be used for our test suite link
  6. Move 1.4.11 to the access control UC&R doc link
Topics
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14:57:31 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be LDP

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14:57:32 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
14:57:32 <trackbot> Date: 03 December 2012
14:58:00 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has now started

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14:58:06 <Zakim> +Ruben

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14:58:43 <Yves> regrets for me, on another call

Yves Lafon: regrets for me, on another call

15:00:02 <Zakim> +[IBM]

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15:00:13 <Zakim> +Arnaud

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15:00:16 <SteveS> Zakim, [IBM] is me

Steve Speicher: Zakim, [IBM] is me

15:00:16 <Zakim> +SteveS; got it

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15:00:32 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software

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15:00:40 <MacTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me

15:00:40 <Zakim> +MacTed; got it

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15:00:41 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me

15:00:41 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted

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15:01:20 <Zakim> +??P3

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15:01:32 <Zakim> -??P3

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15:01:54 <Zakim> +Ashok_Malhotra

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15:02:14 <Zakim> +??P39

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15:02:21 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??P39 is me

Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??P39 is me

15:02:21 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it

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15:02:26 <MacTed> Zakim, who's here?

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, who's here?

15:02:26 <Zakim> On the phone I see Ruben, SteveS, Arnaud, MacTed (muted), Ashok_Malhotra, BartvanLeeuwen

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Ruben, SteveS, Arnaud, MacTed (muted), Ashok_Malhotra, BartvanLeeuwen

15:02:28 <Zakim> On IRC I see Ashok_Malhotra, Ruben1, Zakim, RRSAgent, stevebattle, BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, deiu, MacTed, SteveS, AndyS, webr3, gavinc, Arnaud, sandro, Yves, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Ashok_Malhotra, Ruben1, Zakim, RRSAgent, stevebattle, BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, deiu, MacTed, SteveS, AndyS, webr3, gavinc, Arnaud, sandro, Yves, trackbot

15:03:03 <AndyS> Partial apologies - IRC only at the moment.

Andy Seaborne: Partial apologies - IRC only at the moment.

15:03:40 <Zakim> + +44.208.573.aaaa

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15:04:04 <Arnaud> andy, we've got 3 issues pending review for you

Arnaud Le Hors: andy, we've got 3 issues pending review for you

15:04:09 <Arnaud> have you seen this?

Arnaud Le Hors: have you seen this?

15:04:25 <Zakim> +[GVoice]

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15:04:44 <Zakim> +Sandro

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15:05:34 <Arnaud> zakim, who's here?

Arnaud Le Hors: zakim, who's here?

15:05:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see Ruben, SteveS, Arnaud, MacTed (muted), Ashok_Malhotra, BartvanLeeuwen, +44.208.573.aaaa, ericP, Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Ruben, SteveS, Arnaud, MacTed (muted), Ashok_Malhotra, BartvanLeeuwen, +44.208.573.aaaa, ericP, Sandro

15:05:36 <Zakim> On IRC I see rogerm, ericP, Ashok_Malhotra, Ruben1, Zakim, RRSAgent, stevebattle, BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, deiu, MacTed, SteveS, AndyS, webr3, gavinc, Arnaud, sandro, Yves,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see rogerm, ericP, Ashok_Malhotra, Ruben1, Zakim, RRSAgent, stevebattle, BartvanLeeuwen, bhyland, deiu, MacTed, SteveS, AndyS, webr3, gavinc, Arnaud, sandro, Yves,

15:05:36 <Zakim> ... trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... trackbot

15:06:27 <MacTed> Zakim. aaaa is rogerm

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim. aaaa is rogerm

15:06:38 <MacTed> Zakim, aaaa is rogerm

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, aaaa is rogerm

15:06:39 <Zakim> +rogerm; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +rogerm; got it

15:06:41 <MacTed> :-)

Ted Thibodeau: :-)

15:06:54 <AndyS> Arnaud - numbers? pointers? I see 15 and 36 as open.  No actions outstanding.

Andy Seaborne: Arnaud - numbers? pointers? I see 15 and 36 as open. No actions outstanding.

15:07:01 <Arnaud> chair: Arnaud
15:07:01 <Arnaud> scribe: rogerm

(Scribe set to Roger Menday)

<rogerm> topic: Minutes of 26 November 2012

1. Minutes of 26 November 2012

<rogerm> Arnaud: has anyone looked at them?

Arnaud Le Hors: has anyone looked at them?

15:08:29 <Ruben> yes, approve

Ruben Verborgh: yes, approve

15:08:35 <SteveS> looked at and approve

Steve Speicher: looked at and approve

15:08:43 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1

Bart van Leeuwen: +1

15:09:21 <rogerm> resolved: minutes 26 November 2012 of approved

RESOLVED: minutes 26 November 2012 of approved

15:10:59 <rogerm> 10th and 17th December are the remaining calls this year.

10th and 17th December are the remaining calls this year.

15:11:13 <rogerm> topic: Actions and Issues

2. Actions and Issues

<rogerm> subtopic: Actions

2.1. Actions

<rogerm> Arnaud: anyone wants to claim victory on any of the open issues?

Arnaud Le Hors: anyone wants to claim victory on any of the open issues?

<rogerm> ... hearing none, let's move on to issues

... hearing none, let's move on to issues

15:14:09 <rogerm> subtopic: Issue-2 and Issue-3

2.2. ISSUE-2 and ISSUE-3

15:11:14 <Zakim> +SteveBattle

Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveBattle

15:11:46 <Arnaud> andys, issues pending review: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/pendingreview

Arnaud Le Hors: andys, issues pending review: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/pendingreview

15:12:08 <Zakim> +??P52

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P52

15:12:09 <Arnaud> those three are really for you to confirm it's ok to close

Arnaud Le Hors: those three are really for you to confirm it's ok to close

15:12:37 <krp> zakim, ??P52 is me

Kevin Page: zakim, ??P52 is me

15:12:38 <Zakim> +krp; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +krp; got it

15:12:41 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

15:12:47 <AndyS> zakim, IPCaller is me

Andy Seaborne: zakim, IPCaller is me

15:12:47 <Zakim> +AndyS; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AndyS; got it

15:12:57 <rogerm> issues 2,3 and 7 are pending review

issues 2,3 and 7 are pending review

15:13:34 <SteveS> ISSUE-2 ?

Steve Speicher: ISSUE-2 ?

15:13:34 <trackbot> ISSUE-2 -- Do BPResource versions get managed in a systematic, discoverable way? -- pending review

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-2 -- Do BPResource versions get managed in a systematic, discoverable way? -- pending review

15:13:34 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/2

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/2

15:13:39 <SteveS> ISSUE-3 ?

Steve Speicher: ISSUE-3 ?

15:13:39 <trackbot> ISSUE-3 -- Do BPContainer versions get managed in a systematic, discoverable way? -- pending review

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-3 -- Do BPContainer versions get managed in a systematic, discoverable way? -- pending review

15:13:39 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/3

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/3

<rogerm> Arnaud: andys, are you ok with the decision to close these issues on the basis that LDP won't address them?

Arnaud Le Hors: andys, are you ok with the decision to close these issues on the basis that LDP won't address them?

<rogerm> andys: yes, that's reasonable

Andy Seaborne: yes, that's reasonable

15:14:42 <Arnaud> RESOLVED: close issue-2

RESOLVED: close ISSUE-2

15:14:42 <Arnaud> close issue-2

Arnaud Le Hors: close ISSUE-2

15:14:42 <trackbot> ISSUE-2 Do BPResource versions get managed in a systematic, discoverable way? closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-2 Do BPResource versions get managed in a systematic, discoverable way? closed

15:14:48 <Arnaud> RESOLVED: close issue-3

RESOLVED: close ISSUE-3

15:14:48 <Arnaud> close issue-3

Arnaud Le Hors: close ISSUE-3

15:14:48 <trackbot> ISSUE-3 Do BPContainer versions get managed in a systematic, discoverable way? closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-3 Do BPContainer versions get managed in a systematic, discoverable way? closed

<rogerm> andys: can we please have an explanation of why we are closing them inserted in tracker?

Andy Seaborne: can we please have an explanation of why we are closing them inserted in tracker?

<rogerm> Arnaud: yes, I'll make sure there is a note

Arnaud Le Hors: yes, I'll make sure there is a note

15:15:34 <rogerm> subtopic: Issue-7

2.3. ISSUE-7

15:15:34 <SteveS> ISSUE-7 ?

Steve Speicher: ISSUE-7 ?

15:15:34 <trackbot> ISSUE-7 -- What operations are permitted on containers and how do they get invoked? -- pending review

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-7 -- What operations are permitted on containers and how do they get invoked? -- pending review

15:15:34 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/7

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/7

15:16:12 <Zakim> -krp

Zakim IRC Bot: -krp

15:16:23 <SteveS> This might refresh AndyS memory on where this is left http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2012Nov/0079.html

Steve Speicher: This might refresh AndyS memory on where this is left http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ldp-wg/2012Nov/0079.html

15:17:09 <Zakim> +??P52

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P52

15:17:09 <rogerm> Arnaud: can we close issue 7 because the content is covered elsewhere?

Arnaud Le Hors: can we close ISSUE-7 because the content is covered elsewhere?

15:18:40 <rogerm> AndyS: a general model of the LDP framework would probably cover issue 7

Andy Seaborne: a general model of the LDP framework would probably cover ISSUE-7

<rogerm> ... we can reopen one if needed later on

... we can reopen one if needed later on

15:18:43 <Arnaud> resolved: close issue-7

RESOLVED: close ISSUE-7

15:18:48 <Arnaud> close issue-7

Arnaud Le Hors: close ISSUE-7

15:18:48 <trackbot> ISSUE-7 What operations are permitted on containers and how do they get invoked? closed

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-7 What operations are permitted on containers and how do they get invoked? closed

<rogerm> Arnaud: we also have some raised issues

Arnaud Le Hors: we also have some raised issues

15:19:29 <rogerm> subtopic: Issue-40

2.4. ISSUE-40

15:20:13 <Zakim> -??P52

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P52

15:20:26 <rogerm> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/40

http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/track/issues/40

<rogerm> Arnaud: this one looks like it's covered already but we'll wait for Henry to be on to close it

Arnaud Le Hors: this one looks like it's covered already but we'll wait for Henry to be on to close it

15:21:37 <Zakim> +??P52

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P52

15:21:55 <rogerm> subtopic: Issue-41

2.5. ISSUE-41

15:22:14 <rogerm> stevebattle: issue 40 and 41 overlap

Steve Battle: ISSUE-40 and 41 overlap

<rogerm> Arnaud: I think it differs in that it calls for several operations to be taken at the same time

Arnaud Le Hors: I think it differs in that it calls for several operations to be taken at the same time

<rogerm> ... but again let's wait to have John on the call to decide what to do with it

... but again let's wait to have John on the call to decide what to do with it

15:22:33 <AndyS> q+

Andy Seaborne: q+

15:22:53 <AndyS> q-

Andy Seaborne: q-

15:23:30 <rogerm> topic: Test suite and Validator

3. Test suite and Validator

15:23:49 <rogerm> Arnaud: today was deadline for making proposals on this.

Arnaud Le Hors: today was deadline for making proposals on this.

<rogerm> ... stevebattle added some requirement but otherwise it looks like we really only have one proposal

... stevebattle added some requirement but otherwise it looks like we really only have one proposal

15:24:06 <stevebattle> They represent the same use-cases but different scenarios - single v multiple attachments.

Steve Battle: They represent the same use-cases but different scenarios - single v multiple attachments.

15:26:36 <stevebattle> Do you know if Earl supports traceability?

Steve Battle: Do you know if Earl supports traceability?

15:27:07 <rogerm> http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Testing

http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Testing

15:27:11 <stevebattle>  traceability: RDF links from test cases to use-cases.

Steve Battle: traceability: RDF links from test cases to use-cases.

15:27:27 <rogerm> ericp: Earl is an RDF language. it is used in the W3C, more and more tools are being developed for it

Eric Prud'hommeaux: Earl is an RDF language. it is used in the W3C, more and more tools are being developed for it

15:28:02 <AndyS> EARL + RDF/SPARQL Manifest framework.

Andy Seaborne: EARL + RDF/SPARQL Manifest framework.

15:28:05 <stevebattle> The power of RDF!

Steve Battle: The power of RDF!

15:30:15 <stevebattle> I'd like to contribute test-cases (derived from use-case scenarios).

Steve Battle: I'd like to contribute test-cases (derived from use-case scenarios).

15:30:22 <rogerm> Arnaud: is Earl used in combination with HTTP-in-RDF vocab ?

Arnaud Le Hors: is Earl used in combination with HTTP-in-RDF vocab ?

<rogerm> steves: yes, that's my understanding

Steve Speicher: yes, that's my understanding

15:31:27 <rogerm> Arnaud: it would be great to have some examples of what the tests would actually look like.

Arnaud Le Hors: it would be great to have some examples of what the tests would actually look like.

<rogerm> ... I will follow up with Alexandre and see if he can give us some guidance

... I will follow up with Alexandre and see if he can give us some guidance

15:32:48 <Arnaud> q?

Arnaud Le Hors: q?

15:32:51 <Zakim> -??P52

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P52

15:33:01 <rogerm> q+

q+

15:33:13 <Arnaud> RESOLVED: HTTP-in-RDF and EARL will be used for our test suite

RESOLVED: HTTP-in-RDF and EARL will be used for our test suite

15:33:18 <Zakim> +??P52

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P52

<rogerm> Arnaud: regarding the validator, we will see later but sandro said the W3C might be able to host a validator for servers

Arnaud Le Hors: regarding the validator, we will see later but sandro said the W3C might be able to host a validator for servers

<rogerm> rogerm: what about validating clients?

Roger Menday: what about validating clients?

15:35:13 <Arnaud> ack rogerm

Arnaud Le Hors: ack rogerm

15:35:42 <rogerm> sandro: there is more experience around validating a server

Sandro Hawke: there is more experience around validating a server

15:36:35 <SteveS> q+

Steve Speicher: q+

15:36:46 <rogerm> sandro: another option is to download some client code to run locally

Sandro Hawke: another option is to download some client code to run locally

15:37:20 <Arnaud> ack steves

Arnaud Le Hors: ack steves

15:38:07 <rogerm> SteveS: maybe offer a reference server

Steve Speicher: maybe offer a reference server

15:39:10 <rogerm> topic: Use Cases & Requirements document

4. Use Cases & Requirements document

15:43:09 <rogerm> stevebattle: should security aspect be included in UC&R ?

Steve Battle: should security aspect be included in UC&R ?

15:43:10 <SteveS> Should we keep this section is the question: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Use_Cases_And_Requirements#LDP_and_Authentication.2FAuthorization

Steve Speicher: Should we keep this section is the question: http://www.w3.org/2012/ldp/wiki/Use_Cases_And_Requirements#LDP_and_Authentication.2FAuthorization

15:44:00 <SteveS> PROPOSAL: Move this to Access Control requirements wiki

PROPOSED: Move this to Access Control requirements wiki page

15:44:04 <rogerm> regarding UC&R, I will update the IaaS story

regarding UC&R, I will update the IaaS story

15:44:43 <SteveS> s/requirements wiki/requirements wiki page/
15:44:44 <Arnaud> RESOLVED: Move 1.4.11 to the access control UC&R doc

RESOLVED: Move 1.4.11 to the access control UC&R doc

15:45:38 <rogerm> Arnaud: who added the "data sharing" story ?

Arnaud Le Hors: who added the "data sharing" story ?

15:46:22 <rogerm> ... the default is to remove this story, unless someone claims ownership

... the default is to remove this story, unless someone claims ownership

15:47:01 <SteveS> believe that Christophe Gueret  owns the "data sharing" story

Steve Speicher: believe that Christophe Gueret owns the "data sharing" story

<rogerm> Arnaud: suggest the editors contact Christophe directly and inform him that we will drop his use case unless he provides some clarification

Arnaud Le Hors: suggest the editors contact Christophe directly and inform him that we will drop his use case unless he provides some clarification

<rogerm> stevebattle: ok, will do

Steve Battle: ok, will do

15:48:39 <Arnaud> q?

Arnaud Le Hors: q?

15:48:54 <rogerm> Arnaud: By next week (Dec 10th), the UC&R will be in good shape for review

Arnaud Le Hors: By next week (Dec 10th), the UC&R will be in good shape for review

15:49:05 <stevebattle> OK

Steve Battle: OK

15:52:24 <rogerm> topic: Specification

5. Specification

<rogerm> steves: working on it, have been busy with the UC&R, plan to make some proposal on the open issues

Steve Speicher: working on it, have been busy with the UC&R, plan to make some proposal on the open issues

15:52:32 <rogerm> topic: Open issues

6. Open issues

15:52:32 <rogerm> subtopic: Issue-37

6.1. ISSUE-37

15:53:24 <rogerm> steves: dret was going to create a wiki and draft some text about the model

Steve Speicher: dret was going to create a wiki and draft some text about the model

15:53:24 <rogerm> ... I haven't seen it yet, will follow up with him

... I haven't seen it yet, will follow up with him

15:54:21 <stevebattle> q+

Steve Battle: q+

15:54:40 <rogerm> Arnaud: what is the outstanding issue which has the largest potential impact on the spec ?

Arnaud Le Hors: what is the outstanding issue which has the largest potential impact on the spec ?

<rogerm> steves: not sure there is really one

Steve Speicher: not sure there is really one

<rogerm> Arnaud: I think issue-37

Arnaud Le Hors: I think ISSUE-37

15:54:42 <stevebattle> q-

Steve Battle: q-

15:54:48 <Zakim> -??P52

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P52

15:55:00 <stevebattle> I concur - the aggregation/composition issues are critical

Steve Battle: I concur - the aggregation/composition issues are critical

15:55:02 <BartvanLeeuwen> q+

Bart van Leeuwen: q+

15:55:11 <Zakim> +??P40

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P40

15:55:16 <Arnaud> ack bart

Arnaud Le Hors: ack bart

15:56:06 <rogerm> Bart: do/can resources have a link *back* to the container they are in ?

Bart van Leeuwen: do/can resources have a link *back* to the container they are in ?

15:56:42 <rogerm> the current spec does not mandate this

the current spec does not mandate this

15:56:47 <rogerm> thanks

thanks

<rogerm> Arnaud: current spec does not mandate this

Arnaud Le Hors: current spec does not mandate this

<rogerm> steves: application may choose to have them

Steve Speicher: application may choose to have them

15:57:25 <MacTed> no mandate, +1.  option to do so, +1.

Ted Thibodeau: no mandate, +1. option to do so, +1.

<rogerm> steves: believe Issue-21 is about that, although it's against the UC&R

Steve Speicher: believe ISSUE-21 is about that, although it's against the UC&R

15:57:36 <rogerm> subtopic: Issue-21

6.2. ISSUE-21

15:57:45 <MacTed> big difference between "must have" and "can have"...

Ted Thibodeau: big difference between "must have" and "can have"...

15:58:53 <Arnaud> q?

Arnaud Le Hors: q?

15:58:58 <stevebattle> I raised it against UC&R because it stemmed from there.

Steve Battle: I raised it against UC&R because it stemmed from there.

15:59:12 <stevebattle> It is *really* an issue on the spec.

Steve Battle: It is *really* an issue on the spec.

15:59:24 <rogerm> SteveS: what is the motivating use-case for the link-back requirement ?

Steve Speicher: what is the motivating use-case for the link-back requirement ?

<rogerm> bart: ok, will look into it

Bart van Leeuwen: ok, will look into it

15:59:49 <MacTed> Zakim, unmute me

Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, unmute me

15:59:49 <Zakim> MacTed should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: MacTed should no longer be muted

15:59:54 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra

Zakim IRC Bot: -Ashok_Malhotra

16:00:12 <krp> zakim, ??P40 is me

Kevin Page: zakim, ??P40 is me

16:00:12 <Zakim> +krp; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +krp; got it

16:00:13 <MacTed> think about chapters in a book...

Ted Thibodeau: think about chapters in a book...

16:00:24 <MacTed> pictures in an album...

Ted Thibodeau: pictures in an album...

16:01:16 <rogerm> Arnaud: need people to propose solutions to the issues which have been raised ... !

Arnaud Le Hors: need people to propose solutions to the issues which have been raised ... !

<rogerm> ... default will be to close issues accepting that they are not addressed by the spec

... default will be to close issues accepting that they are not addressed by the spec

<rogerm> ... if anyone cares about an issue they should make a proposal on how to resolve it

... if anyone cares about an issue they should make a proposal on how to resolve it

16:01:43 <Arnaud> q?

Arnaud Le Hors: q?

16:01:46 <rogerm> q+

q+

16:02:32 <Arnaud> ack rogerm

Arnaud Le Hors: ack rogerm

<rogerm> rogerm: interested in issue-37

Roger Menday: interested in ISSUE-37

<rogerm> Arnaud: thanks, but we already have dret and steves working on it

Arnaud Le Hors: thanks, but we already have dret and steves working on it

<rogerm> rogerm: think once we solve issue-37 the rest will be easier

Roger Menday: think once we solve ISSUE-37 the rest will be easier

16:02:56 <stevebattle> I would send your ideas to Erik, Roger.

Steve Battle: I would send your ideas to Erik, Roger.

16:03:14 <Zakim> -MacTed

Zakim IRC Bot: -MacTed

16:03:20 <stevebattle> Bye

Steve Battle: Bye

16:03:22 <Zakim> -Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro

16:03:22 <Arnaud> MEETING ADJOURNED

Arnaud Le Hors: MEETING ADJOURNED

16:03:23 <BartvanLeeuwen> bye

Bart van Leeuwen: bye

16:03:23 <Zakim> -SteveS

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16:03:23 <Zakim> -rogerm

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