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<sandro> Guest: Tom (TomDN) De Nies
14:00:29 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/07/23-ldp-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2012/07/23-ldp-irc ←
14:00:40 <sandro> trackbot, start meeting
Sandro Hawke: trackbot, start meeting ←
14:00:42 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs 181
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs 181 ←
14:00:43 <Ruben> zakim, who is here
Ruben Verborgh: zakim, who is here ←
14:00:43 <Zakim> Ruben, you need to end that query with '?'
Zakim IRC Bot: Ruben, you need to end that query with '?' ←
14:00:44 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be ←
14:00:45 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot ←
14:00:45 <trackbot> Meeting: Linked Data Platform (LDP) Working Group Teleconference
14:00:45 <trackbot> Date: 23 July 2012
14:00:52 <Ruben> zakim, who is here?
Ruben Verborgh: zakim, who is here? ←
14:00:52 <Zakim> sorry, Ruben, I don't know what conference this is
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Ruben, I don't know what conference this is ←
14:00:54 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Arnaud, Ruben, domel, dret, svillata, betehess, MacTed, SteveS, trackbot, sandro, Yves, ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, Arnaud, Ruben, domel, dret, svillata, betehess, MacTed, SteveS, trackbot, sandro, Yves, ericP ←
14:00:57 <sandro> RRSAgent, make logs public
Sandro Hawke: RRSAgent, make logs public ←
14:02:14 <cygri> zakim, who is on the phone?
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:02:14 <Zakim> sorry, cygri, I don't know what conference this is
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, cygri, I don't know what conference this is ←
14:02:21 <Zakim> On IRC I see cygri, krp, steve, rgarcia, mkerrin, RRSAgent, Zakim, Arnaud, Ruben, domel, dret, svillata, betehess, MacTed, SteveS, trackbot, sandro, Yves, ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see cygri, krp, steve, rgarcia, mkerrin, RRSAgent, Zakim, Arnaud, Ruben, domel, dret, svillata, betehess, MacTed, SteveS, trackbot, sandro, Yves, ericP ←
14:02:21 <MacTed> trackbot, code?
Ted Thibodeau: trackbot, code? ←
14:02:21 <trackbot> Sorry, MacTed, I don't understand 'trackbot, code?'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, MacTed, I don't understand 'trackbot, code?'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help ←
14:02:28 <sandro> zakim, who is making noise?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is making noise? ←
14:02:28 <Zakim> sorry, sandro, I don't know what conference this is
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, sandro, I don't know what conference this is ←
14:02:29 <MacTed> Zakim, code
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, code ←
14:02:32 <Zakim> I don't understand 'code', MacTed
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'code', MacTed ←
14:02:33 <MacTed> Zakim, code?
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, code? ←
14:02:35 <sandro> zakim, this is ldp
Sandro Hawke: zakim, this is ldp ←
14:02:37 <Zakim> sorry, MacTed, I don't know what conference this is
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, MacTed, I don't know what conference this is ←
14:02:39 <Zakim> ok, sandro; that matches SW_LDP()10:00AM
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, sandro; that matches SW_LDP()10:00AM ←
14:02:43 <sandro> zakim, who is making noise?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is making noise? ←
14:02:43 <cygri> zakim, who is on the phone?
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:02:48 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P6, ??P5, TomDN, sandro, +44.117.370.aaaa, Arnaud, ??P11, [IBM], mhausenblas, +1.510.698.aabb, ??P20
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P6, ??P5, TomDN, sandro, +44.117.370.aaaa, Arnaud, ??P11, [IBM], mhausenblas, +1.510.698.aabb, ??P20 ←
14:03:02 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P20 (50%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: ??P20 (50%) ←
14:03:04 <cygri> zakim, mhausenblas is temporarily me
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, mhausenblas is temporarily me ←
14:03:08 <cygri> zakim, mkerrin is with me
Richard Cyganiak: zakim, mkerrin is with me ←
14:03:09 <Zakim> +cygri; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri; got it ←
14:03:13 <SteveS> Zakim, [IBM] is SteveS
Steve Speicher: Zakim, [IBM] is SteveS ←
14:03:15 <Zakim> +mkerrin; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +mkerrin; got it ←
14:03:17 <Zakim> +[OpenLink]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[OpenLink] ←
14:03:20 <bblfish> hi
Henry Story: hi ←
14:03:21 <Zakim> +SteveS; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +SteveS; got it ←
14:03:26 <svillata> Zakim, ??P5 is me
Serena Villata: Zakim, ??P5 is me ←
14:03:28 <MacTed> Zakim, [OpenLink] is temporarily me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, [OpenLink] is temporarily me ←
14:03:29 <Zakim> +svillata; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +svillata; got it ←
14:03:30 <MacTed> Zakim, mute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me ←
14:03:30 <Ruben> I don't see my number on the list but I'm here… strange
Ruben Verborgh: I don't see my number on the list but I'm here… strange ←
14:03:32 <Zakim> +MacTed; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MacTed; got it ←
14:03:36 <Zakim> MacTed should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MacTed should now be muted ←
14:03:37 <bblfish> Zakim, who is here?
Henry Story: Zakim, who is here? ←
14:03:39 <Zakim> On the phone I see ??P6, svillata, TomDN, sandro, +44.117.370.aaaa, Arnaud, ??P11, SteveS, cygri, +1.510.698.aabb, ??P20, MacTed (muted)
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ??P6, svillata, TomDN, sandro, +44.117.370.aaaa, Arnaud, ??P11, SteveS, cygri, +1.510.698.aabb, ??P20, MacTed (muted) ←
14:03:46 <Zakim> cygri has cygri, mkerrin
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has cygri, mkerrin ←
14:03:50 <Zakim> On IRC I see bblfish, cygri, krp, steve, rgarcia, mkerrin, RRSAgent, Zakim, Arnaud, Ruben, domel, dret, svillata, betehess, MacTed, SteveS, trackbot, sandro, Yves, ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see bblfish, cygri, krp, steve, rgarcia, mkerrin, RRSAgent, Zakim, Arnaud, Ruben, domel, dret, svillata, betehess, MacTed, SteveS, trackbot, sandro, Yves, ericP ←
14:04:13 <bblfish> Zakim, aabb is me
Henry Story: Zakim, aabb is me ←
14:04:14 <Zakim> +??P25
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P25 ←
14:04:18 <Zakim> -TomDN
Zakim IRC Bot: -TomDN ←
14:04:23 <Zakim> -??P20
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P20 ←
14:04:24 <Zakim> +bblfish; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +bblfish; got it ←
14:04:32 <Zakim> +JohnArwe
Zakim IRC Bot: +JohnArwe ←
14:04:36 <krp> zakim, ??P25 is me
Kevin Page: zakim, ??P25 is me ←
14:04:36 <Zakim> +krp; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +krp; got it ←
14:04:38 <Zakim> +TomDN
Zakim IRC Bot: +TomDN ←
14:04:40 <dret> Zakim, ??P6 is me
Erik Wilde: Zakim, ??P6 is me ←
14:04:42 <Zakim> +dret; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +dret; got it ←
14:05:08 <bblfish> Zakim is a robot
Henry Story: Zakim is a robot ←
14:05:08 <JohnArwe> zakim, who's on the phone?
John Arwe: zakim, who's on the phone? ←
14:05:08 <Zakim> On the phone I see dret, svillata, sandro, +44.117.370.aaaa, Arnaud, ??P11, SteveS, cygri, bblfish, MacTed (muted), krp, JohnArwe, TomDN
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see dret, svillata, sandro, +44.117.370.aaaa, Arnaud, ??P11, SteveS, cygri, bblfish, MacTed (muted), krp, JohnArwe, TomDN ←
14:05:12 <Ruben> zakim, who is on the phone?
Ruben Verborgh: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:05:14 <Zakim> cygri has cygri, mkerrin
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has cygri, mkerrin ←
14:05:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see dret, svillata, sandro, +44.117.370.aaaa, Arnaud, ??P11, SteveS, cygri, bblfish, MacTed (muted), krp, JohnArwe, TomDN
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see dret, svillata, sandro, +44.117.370.aaaa, Arnaud, ??P11, SteveS, cygri, bblfish, MacTed (muted), krp, JohnArwe, TomDN ←
14:05:24 <Zakim> cygri has cygri, mkerrin
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has cygri, mkerrin ←
14:05:33 <Ruben> zakim, TomDN is me
Ruben Verborgh: zakim, TomDN is me ←
14:05:36 <Zakim> +Ruben; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ruben; got it ←
14:05:40 <Zakim> +??P29
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P29 ←
14:05:47 <Ruben> zakim, who is on the phone?
Ruben Verborgh: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
14:05:47 <Zakim> On the phone I see dret, svillata, sandro, +44.117.370.aaaa, Arnaud, ??P11, SteveS, cygri, bblfish, MacTed (muted), krp, JohnArwe, Ruben, ??P29
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see dret, svillata, sandro, +44.117.370.aaaa, Arnaud, ??P11, SteveS, cygri, bblfish, MacTed (muted), krp, JohnArwe, Ruben, ??P29 ←
14:05:49 <Zakim> cygri has cygri, mkerrin
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has cygri, mkerrin ←
14:06:03 <rgarcia> zakim, ??P29 is me
Raúl García Castro: zakim, ??P29 is me ←
14:06:03 <Zakim> +rgarcia; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +rgarcia; got it ←
14:07:41 <stevebattle> zakim, +44.117.370.aaaa is me
Steve Battle: zakim, +44.117.370.aaaa is me ←
14:07:41 <Zakim> +stevebattle; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +stevebattle; got it ←
14:07:54 <MacTed> Zakim, who's here?
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, who's here? ←
14:07:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see dret, svillata, sandro, stevebattle, Arnaud, ??P11, SteveS, cygri, bblfish, MacTed (muted), krp, JohnArwe, Ruben, rgarcia
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see dret, svillata, sandro, stevebattle, Arnaud, ??P11, SteveS, cygri, bblfish, MacTed (muted), krp, JohnArwe, Ruben, rgarcia ←
14:07:57 <Zakim> cygri has cygri, mkerrin
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has cygri, mkerrin ←
14:07:57 <Zakim> On IRC I see JohnArwe, bblfish, cygri, krp, stevebattle, rgarcia, mkerrin, RRSAgent, Zakim, Arnaud, Ruben, domel, dret, svillata, betehess, MacTed, SteveS, trackbot, sandro, Yves,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see JohnArwe, bblfish, cygri, krp, stevebattle, rgarcia, mkerrin, RRSAgent, Zakim, Arnaud, Ruben, domel, dret, svillata, betehess, MacTed, SteveS, trackbot, sandro, Yves, ←
14:07:57 <Zakim> ... ericP
Zakim IRC Bot: ... ericP ←
14:08:37 <bblfish> who is ??P11
Henry Story: who is ??P11 ←
14:09:04 <Zakim> +Lee_Feigenbaum
Zakim IRC Bot: +Lee_Feigenbaum ←
14:10:17 <LeeF> Do we know how many people might be attending a US east coast location?
Lee Feigenbaum: Do we know how many people might be attending a US east coast location? ←
14:10:40 <sandro> no data, LeeF
Sandro Hawke: no data, LeeF ←
14:10:53 <LeeF> Well, speaking for myself, I couldn't even consider volunteering to host without an idea of that :)
Lee Feigenbaum: Well, speaking for myself, I couldn't even consider volunteering to host without an idea of that :) ←
14:11:20 <sandro> LeeF, I'd think you could offer to host up to 8 people or whatever.
Sandro Hawke: LeeF, I'd think you could offer to host up to 8 people or whatever. ←
14:11:33 <sandro> whatever's convenient for you.
Sandro Hawke: whatever's convenient for you. ←
14:11:34 <bblfish> I can scribe
Henry Story: I can scribe ←
14:11:42 <SteveS> F2F TPAC is 29 Oct - 2 Nov, LDP is scheduled for 1-2 Nov http://www.w3.org/2012/10/TPAC/
Steve Speicher: F2F TPAC is 29 Oct - 2 Nov, LDP is scheduled for 1-2 Nov http://www.w3.org/2012/10/TPAC/ ←
14:12:39 <bblfish> yes
Henry Story: yes ←
14:12:47 <bblfish> but please help me along
Henry Story: but please help me along ←
14:12:51 <sandro> scribe: bblfish
(Scribe set to Henry Story)
14:12:53 <bblfish> sometimes I fall asleep scribing
sometimes I fall asleep scribing ←
14:12:57 <sandro> :-)
Sandro Hawke: :-) ←
14:13:16 <bblfish> No pending actions it seems
No pending actions it seems ←
14:13:23 <Zakim> +??P37
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P37 ←
14:13:24 <bblfish> starting...
starting... ←
14:13:45 <boris> zakim, ??P37 is me
Boris Villazón-Terrazas: zakim, ??P37 is me ←
14:13:45 <Zakim> +boris; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +boris; got it ←
14:14:09 <bblfish> we got this post from Michael are addresses by some spec called SDChair
we got this post from Michael are addresses by some spec called SDChair ←
14:14:12 <bblfish> URL?
URL? ←
14:15:22 <bblfish> someone just said they will send their thoughts to the group
someone just said they will send their thoughts to the group ←
14:15:39 <JohnArwe> that was steve speicher, aka steveS on IRC
John Arwe: that was steve speicher, aka steveS on IRC ←
14:16:06 <SteveS> http://www.sdshare.org/spec/sdshare-current.html
Steve Speicher: http://www.sdshare.org/spec/sdshare-current.html ←
14:16:12 <bblfish> ah great thanks
ah great thanks ←
14:16:37 <bblfish> IT looks like a very short spec
IT looks like a very short spec ←
14:17:58 <bblfish> SDShare looks like it is also a proposal
SDShare looks like it is also a proposal ←
14:18:42 <bblfish> Topic: Access Control
14:20:35 <bblfish> due to the discussion on the mailing list
due to the discussion on the mailing list ←
14:21:42 <bblfish> someone is saying that one should get this base layer defined
someone is saying that one should get this base layer defined ←
14:22:06 <Zakim> +kalpa
Zakim IRC Bot: +kalpa ←
14:22:15 <bblfish> access control https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/read-write-web/
access control https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/read-write-web/ ←
14:23:44 <Arnaud> q?
Arnaud Le Hors: q? ←
14:23:51 <Zakim> -??P11
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P11 ←
14:25:26 <bblfish> my argument was that I felt that the discussion came up on the use case because of a question of whether it was possible, so the read-write-web server shows that it is.
my argument was that I felt that the discussion came up on the use case because of a question of whether it was possible, so the read-write-web server shows that it is. ←
14:26:36 <bblfish> but the current speaker says that he started the discussion not because it was a question whether it was possible, ( there are many technologies he believes)
but the current speaker says that he started the discussion not because it was a question whether it was possible, ( there are many technologies he believes) ←
14:27:08 <JohnArwe> zakim, who is speaking?
John Arwe: zakim, who is speaking? ←
14:27:19 <Zakim> JohnArwe, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
Zakim IRC Bot: JohnArwe, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds ←
14:27:39 <bblfish> the idea is to come up with some profile of what such an authentication system would need to look like
the idea is to come up with some profile of what such an authentication system would need to look like ←
14:27:46 <Arnaud> Erik Wilde aka dret
Arnaud Le Hors: Erik Wilde aka dret ←
14:28:06 <bblfish> one should look for patterns of what this should look like with established technologies
one should look for patterns of what this should look like with established technologies ←
14:28:24 <JohnArwe> interesting that zakim was unable to identify the speaker.
John Arwe: interesting that zakim was unable to identify the speaker. ←
14:29:00 <bblfish> ie: requirements for access control should be captured (and this is part of the ldp's deliverable)
ie: requirements for access control should be captured (and this is part of the ldp's deliverable) ←
14:29:07 <bblfish> zakim, who is speaking?
zakim, who is speaking? ←
14:29:18 <Zakim> bblfish, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Arnaud (20%), SteveS (79%)
Zakim IRC Bot: bblfish, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Arnaud (20%), SteveS (79%) ←
14:29:21 <JohnArwe> steve speicher
14:29:45 <bblfish> Chair suggested we put up a wiki page to put down ideas
Chair suggested we put up a wiki page to put down ideas ←
14:30:38 <bblfish> Arnaud was suggesting to capture these requirements and put those ideas in the wiki page
Arnaud was suggesting to capture these requirements and put those ideas in the wiki page ←
14:30:55 <bblfish> ( I am not sure I understood SteveS's intervention before )
( I am not sure I understood SteveS's intervention before ) ←
14:31:03 <bblfish> zakim, who is speaking?
zakim, who is speaking? ←
14:31:14 <Zakim> bblfish, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: dret (19%), Arnaud (5%)
Zakim IRC Bot: bblfish, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: dret (19%), Arnaud (5%) ←
14:31:26 <bblfish> dret is suggesting that this be added as a use case
dret is suggesting that this be added as a use case ←
14:32:12 <bblfish> how do you express contraints for what kind of data should be transmitted
how do you express contraints for what kind of data should be transmitted ←
14:32:36 <SteveS> bblfish, To summarize, I was suggesting to expand on the use cases wrt to authen/access needs, then looking at what we need within the scope of our first round of deliverables
Steve Speicher: bblfish, To summarize, I was suggesting to expand on the use cases wrt to authen/access needs, then looking at what we need within the scope of our first round of deliverables ←
14:33:34 <bblfish> dret was saying that even though this is not clearly in the spec, one could think of auth as such a constraint
dret was saying that even though this is not clearly in the spec, one could think of auth as such a constraint ←
14:35:28 <dret> does anybody else have problems logging into the wiki, or is it just me?
Erik Wilde: does anybody else have problems logging into the wiki, or is it just me? ←
14:35:55 <bblfish> I don't have a problem with putting it in the wiki as a use case. It's certainly something I am interested in it.
I don't have a problem with putting it in the wiki as a use case. It's certainly something I am interested in it. ←
14:35:59 <bblfish> q+
q+ ←
14:36:46 <bblfish> Topic: Use Case and Requirements
14:38:39 <SteveS> I have contributed my use cases and requirements from the initial set, don't have any planned adds
Steve Speicher: I have contributed my use cases and requirements from the initial set, don't have any planned adds ←
14:39:26 <Zakim> -bblfish
Zakim IRC Bot: -bblfish ←
14:39:29 <bblfish> oops
oops ←
14:40:13 <Zakim> +bblfish
Zakim IRC Bot: +bblfish ←
14:40:54 <bblfish> so my question was a use case for handling non RDF resources
so my question was a use case for handling non RDF resources ←
14:41:38 <bblfish> Arnaud: a good use case to add
Arnaud Le Hors: a good use case to add ←
14:42:00 <Arnaud> q?
Arnaud Le Hors: q? ←
14:42:04 <bblfish> Arnaud: we need positive feedback from people so that even if they like the use cases they should see it
Arnaud Le Hors: we need positive feedback from people so that even if they like the use cases they should see it ←
14:42:05 <bblfish> q-
q- ←
14:42:12 <bblfish> perhaps a vote?
perhaps a vote? ←
14:43:29 <bblfish> 0ne should have a call for consensus on the use cases that are already up
0ne should have a call for consensus on the use cases that are already up ←
14:43:35 <sandro> sandro: let's do a call for consensus on the proposal that we support all these use cases as valuable/appropriate
Sandro Hawke: let's do a call for consensus on the proposal that we support all these use cases as valuable/appropriate [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
14:44:25 <bblfish> Topic: Comparing two things ?
14:44:50 <bblfish> Topic: compare with Graph Store protocol
14:45:09 <bblfish> where is the graph store protocol again?
where is the graph store protocol again? ←
14:45:30 <sandro> http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-http-rdf-update/
Sandro Hawke: http://www.w3.org/TR/sparql11-http-rdf-update/ ←
14:45:30 <bblfish> Any opinions?
Any opinions? ←
14:47:18 <bblfish> - what is the next plan for the draft store protocol? - PR should be in september if there are enough implementations
- what is the next plan for the draft store protocol? - PR should be in september if there are enough implementations ←
14:48:05 <bblfish> zakim, who is speaking?
zakim, who is speaking? ←
14:48:16 <Zakim> bblfish, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: sandro (82%), Arnaud (4%)
Zakim IRC Bot: bblfish, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: sandro (82%), Arnaud (4%) ←
14:48:55 <bblfish> sandro: I had a lot of problems with that SPARQL at the time. The compromise that the idea was that the POST in that spec is SPARQL specific
Sandro Hawke: I had a lot of problems with that SPARQL at the time. The compromise that the idea was that the POST in that spec is SPARQL specific ←
14:49:14 <bblfish> sandro: sticky bit: if you POST RDF it has append semantics
Sandro Hawke: sticky bit: if you POST RDF it has append semantics ←
14:50:18 <bblfish> sandro: so this seems to be a protocol to work only on SPARQL resources
Sandro Hawke: so this seems to be a protocol to work only on SPARQL resources ←
14:50:31 <bblfish> zakim, who is speaking?
zakim, who is speaking? ←
14:50:42 <sandro> SteveS,
Sandro Hawke: SteveS, ←
14:50:43 <Zakim> bblfish, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
Zakim IRC Bot: bblfish, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds ←
14:50:58 <bblfish> SteveS: in the current spec POST means create a new resource
Steve Speicher: in the current spec POST means create a new resource ←
14:51:19 <bblfish> SteveS: posting to a resource is not define
Steve Speicher: posting to a resource is not define ←
14:52:51 <bblfish> sandro: would POSTing RDF to a resource do something else than merging RDF?
Sandro Hawke: would POSTing RDF to a resource do something else than merging RDF? ←
14:53:09 <sandro> dret: post in rest is app specific
Erik Wilde: post in rest is app specific [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
14:53:24 <ericP> i think the issue is whether the current spec licenses users to expect that every resource is appendable with POST
Eric Prud'hommeaux: i think the issue is whether the current spec licenses users to expect that every resource is appendable with POST ←
14:53:54 <sandro> sandro: anyone have a story of having done that with RDF?
Sandro Hawke: anyone have a story of having done that with RDF? [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←
14:54:37 <bblfish> arnaud: this is something that is good to document ( one could do it later and keep it in bakc of mind or document it)
Arnaud Le Hors: this is something that is good to document ( one could do it later and keep it in bakc of mind or document it) ←
14:56:08 <bblfish> SteveS, and someone to fill this information out
SteveS, and someone to fill this information out ←
14:56:22 <bblfish> ( not sure what the action semantics are on irc here )
( not sure what the action semantics are on irc here ) ←
14:56:34 <bblfish> Steve and sandro
Steve and sandro ←
14:57:34 <JohnArwe> sandro, in this spec how does a client introspect the knowledge that it is interacting with a graph store? in the LDP we expose and rdf:type value to know it's a container, wondering what's the equivalent in Graph Store protocol?
John Arwe: sandro, in this spec how does a client introspect the knowledge that it is interacting with a graph store? in the LDP we expose and rdf:type value to know it's a container, wondering what's the equivalent in Graph Store protocol? ←
14:57:58 <sandro> action: SteveS to review SPARQL Graph Store Protocol and suggest how we should move forward with it
ACTION: SteveS to review SPARQL Graph Store Protocol and suggest how we should move forward with it ←
14:57:58 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - SteveS
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - SteveS ←
14:58:06 <sandro> action: Steve to review SPARQL Graph Store Protocol and suggest how we should move forward with it
ACTION: Steve to review SPARQL Graph Store Protocol and suggest how we should move forward with it ←
14:58:06 <trackbot> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - Steve
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - Steve ←
14:58:06 <trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. sspeiche, sbattle2)
Trackbot IRC Bot: Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. sspeiche, sbattle2) ←
14:58:13 <Kalpa> zakim who is on phone
Kalpa Gunaratna: zakim who is on phone ←
14:58:16 <sandro> action: sspeiche to review SPARQL Graph Store Protocol and suggest how we should move forward with it
ACTION: sspeiche to review SPARQL Graph Store Protocol and suggest how we should move forward with it ←
14:58:16 <trackbot> Created ACTION-4 - Review SPARQL Graph Store Protocol and suggest how we should move forward with it [on Steve Speicher - due 2012-07-30].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-4 - Review SPARQL Graph Store Protocol and suggest how we should move forward with it [on Steve Speicher - due 2012-07-30]. ←
14:58:49 <bblfish> Topic: ?
14:58:56 <Kalpa> zakim who is on the call
Kalpa Gunaratna: zakim who is on the call ←
14:59:04 <Zakim> -Lee_Feigenbaum
Zakim IRC Bot: -Lee_Feigenbaum ←
14:59:44 <Kalpa> zakim who is on the call?
Kalpa Gunaratna: zakim who is on the call? ←
15:00:01 <bblfish> ACTION: bblfish to add use case for non rdf content addition
ACTION: bblfish to add use case for non rdf content addition ←
15:00:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-5 - Add use case for non rdf content addition [on Henry Story - due 2012-07-30].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-5 - Add use case for non rdf content addition [on Henry Story - due 2012-07-30]. ←
15:00:53 <SteveS> ACTION: sspeiche Review SDshare
ACTION: sspeiche Review SDshare ←
15:00:53 <trackbot> Created ACTION-6 - Review SDshare [on Steve Speicher - due 2012-07-30].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-6 - Review SDshare [on Steve Speicher - due 2012-07-30]. ←
15:01:10 <dret> action: dret add a use case for authentication.authorization to the use case wiki page
ACTION: dret add a use case for authentication.authorization to the use case wiki page ←
15:01:10 <trackbot> Created ACTION-7 - Add a use case for authentication.authorization to the use case wiki page [on Erik Wilde - due 2012-07-30].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-7 - Add a use case for authentication.authorization to the use case wiki page [on Erik Wilde - due 2012-07-30]. ←
15:03:09 <bblfish> thanks
thanks ←
15:03:10 <Zakim> -JohnArwe
Zakim IRC Bot: -JohnArwe ←
15:03:11 <Zakim> -rgarcia
Zakim IRC Bot: -rgarcia ←
15:03:14 <Zakim> -SteveS
Zakim IRC Bot: -SteveS ←
15:03:15 <Zakim> -dret
Zakim IRC Bot: -dret ←
15:03:15 <Zakim> -sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -sandro ←
15:03:16 <Zakim> -Ruben
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ruben ←
15:03:16 <Zakim> -stevebattle
Zakim IRC Bot: -stevebattle ←
15:03:17 <Zakim> -svillata
Zakim IRC Bot: -svillata ←
15:03:17 <Zakim> -cygri
Zakim IRC Bot: -cygri ←
15:03:20 <Zakim> -Arnaud
Zakim IRC Bot: -Arnaud ←
15:03:21 <Zakim> -boris
Zakim IRC Bot: -boris ←
15:03:23 <Zakim> -krp
Zakim IRC Bot: -krp ←
15:03:26 <Zakim> -kalpa
Zakim IRC Bot: -kalpa ←
15:03:31 <Zakim> -MacTed
Zakim IRC Bot: -MacTed ←
15:03:33 <Zakim> -bblfish
Zakim IRC Bot: -bblfish ←
15:03:35 <Zakim> SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: SW_LDP()10:00AM has ended ←
15:03:37 <Zakim> Attendees were sandro, Arnaud, +1.510.698.aabb, cygri, mkerrin, SteveS, svillata, MacTed, bblfish, JohnArwe, krp, dret, Ruben, rgarcia, stevebattle, Lee_Feigenbaum, boris, kalpa
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were sandro, Arnaud, +1.510.698.aabb, cygri, mkerrin, SteveS, svillata, MacTed, bblfish, JohnArwe, krp, dret, Ruben, rgarcia, stevebattle, Lee_Feigenbaum, boris, kalpa ←
15:06:46 <dret> will we get a preliminary version of the minutes right away (i.e., does somebody know the voodoo commands to generate them)?
Erik Wilde: will we get a preliminary version of the minutes right away (i.e., does somebody know the voodoo commands to generate them)? ←
15:07:22 <sandro> give me 30 minutes.
Sandro Hawke: give me 30 minutes. ←
15:07:31 <sandro> sorting out some wiki permissions bug
Sandro Hawke: sorting out some wiki permissions bug ←
15:08:38 <dret> sounds great, sandro, thanks a lot!
Erik Wilde: sounds great, sandro, thanks a lot! ←
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