13:58:19 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/07/18-gld-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2013/07/18-gld-irc ←
13:58:21 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs world ←
13:58:23 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be GLD ←
13:58:23 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, trackbot, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started ←
13:58:24 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
13:58:24 <trackbot> Date: 18 July 2013
13:58:40 <sandro> RRSAgent, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: RRSAgent, who is on the call? ←
13:58:40 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. Sorry, nothing found for 'who is on the call'
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I'm logging. Sorry, nothing found for 'who is on the call' ←
13:58:53 <sandro> Zakim, who is on the call?
Sandro Hawke: Zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:58:53 <Zakim> On the phone I see +3539149aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +3539149aaaa ←
13:59:02 <fadmaa> Zkim, +353 is me
Fadi Maali: Zkim, +353 is me ←
13:59:14 <fadmaa> Zakim, +353 is me
Fadi Maali: Zakim, +353 is me ←
13:59:14 <Zakim> +fadmaa; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +fadmaa; got it ←
13:59:20 <Zakim> + +1.440.389.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.440.389.aabb ←
13:59:28 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, aabb is me
Hadley Beeman: zakim, aabb is me ←
13:59:28 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman; got it ←
13:59:49 <Zakim> +Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro ←
14:00:07 <Zakim> + +1.540.898.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.540.898.aacc ←
14:00:15 <bhyland> zakim, aacc is me
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, aacc is me ←
14:00:15 <Zakim> +bhyland; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +bhyland; got it ←
14:00:22 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:00:32 <Zakim> +??P13
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P13 ←
14:00:52 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, ??P13 is /me
Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, ??P13 is /me ←
14:00:52 <Zakim> +/me; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +/me; got it ←
14:01:00 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, ??P13 is BenediktKaempgen
Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, ??P13 is BenediktKaempgen ←
14:01:00 <Zakim> I already had ??P13 as /me, BenediktKaempgen
Zakim IRC Bot: I already had ??P13 as /me, BenediktKaempgen ←
14:01:22 <Zakim> +??P15
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P15 ←
14:01:33 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??p15 is me
Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??p15 is me ←
14:01:33 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BartvanLeeuwen; got it ←
14:01:45 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, /me is BenediktKaempgen
Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, /me is BenediktKaempgen ←
14:01:45 <Zakim> +BenediktKaempgen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BenediktKaempgen; got it ←
14:01:51 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:02:04 <olyerickson> Zakim, [ipcaller] is me.
John Erickson: Zakim, [ipcaller] is me. ←
14:02:04 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +olyerickson; got it ←
14:02:11 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking? ←
14:02:22 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: fadmaa (9%), Sandro (48%), bhyland (10%), BenediktKaempgen (25%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: fadmaa (9%), Sandro (48%), bhyland (10%), BenediktKaempgen (25%) ←
14:02:33 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me
Fadi Maali: Zakim, mute me ←
14:02:33 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should now be muted ←
14:02:43 <bhyland> Please reload your agenda page all
Bernadette Hyland: Please reload your agenda page all ←
14:04:11 <olyerickson> Vermont is definitely "crazy..." and philosophically far away
John Erickson: Vermont is definitely "crazy..." and philosophically far away ←
14:04:49 <olyerickson> Let's all listen to bhyland and sandro as they sounds great ;)
John Erickson: Let's all listen to bhyland and sandro as they sounds great ;) ←
14:05:24 <sandro> scribe: sandro
(Scribe set to Sandro Hawke)
14:05:46 <bhyland> Propose to accept minutes from last meeting: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-06-20
Bernadette Hyland: Propose to accept minutes from last meeting: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-06-20 ←
14:05:54 <sandro> bhyland: I'm chairing while Hadley looks for a better phone connection
Bernadette Hyland: I'm chairing while Hadley looks for a better phone connection ←
14:06:01 <Zakim> +OpenLink_Software
Zakim IRC Bot: +OpenLink_Software ←
14:06:08 <TallTed> Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, OpenLink_Software is temporarily me ←
14:06:08 <Zakim> +TallTed; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +TallTed; got it ←
14:06:09 <TallTed> Zakim, mute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, mute me ←
14:06:11 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed should now be muted ←
14:06:11 <sandro> PROPOSED: Accept minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-06-20
PROPOSED: Accept minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-06-20 ←
14:06:14 <bhyland> +1
Bernadette Hyland: +1 ←
14:06:19 <DaveReynolds> +1
Dave Reynolds: +1 ←
14:06:22 <BenediktKaempgen> +1
Benedikt Kaempgen: +1 ←
14:06:36 <sandro> RESOLVED: Accept minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-06-20
RESOLVED: Accept minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/gld/2013-06-20 ←
14:06:41 <Zakim> +??P32
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P32 ←
14:06:41 <olyerickson> +1 to last meetings minutes
John Erickson: +1 to last meetings minutes ←
14:06:48 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P32 is me
Joao Almeida: Zakim, ??P32 is me ←
14:06:48 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it ←
14:07:13 <sandro> bhyland: Agenda: (1) extension process, (2) transitions for dcat, regorg, adms, ucr documents
Bernadette Hyland: Agenda: (1) extension process, (2) transitions for dcat, regorg, adms, ucr documents ←
14:07:26 <sandro> topic: Charter Extension
14:07:27 <bhyland> Extension request, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Charter_Extension
Bernadette Hyland: Extension request, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Charter_Extension ←
14:07:51 <sandro> bhyland: This is a document going to W3C management to ask for extension to end of year.
Bernadette Hyland: This is a document going to W3C management to ask for extension to end of year. ←
14:08:19 <DaveReynolds> Isn't ORG already in CR?
Dave Reynolds: Isn't ORG already in CR? ←
14:08:36 <DaveReynolds> nevermind, now parsed the table
Dave Reynolds: nevermind, now parsed the table ←
14:08:42 <sandro> sandro: See Timeline at end of work to do
Sandro Hawke: See Timeline at end of work to do ←
14:09:19 <sandro> sandro: I'll change blank boxes to "done"
Sandro Hawke: I'll change blank boxes to "done" ←
14:09:33 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
14:09:40 <sandro> bhyland: any questions?
Bernadette Hyland: any questions? ←
14:10:21 <sandro> bhyland: Please confirm your status on participation list.
Bernadette Hyland: Please confirm your status on participation list. ←
14:10:41 <sandro> bhyland: We might move to bi-weekly schedule, perhaps.
Bernadette Hyland: We might move to bi-weekly schedule, perhaps. ←
14:10:52 <sandro> bhyland: if there's appropriate feedback on mailing list.
Bernadette Hyland: if there's appropriate feedback on mailing list. ←
14:10:55 <olyerickson> +1 to my continuing participation
John Erickson: +1 to my continuing participation ←
14:11:01 <fadmaa> +1
Fadi Maali: +1 ←
14:11:03 <BartvanLeeuwen> +1
Bart van Leeuwen: +1 ←
14:11:07 <TallTed> Zakim, unmute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:11:07 <Zakim> TallTed should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed should no longer be muted ←
14:11:12 <BenediktKaempgen> +1
Benedikt Kaempgen: +1 ←
14:11:23 <DaveReynolds> +1 for continued participation
Dave Reynolds: +1 for continued participation ←
14:11:31 <TallTed> Zakim, unmute me
Ted Thibodeau: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:11:31 <Zakim> TallTed was not muted, TallTed
Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed was not muted, TallTed ←
14:13:51 <HadleyBeeman> Re meetings: Specifically I wanted to ask the editors: Would it be more helpful to have a once/week check-in with us (short weekly meetings) - OR meet every two weeks or so for more in-depth discussions?
Hadley Beeman: Re meetings: Specifically I wanted to ask the editors: Would it be more helpful to have a once/week check-in with us (short weekly meetings) - OR meet every two weeks or so for more in-depth discussions? ←
14:13:52 <bhyland> zakim, who is on the call?
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:13:54 <Zakim> On the phone I see fadmaa (muted), HadleyBeeman, Sandro, bhyland, DaveReynolds, BenediktKaempgen, BartvanLeeuwen, olyerickson, TallTed, JoaoPauloAlmeida
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see fadmaa (muted), HadleyBeeman, Sandro, bhyland, DaveReynolds, BenediktKaempgen, BartvanLeeuwen, olyerickson, TallTed, JoaoPauloAlmeida ←
14:13:55 <sandro> bhyland: Do we want to move to twice a month
Bernadette Hyland: Do we want to move to twice a month ←
14:14:08 <olyerickson> 2x/mo okay but weekly poke emails would be useful
John Erickson: 2x/mo okay but weekly poke emails would be useful ←
14:14:25 <bhyland> @olyerickson, agree.
Bernadette Hyland: @olyerickson, agree. ←
14:14:34 <gatemezi> +1 to olyerickson proposal
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 to olyerickson proposal ←
14:14:34 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1
Joao Almeida: +1 ←
14:14:39 <bhyland> +1
Bernadette Hyland: +1 ←
14:14:42 <HadleyBeeman> thanks, davereynolds. That's helpful
Hadley Beeman: thanks, davereynolds. That's helpful ←
14:14:49 <fadmaa> +1
Fadi Maali: +1 ←
14:14:49 <sandro> sandro: How about cancel some meetings over the summer, and then see
Sandro Hawke: How about cancel some meetings over the summer, and then see ←
14:14:53 <HadleyBeeman> :)
Hadley Beeman: :) ←
14:14:59 <sandro> bhyland: Sounds good
Bernadette Hyland: Sounds good ←
14:15:27 <sandro> (hadley has no functioning audio)
(hadley has no functioning audio) ←
14:15:31 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me
Fadi Maali: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:15:31 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should no longer be muted ←
14:15:37 <sandro> topic: DCAT Last Call
14:15:43 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:15:45 <sandro> bhyland: Fadi, where are we?
Bernadette Hyland: Fadi, where are we? ←
14:15:50 <HadleyBeeman> I can hear, sandro — just can't speak very well. Bad bandwidth management!
Hadley Beeman: I can hear, sandro — just can't speak very well. Bad bandwidth management! ←
14:16:02 <MariosMeimaris> zakim, IPcaller is me
Marios Meimaris: zakim, IPcaller is me ←
14:16:02 <Zakim> +MariosMeimaris; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MariosMeimaris; got it ←
14:16:04 <bhyland> Timeline & checklist for DCAT, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_Timetable
Bernadette Hyland: Timeline & checklist for DCAT, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_Timetable ←
14:16:23 <sandro> fadmaa: John and I went through all the issues, all the email. Some changes might count as substantive, so second last call. All changes reflected in spec.
Fadi Maali: John and I went through all the issues, all the email. Some changes might count as substantive, so second last call. All changes reflected in spec. ←
14:16:47 <olyerickson> -1 to re-re-re reading
John Erickson: -1 to re-re-re reading ←
14:16:47 <sandro> fadmaa: It would be good if at least one other person read over this spec, but maybe that's not necessary.
Fadi Maali: It would be good if at least one other person read over this spec, but maybe that's not necessary. ←
14:16:51 <bhyland> DCAT CR Transition write up, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_CR_transition
Bernadette Hyland: DCAT CR Transition write up, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_CR_transition ←
14:17:23 <bhyland> DCAT last edits by Fadi as of 25 June 2013, see https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat/index.html
Bernadette Hyland: DCAT last edits by Fadi as of 25 June 2013, see https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat/index.html ←
14:18:10 <bhyland> Propose To publish DCAT next Tuesday 23-July
Bernadette Hyland: Propose To publish DCAT next Tuesday 23-July ←
14:18:10 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to sandro's proposal.
Hadley Beeman: +1 to sandro's proposal. ←
14:18:13 <olyerickson> bhyland: is there an exemplar of a completed instance of that doc?
Bernadette Hyland: is there an exemplar of a completed instance of that doc? [ Scribe Assist by John Erickson ] ←
14:18:21 <sandro> fadmaa: I expect to be able to put in the work to continue.
Fadi Maali: I expect to be able to put in the work to continue. ←
14:18:41 <sandro> sandro: Let's resolve to publish today, but give people 24 hrs to review again if they want.
Sandro Hawke: Let's resolve to publish today, but give people 24 hrs to review again if they want. ←
14:19:11 <bhyland> Sandro's proposal was for everyone to do one last sanity check Thursday or Friday today.
Bernadette Hyland: Sandro's proposal was for everyone to do one last sanity check Thursday or Friday today. ←
14:19:21 <olyerickson> +1 to "publish today but review over next 24 hours"
John Erickson: +1 to "publish today but review over next 24 hours" ←
14:20:16 <DaveReynolds> E.g. http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-data-cube/#change-history
Dave Reynolds: E.g. http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-data-cube/#change-history ←
14:20:19 <sandro> sandro: Please put change log in appendix.
Sandro Hawke: Please put change log in appendix. ←
14:20:28 <bhyland> Action: Fadi to put change log for recent DCAT changes in Appendix
ACTION: Fadi to put change log for recent DCAT changes in Appendix ←
14:20:28 <trackbot> Created ACTION-146 - Put change log for recent DCAT changes in Appendix [on Fadi Maali - due 2013-07-25].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-146 - Put change log for recent DCAT changes in Appendix [on Fadi Maali - due 2013-07-25]. ←
14:20:41 <bhyland> ACTION: Sandro to produce a color coded diff and share it with the GLD WG
ACTION: Sandro to produce a color coded diff and share it with the GLD WG ←
14:20:41 <trackbot> Created ACTION-147 - Produce a color coded diff and share it with the GLD WG [on Sandro Hawke - due 2013-07-25].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-147 - Produce a color coded diff and share it with the GLD WG [on Sandro Hawke - due 2013-07-25]. ←
14:21:06 <olyerickson> sandro: Do you mean something like this: http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/CR-vocab-data-cube-20130625/#change-history
Sandro Hawke: Do you mean something like this: http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/CR-vocab-data-cube-20130625/#change-history [ Scribe Assist by John Erickson ] ←
14:21:25 <bhyland> Yes John
Bernadette Hyland: Yes John ←
14:21:38 <sandro> PROPOSED: Publish DCAT as Second Last Call, giving people in WG 24 hrs to spot any last problems (after Fadi and Sandro send out change log and color-coded diff)
PROPOSED: Publish DCAT as Second Last Call, giving people in WG 24 hrs to spot any last problems (after Fadi and Sandro send out change log and color-coded diff) ←
14:21:43 <HadleyBeeman> +1
Hadley Beeman: +1 ←
14:21:47 <sandro> +1
+1 ←
14:21:50 <gatemezi> +1
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←
14:21:52 <fadmaa> +1
Fadi Maali: +1 ←
14:21:55 <DaveReynolds> +1
Dave Reynolds: +1 ←
14:21:56 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
Zakim IRC Bot: -JoaoPauloAlmeida ←
14:21:59 <bhyland> +1
Bernadette Hyland: +1 ←
14:22:07 <MariosMeimaris> +1
Marios Meimaris: +1 ←
14:22:13 <Zakim> +??P2
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P2 ←
14:22:18 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P2 is me
Joao Almeida: Zakim, ??P2 is me ←
14:22:18 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it ←
14:22:24 <sandro> RESOLVED: Publish DCAT as Second Last Call, giving people in WG 24 hrs to spot any last problems (after Fadi and Sandro send out change log and color-coded diff)
RESOLVED: Publish DCAT as Second Last Call, giving people in WG 24 hrs to spot any last problems (after Fadi and Sandro send out change log and color-coded diff) ←
14:22:29 <olyerickson> I will do a final "language" review and notify fadmaa
John Erickson: I will do a final "language" review and notify fadmaa ←
14:22:29 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1
Joao Almeida: +1 ←
14:22:35 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me
Fadi Maali: Zakim, mute me ←
14:22:35 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should now be muted ←
14:23:07 <sandro> topic: ADMS
14:23:12 <olyerickson> +1 to standing proposal
John Erickson: +1 to standing proposal ←
14:23:15 <MariosMeimaris> Sorry no mic but I'm not one of the editors of ADMS
Marios Meimaris: Sorry no mic but I'm not one of the editors of ADMS ←
14:23:17 <sandro> bhyland: MariosMeimaris can you summarize?
Bernadette Hyland: MariosMeimaris can you summarize? ←
14:23:27 <MariosMeimaris> No prob :)
Marios Meimaris: No prob :) ←
14:24:01 <sandro> sandro: I think the only change was to be in the acknowledgements.
Sandro Hawke: I think the only change was to be in the acknowledgements. ←
14:24:14 <HadleyBeeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013May/0091.html
Hadley Beeman: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013May/0091.html ←
14:24:33 <bhyland> I thought ADMS was already published as a WG Note so I'm unclear why it is on the agenda today ...
Bernadette Hyland: I thought ADMS was already published as a WG Note so I'm unclear why it is on the agenda today ... ←
14:24:37 <HadleyBeeman> Ah, sorry - that was the original publication.
Hadley Beeman: Ah, sorry - that was the original publication. ←
14:24:55 <HadleyBeeman> Sandro: it's the wrong email.
Sandro Hawke: it's the wrong email. [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
14:25:17 <HadleyBeeman> Ah wait, found it!
Hadley Beeman: Ah wait, found it! ←
14:25:23 <sandro> we don't know what's going on.....
we don't know what's going on..... ←
14:25:27 <HadleyBeeman> This! http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jun/0001.html
Hadley Beeman: This! http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jun/0001.html ←
14:25:45 <HadleyBeeman> We just working group approval for this
Hadley Beeman: We just working group approval for this ←
14:26:12 <HadleyBeeman> Sandro, that fits with my understanding of this too.
Hadley Beeman: Sandro, that fits with my understanding of this too. ←
14:27:20 <sandro> PROPOSED: Re-Publish ADMS and RegOrg notes, including appropriate acknowledgement of European Commission, as in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jun/0001.html
PROPOSED: Re-Publish ADMS and RegOrg notes, including appropriate acknowledgement of European Commission, as in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jun/0001.html ←
14:27:21 <MariosMeimaris> I can confirm that no other content changes were performed on RegOrg since it was published as a WG note, as Phil says in the email. Last changes are described in the Change Log in http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-regorg/
Marios Meimaris: I can confirm that no other content changes were performed on RegOrg since it was published as a WG note, as Phil says in the email. Last changes are described in the Change Log in http://www.w3.org/TR/vocab-regorg/ ←
14:27:30 <olyerickson> PhilA is requesting very minor and non-substantive changes to ADMS and RegOrg...I don't see problem
John Erickson: PhilA is requesting very minor and non-substantive changes to ADMS and RegOrg...I don't see problem ←
14:27:33 <HadleyBeeman> thanks, mariosmeimaris
Hadley Beeman: thanks, mariosmeimaris ←
14:27:35 <HadleyBeeman> +1
Hadley Beeman: +1 ←
14:27:36 <sandro> +1
+1 ←
14:27:38 <bhyland> +1
Bernadette Hyland: +1 ←
14:27:39 <DaveReynolds> +1
Dave Reynolds: +1 ←
14:27:43 <MariosMeimaris> +1
Marios Meimaris: +1 ←
14:27:46 <gatemezi> +1
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←
14:27:47 <BenediktKaempgen> +1
Benedikt Kaempgen: +1 ←
14:27:52 <olyerickson> +1
John Erickson: +1 ←
14:27:57 <sandro> RESOLVED: Re-Publish ADMS and RegOrg notes, including appropriate acknowledgement of European Commission, as in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jun/0001.html
RESOLVED: Re-Publish ADMS and RegOrg notes, including appropriate acknowledgement of European Commission, as in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Jun/0001.html ←
14:27:59 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1
Joao Almeida: +1 ←
14:28:12 <bhyland> +1
Bernadette Hyland: +1 ←
14:28:24 <gatemezi> +1
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←
14:28:33 <sandro> Topic: Best Practices
14:29:15 <gatemezi> I added references and there are some missing in the current version
Ghislain Atemezing: I added references and there are some missing in the current version ←
14:29:38 <sandro> bhyland: status update -- I haven't done anything in the past two months. The other editors have done a little. We need to get together and get it across the finish line. Plan is to be a WG Note. Boris and Ghislan and I need to confirm out edits. Need to be mindful of suggestions from nl and uk.
Bernadette Hyland: status update -- I haven't done anything in the past two months. The other editors have done a little. We need to get together and get it across the finish line. Plan is to be a WG Note. Boris and Ghislan and I need to confirm out edits. Need to be mindful of suggestions from nl and uk. ←
14:29:52 <gatemezi> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/bp/index.html
Ghislain Atemezing: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/bp/index.html ←
14:29:56 <sandro> bhyland: URI strategies, need to make sure we're on the same page.
Bernadette Hyland: URI strategies, need to make sure we're on the same page. ←
14:30:01 <HadleyBeeman> thanks, bhyland
Hadley Beeman: thanks, bhyland ←
14:30:48 <sandro> bhyland: Dates...
Bernadette Hyland: Dates... ←
14:30:55 <bhyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
14:31:04 <sandro> Zakim, who is on the call?
Zakim, who is on the call? ←
14:31:04 <Zakim> On the phone I see fadmaa (muted), HadleyBeeman, Sandro, bhyland, DaveReynolds, BenediktKaempgen, BartvanLeeuwen, olyerickson, TallTed, MariosMeimaris, JoaoPauloAlmeida
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see fadmaa (muted), HadleyBeeman, Sandro, bhyland, DaveReynolds, BenediktKaempgen, BartvanLeeuwen, olyerickson, TallTed, MariosMeimaris, JoaoPauloAlmeida ←
14:31:42 <fadmaa> Zakim, unmute me
Fadi Maali: Zakim, unmute me ←
14:31:42 <Zakim> fadmaa should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should no longer be muted ←
14:31:48 <sandro> bhyland: We'll get it to the WG to review by at least the end of august
Bernadette Hyland: We'll get it to the WG to review by at least the end of august ←
14:31:51 <fadmaa> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat-ucr/index.html
Fadi Maali: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat-ucr/index.html ←
14:31:56 <sandro> topic: DCAT UCR
14:32:09 <sandro> bhyland: fadi, have we lost Richard entirely?
Bernadette Hyland: fadi, have we lost Richard entirely? ←
14:32:09 <olyerickson> Note: "5 Star" section "4. Is your Linked Data Vocabulary 5-star?" doesn't match LD Glossary
John Erickson: Note: "5 Star" section "4. Is your Linked Data Vocabulary 5-star?" doesn't match LD Glossary ←
14:32:42 <sandro> fadmaa: I haven't been able to get ahold of Richard.
Fadi Maali: I haven't been able to get ahold of Richard. ←
14:32:52 <olyerickson> that was the previous topic (BP doc)
John Erickson: that was the previous topic (BP doc) ←
14:32:56 <sandro> bhyland: Can you do this?
Bernadette Hyland: Can you do this? ←
14:33:19 <sandro> fadmaa: I'm not sure what we agree to do with this document.
Fadi Maali: I'm not sure what we agree to do with this document. ←
14:33:33 <bhyland> Question was to Fadi, can you dedicate time to complete DCAT UCR to make it a fleshed out WG Note?
Bernadette Hyland: Question was to Fadi, can you dedicate time to complete DCAT UCR to make it a fleshed out WG Note? ←
14:33:34 <DaveReynolds> agree with Fadi, I thought we had already agreed this was unnecessary
Dave Reynolds: agree with Fadi, I thought we had already agreed this was unnecessary ←
14:33:49 <HadleyBeeman> I think we left it in your judgment, fadmaa. And I know we talked about whether we can make it useful as "helpful implementation guidance"
Hadley Beeman: I think we left it in your judgment, fadmaa. And I know we talked about whether we can make it useful as "helpful implementation guidance" ←
14:33:58 <bhyland> @DaveReynolds, I recall the same
Bernadette Hyland: @DaveReynolds, I recall the same ←
14:34:02 <olyerickson> +1 to fadmaa and DaveReynolds
John Erickson: +1 to fadmaa and DaveReynolds ←
14:34:02 <sandro> fadmaa: Some of the use cases are not addressed by DCAT. If we publish, someone might say "but dcat doesn't do this". EG dcat doesn't include a mechanism to exchange the data.
Fadi Maali: Some of the use cases are not addressed by DCAT. If we publish, someone might say "but dcat doesn't do this". EG dcat doesn't include a mechanism to exchange the data. ←
14:34:21 <sandro> bhyland: I'm okay with that.
Bernadette Hyland: I'm okay with that. ←
14:34:44 <HadleyBeeman> I'm okay with it too — but I think we should make it official
Hadley Beeman: I'm okay with it too — but I think we should make it official ←
14:35:16 <sandro> PROPOSED: The working group does not intend to publish DCAT UCR.
PROPOSED: The working group does not intend to publish DCAT UCR. ←
14:35:25 <fadmaa> +1
Fadi Maali: +1 ←
14:35:29 <bhyland> +1
Bernadette Hyland: +1 ←
14:35:32 <HadleyBeeman> +1
Hadley Beeman: +1 ←
14:35:34 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1
Joao Almeida: +1 ←
14:35:35 <olyerickson> It's more than losing an editor...it's simply that we didn't follow a use case driven process
John Erickson: It's more than losing an editor...it's simply that we didn't follow a use case driven process ←
14:35:35 <DaveReynolds> +1
Dave Reynolds: +1 ←
14:35:39 <BenediktKaempgen> +1
Benedikt Kaempgen: +1 ←
14:35:42 <sandro> +0 sad, but I'm not about to do the work :-)
+0 sad, but I'm not about to do the work :-) ←
14:35:50 <HadleyBeeman> well said, sandro :)
Hadley Beeman: well said, sandro :) ←
14:36:04 <fadmaa> Zakim, mute me
Fadi Maali: Zakim, mute me ←
14:36:04 <Zakim> fadmaa should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: fadmaa should now be muted ←
14:36:10 <gatemezi> +0
Ghislain Atemezing: +0 ←
14:36:49 <sandro> RESOLVED: The working group does not intend to publish DCAT UCR.
RESOLVED: The working group does not intend to publish DCAT UCR. ←
14:36:54 <HadleyBeeman> Sure, bhyland… I'll update the table on the main wiki page
Hadley Beeman: Sure, bhyland… I'll update the table on the main wiki page ←
14:37:21 <olyerickson> The fact is that DCAT was well along when we entered the W3C process
John Erickson: The fact is that DCAT was well along when we entered the W3C process ←
14:37:26 <sandro> so, https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat-ucr/index.html is left at that.
so, https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/dcat-ucr/index.html is left at that. ←
14:37:36 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
Zakim IRC Bot: -JoaoPauloAlmeida ←
14:37:38 <sandro> topic: Data Cube UCR
14:37:41 <bhyland> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/index.html
Bernadette Hyland: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/index.html ←
14:37:42 <BenediktKaempgen> Link to the current version of QB use case document: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/index.html
Benedikt Kaempgen: Link to the current version of QB use case document: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/index.html ←
14:37:45 <sandro> bhyland: BenediktKaempgen are you willing to own this and see it through?
Bernadette Hyland: BenediktKaempgen are you willing to own this and see it through? ←
14:37:50 <Zakim> +??P2
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P2 ←
14:37:53 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P2 is me
Joao Almeida: Zakim, ??P2 is me ←
14:37:54 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it ←
14:38:05 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> sorry about that
Joao Almeida: sorry about that ←
14:38:08 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> fixed now
Joao Almeida: fixed now ←
14:38:10 <bhyland> zakim, mute JoaoPauloAlmeida
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, mute JoaoPauloAlmeida ←
14:38:10 <Zakim> JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted ←
14:38:10 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> I am muted
Joao Almeida: I am muted ←
14:38:21 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> it wasn't me
Joao Almeida: it wasn't me ←
14:38:32 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> now it's ok
Joao Almeida: now it's ok ←
14:38:37 <BenediktKaempgen> 1) case studies of existing deployments of the earlier version of the data cube vocabulary. Example case study: "Publisher Case Study: Eurostat SDMX as Linked Data" https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/index.html#publisher-case-study-eurostat-sdmx-as-linked-data
Benedikt Kaempgen: 1) case studies of existing deployments of the earlier version of the data cube vocabulary. Example case study: "Publisher Case Study: Eurostat SDMX as Linked Data" https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/index.html#publisher-case-study-eurostat-sdmx-as-linked-data ←
14:38:48 <sandro> BenediktKaempgen: The purpose of the document is to present use cases and lesses concerning data cube. Includes Case Studies of existing deploeyments of earlier version.
Benedikt Kaempgen: The purpose of the document is to present use cases and lesses concerning data cube. Includes Case Studies of existing deploeyments of earlier version. ←
14:38:54 <bhyland> Benedikt
Bernadette Hyland: Benedikt ←
14:39:11 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, mute tallted
Hadley Beeman: zakim, mute tallted ←
14:39:11 <Zakim> TallTed should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed should now be muted ←
14:39:12 <bhyland> zakim, mute TallTed
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, mute TallTed ←
14:39:12 <Zakim> TallTed was already muted, bhyland
Zakim IRC Bot: TallTed was already muted, bhyland ←
14:39:12 <BenediktKaempgen> 2) other possible use cases that would benefit from using the vocabulary. Example use case: "Consumer Use Case: Visualising published statistical data in Google Public Data Explorer" https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/index.html#consumer-use-case-visualising-published-statistical-data-in-google-public-data-explorer
Benedikt Kaempgen: 2) other possible use cases that would benefit from using the vocabulary. Example use case: "Consumer Use Case: Visualising published statistical data in Google Public Data Explorer" https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/index.html#consumer-use-case-visualising-published-statistical-data-in-google-public-data-explorer ←
14:39:16 <sandro> BenediktKaempgen: Another content is use cases not yet deployed but that would benefit.
Benedikt Kaempgen: Another content is use cases not yet deployed but that would benefit. ←
14:39:42 <BenediktKaempgen> 3) We derive lessons that can be used for future work on the vocabulary as well as for useful tools complementing the vocabulary. Example lesson: "Modelers using ISO19156 - Observations & Measurements may need clarification regarding the relationship to the data cube vocabulary" https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/index.html#modelers-using-iso19156---observations-measurements-may-need-clarification-regarding-the-relati[CUT]
Benedikt Kaempgen: 3) We derive lessons that can be used for future work on the vocabulary as well as for useful tools complementing the vocabulary. Example lesson: "Modelers using ISO19156 - Observations & Measurements may need clarification regarding the relationship to the data cube vocabulary" https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/index.html#modelers-using-iso19156---observations-measurements-may-need-clarification-regarding-the-relati[CUT] ←
14:39:50 <sandro> BenediktKaempgen: finally, we derive lessons for future work on vocab.
Benedikt Kaempgen: finally, we derive lessons for future work on vocab. ←
14:41:01 <bhyland> Benedikt: cygri put a lot of work in at the beginning of the documents creation and he continued to provide valuable feedback.
Benedikt Kaempgen: cygri put a lot of work in at the beginning of the documents creation and he continued to provide valuable feedback. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
14:41:07 <sandro> BenediktKaempgen: Current status: Richard not involved any more (since Feb 2013). Good feedback from James, Phil, Dave. answered by email.
Benedikt Kaempgen: Current status: Richard not involved any more (since Feb 2013). Good feedback from James, Phil, Dave. answered by email. ←
14:41:09 <bhyland> … should be listed as an editor because of this.
Bernadette Hyland: … should be listed as an editor because of this. ←
14:41:35 <sandro> BenediktKaempgen: biggest change is we no longer list Requirements. The ones we had were not really requirements, so we turned those into lessons.
Benedikt Kaempgen: biggest change is we no longer list Requirements. The ones we had were not really requirements, so we turned those into lessons. ←
14:41:43 <gatemezi> s/Benedikt/BenediktKaempgen
14:42:08 <sandro> BenediktKaempgen: Confirmed from commenters, except Phil.
Benedikt Kaempgen: Confirmed from commenters, except Phil. ←
14:42:23 <Zakim> -olyerickson
Zakim IRC Bot: -olyerickson ←
14:42:32 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
zakim, who is talking? ←
14:42:43 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: bhyland (24%), BenediktKaempgen (48%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: bhyland (24%), BenediktKaempgen (48%) ←
14:42:47 <sandro> bhyland: The date still says Feb 27th. Can you please update the date?
Bernadette Hyland: The date still says Feb 27th. Can you please update the date? ←
14:43:03 <sandro> BenediktKaempgen: I assumed I wasn't supposed to do that yet.
Benedikt Kaempgen: I assumed I wasn't supposed to do that yet. ←
14:43:12 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
14:43:25 <olyerickson> zakim, [ipcaller] is me.
John Erickson: zakim, [ipcaller] is me. ←
14:43:25 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +olyerickson; got it ←
14:43:26 <sandro> bhyland: Yeah please Update the Date any time you change it.
Bernadette Hyland: Yeah please Update the Date any time you change it. ←
14:43:48 <sandro> sandro: Yes, please change status to ED.
Sandro Hawke: Yes, please change status to ED. ←
14:44:13 <HadleyBeeman> benediktkaempgen: are you saying you're ready to transition this to wg note today?
Benedikt Kaempgen: are you saying you're ready to transition this to wg note today? [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
14:44:15 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> there is terrible echo
Joao Almeida: there is terrible echo ←
14:44:20 <sandro> bhyland: So you're committed to getting this across the finish line? (without Richard)
Bernadette Hyland: So you're committed to getting this across the finish line? (without Richard) ←
14:44:27 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?
zakim, who is talking? ←
14:44:37 <sandro> BenediktKaempgen: yes
Benedikt Kaempgen: yes ←
14:44:37 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: bhyland (39%), BenediktKaempgen (35%)
Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: bhyland (39%), BenediktKaempgen (35%) ←
14:44:46 <sandro> bhyland: When will it be done?
Bernadette Hyland: When will it be done? ←
14:45:17 <bhyland> Ah, the art of PubRules is not a trifle …
Bernadette Hyland: Ah, the art of PubRules is not a trifle … ←
14:45:24 <HadleyBeeman> :)
Hadley Beeman: :) ←
14:45:46 <sandro> BenediktKaempgen: PubRules may take some days. If we agree to publish as WG note, then I think I can have it done by 16 aug.
Benedikt Kaempgen: PubRules may take some days. If we agree to publish as WG note, then I think I can have it done by 16 aug. ←
14:46:16 <sandro> +1 BenediktKaempgen getting married!
+1 BenediktKaempgen getting married! ←
14:46:21 <MariosMeimaris> Congrats!
Marios Meimaris: Congrats! ←
14:46:23 <olyerickson> Congrats BenediktKaempgen !
John Erickson: Congrats BenediktKaempgen ! ←
14:46:58 <olyerickson> We don't need to vote on BenediktKaempgen's wedding
John Erickson: We don't need to vote on BenediktKaempgen's wedding ←
14:47:44 <DaveReynolds> Yes, fine by me
Dave Reynolds: Yes, fine by me ←
14:47:47 <bhyland> ta
Bernadette Hyland: ta ←
14:48:15 <sandro> PROPOSED: Publish Data Cube UCR as WG Note, as soon as pubrules compliant and Phil confirms he's okay with his comments being addressed.
PROPOSED: Publish Data Cube UCR as WG Note, as soon as pubrules compliant and Phil confirms he's okay with his comments being addressed. ←
14:48:18 <HadleyBeeman> +1
Hadley Beeman: +1 ←
14:48:22 <DaveReynolds> +1
Dave Reynolds: +1 ←
14:48:23 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1
Joao Almeida: +1 ←
14:48:25 <sandro> +1
+1 ←
14:48:27 <MariosMeimaris> +1
Marios Meimaris: +1 ←
14:48:32 <BenediktKaempgen> +1
Benedikt Kaempgen: +1 ←
14:48:53 <TallTed> +1
Ted Thibodeau: +1 ←
14:50:16 <bhyland> I like the streamlining of effort that is occuring on this call :-)
Bernadette Hyland: I like the streamlining of effort that is occuring on this call :-) ←
14:50:21 <gatemezi> +1
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←
<sandro> RESOLVED: Publish Data Cube UCR as WG Note, as soon as pubrules compliant and Phil confirms he's okay with his comments being addressed.
RESOLVED: Publish Data Cube UCR as WG Note, as soon as pubrules compliant and Phil confirms he's okay with his comments being addressed. ←
14:50:24 <HadleyBeeman> me too!
Hadley Beeman: me too! ←
14:50:44 <sandro> BenediktKaempgen: I'll take a look, then hand it off the sandro, so see if he can finish it quickly, otherwise it might wait some weeks.
Benedikt Kaempgen: I'll take a look, then hand it off the sandro, so see if he can finish it quickly, otherwise it might wait some weeks. ←
14:51:14 <bhyland> Topic: Tracker review
14:51:15 <sandro> topic: issue-68
14:51:19 <sandro> issue-68?
14:51:19 <trackbot> ISSUE-68 -- QB validation rules lack miss a potentially common case -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-68 -- QB validation rules lack miss a potentially common case -- raised ←
14:51:19 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/68
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/68 ←
14:51:20 <bhyland> We have two raised issues, http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/68
Bernadette Hyland: We have two raised issues, http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/68 ←
14:51:33 <sandro> issue-6
14:51:33 <trackbot> ISSUE-6 -- How should publishers figure out good URIs for properties with non-literal ranges? -- raised
Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-6 -- How should publishers figure out good URIs for properties with non-literal ranges? -- raised ←
14:51:33 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/6
Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/6 ←
14:51:50 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
Zakim IRC Bot: -JoaoPauloAlmeida ←
14:52:43 <sandro> DaveReynolds: I just raised this today. We got an implementation report on cube, and it failed on the validator because it was more picky then the integrity rules in spec.
Dave Reynolds: I just raised this today. We got an implementation report on cube, and it failed on the validator because it was more picky then the integrity rules in spec. ←
14:53:12 <sandro> DaveReynolds: This looks like it's going to be a common and important case. If not for CR, it'd be easy to fix.
Dave Reynolds: This looks like it's going to be a common and important case. If not for CR, it'd be easy to fix. ←
14:53:15 <bhyland> Would read better as: "ISSUE-68: QB validation rules miss a potentially common case" (omit work "lack")
Bernadette Hyland: Would read better as: "ISSUE-68: QB validation rules miss a potentially common case" (omit work "lack") ←
14:53:43 <sandro> DaveReynolds: Every dataset should have a structure, but it's not constrained like that. Because the RDFS closure rules aren't complete.
Dave Reynolds: Every dataset should have a structure, but it's not constrained like that. Because the RDFS closure rules aren't complete. ←
14:54:17 <sandro> DaveReynolds: Technically this would be an easy extension to the normal validation rule
Dave Reynolds: Technically this would be an easy extension to the normal validation rule ←
14:54:51 <sandro> sandro: Did the submitted data makes sense anyway?
Sandro Hawke: Did the submitted data makes sense anyway? ←
14:55:07 <sandro> DaveReynolds: No, there was an error.
Dave Reynolds: No, there was an error. ←
14:55:41 <sandro> DaveReynolds: based the validation rules in the spec, failed the validation by my validator
Dave Reynolds: based the validation rules in the spec, failed the validation by my validator ←
14:56:06 <bhyland> … it passed the Validation process (but it should not have) but wasn't legitimate per the spec document.
Bernadette Hyland: … it passed the Validation process (but it should not have) but wasn't legitimate per the spec document. ←
14:56:22 <bhyland> Sandro: We wouldn't be breaking anyone's working system if the spec change ...
Sandro Hawke: We wouldn't be breaking anyone's working system if the spec change ... [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
14:57:10 <sandro> DaveReynolds: if someone had validator by the spec, they would have to tweak their validator, but data users would not. And anyone with such a validator would want this change.
Dave Reynolds: if someone had validator by the spec, they would have to tweak their validator, but data users would not. And anyone with such a validator would want this change. ←
14:57:37 <bhyland> … Need to tighten up the spec.
Bernadette Hyland: … Need to tighten up the spec. ←
14:57:39 <sandro> DaveReynolds: CR has revealed that we left an inadvertant hold in the validation rules.
Dave Reynolds: CR has revealed that we left an inadvertant hold in the validation rules. ←
14:57:55 <bhyland> Sandro: Thinks it is OK as he understands the problem.
Sandro Hawke: Thinks it is OK as he understands the problem. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
14:57:58 <MariosMeimaris> Furthermore, the validation rules will pass RDF that has no defined qb entities in it at all.
Marios Meimaris: Furthermore, the validation rules will pass RDF that has no defined qb entities in it at all. ←
14:58:16 <bhyland> … Change the spec as it goes to PR
Bernadette Hyland: … Change the spec as it goes to PR ←
14:58:57 <bhyland> Sandro: We should have an implementors report page and notate this & ensure an email goes out about this issue.
Sandro Hawke: We should have an implementors report page and notate this & ensure an email goes out about this issue. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
14:59:00 <sandro> DaveReynolds: Any way to tell people?
Dave Reynolds: Any way to tell people? ←
14:59:11 <sandro> sandro: Not really. :-)
Sandro Hawke: Not really. :-) ←
14:59:48 <Zakim> -fadmaa
Zakim IRC Bot: -fadmaa ←
14:59:53 <sandro> DaveReynolds: Reporter has corrected their data, and is releaved at situation. They'll be fine with this.
Dave Reynolds: Reporter has corrected their data, and is releaved at situation. They'll be fine with this. ←
15:01:04 <HadleyBeeman> sandro, If we leave the issue open, won't that remind us to sort it at PR transition time?
Hadley Beeman: sandro, If we leave the issue open, won't that remind us to sort it at PR transition time? ←
15:01:54 <sandro> DaveReynolds: I'll summarize the issue and what we propose to do about it.
Dave Reynolds: I'll summarize the issue and what we propose to do about it. ←
15:02:12 <bhyland> Moved from raised to "open" with notation:
Bernadette Hyland: Moved from raised to "open" with notation: ←
15:02:12 <bhyland> Discussed 18-Jul-2-13 at GLD WG call.
Bernadette Hyland: Discussed 18-Jul-2-13 at GLD WG call. ←
15:02:12 <bhyland> Would read better as: "https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/68: QB validation rules miss a potentially common case" (omit work "lack")
Bernadette Hyland: Would read better as: "https://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/68: QB validation rules miss a potentially common case" (omit work "lack") ←
15:02:12 <bhyland> DaveReynolds: if someone had validator by the spec, they would have to tweak their validator, but data users would not. And anyone with such a validator would want this change.
Dave Reynolds: if someone had validator by the spec, they would have to tweak their validator, but data users would not. And anyone with such a validator would want this change. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
15:02:12 <bhyland> Sandro: We should have an implementors report page and notate this & ensure an email goes out about this issue.
Sandro Hawke: We should have an implementors report page and notate this & ensure an email goes out about this issue. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
15:02:13 <bhyland> DaveReynolds agreed to prepare email & send to public gld list, Sandro to ensure Ralph is OK with proposed approach.
Bernadette Hyland: DaveReynolds agreed to prepare email & send to public gld list, Sandro to ensure Ralph is OK with proposed approach. ←
15:02:45 <sandro> HadleyBeeman, hopefully we can just close it and DaveReynolds edit the draft now.
HadleyBeeman, hopefully we can just close it and DaveReynolds edit the draft now. ←
15:02:52 <HadleyBeeman> Okay, great.
Hadley Beeman: Okay, great. ←
15:03:02 <HadleyBeeman> Next meeting: 1 August! (I'll send round an email of the changed meeting schedule)
Hadley Beeman: Next meeting: 1 August! (I'll send round an email of the changed meeting schedule) ←
15:03:18 <sandro> ADJOURN
ADJOURN ←
15:03:21 <olyerickson> Thanks everyone; have a great week!
John Erickson: Thanks everyone; have a great week! ←
15:03:23 <HadleyBeeman> Thank you, bhyland, for chairing. And sandro for scribing
Hadley Beeman: Thank you, bhyland, for chairing. And sandro for scribing ←
15:03:27 <Zakim> -olyerickson
Zakim IRC Bot: -olyerickson ←
15:03:27 <HadleyBeeman> And sorry about my audio!
Hadley Beeman: And sorry about my audio! ←
15:03:28 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen
Zakim IRC Bot: -BartvanLeeuwen ←
15:03:28 <BenediktKaempgen> Thanks!
Benedikt Kaempgen: Thanks! ←
15:03:31 <DaveReynolds> bye all
Dave Reynolds: bye all ←
15:03:31 <MariosMeimaris> Bye everyone
Marios Meimaris: Bye everyone ←
15:03:34 <Zakim> -bhyland
Zakim IRC Bot: -bhyland ←
15:03:35 <Zakim> -Sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←
15:03:35 <Zakim> -BenediktKaempgen
Zakim IRC Bot: -BenediktKaempgen ←
15:03:37 <Zakim> -TallTed
Zakim IRC Bot: -TallTed ←
15:03:38 <Zakim> -DaveReynolds
Zakim IRC Bot: -DaveReynolds ←
15:03:38 <bhyland> We'll email everyone with outcome of GLD WG extension request.
Bernadette Hyland: We'll email everyone with outcome of GLD WG extension request. ←
15:03:39 <Zakim> -MariosMeimaris
Zakim IRC Bot: -MariosMeimaris ←
15:03:40 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman ←
15:03:41 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended ←
15:03:41 <Zakim> Attendees were +3539149aaaa, fadmaa, +1.440.389.aabb, HadleyBeeman, Sandro, +1.540.898.aacc, bhyland, DaveReynolds, BartvanLeeuwen, BenediktKaempgen, olyerickson, TallTed,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +3539149aaaa, fadmaa, +1.440.389.aabb, HadleyBeeman, Sandro, +1.540.898.aacc, bhyland, DaveReynolds, BartvanLeeuwen, BenediktKaempgen, olyerickson, TallTed, ←
15:03:41 <Zakim> ... JoaoPauloAlmeida, MariosMeimaris
Zakim IRC Bot: ... JoaoPauloAlmeida, MariosMeimaris ←
15:03:43 <bhyland> Speak with you all in two weeks.
Bernadette Hyland: Speak with you all in two weeks. ←
15:03:46 <BenediktKaempgen> Thanks for the congratulations!
Benedikt Kaempgen: Thanks for the congratulations! ←
15:03:52 <bhyland> Thanks for scribing Sandro.
Bernadette Hyland: Thanks for scribing Sandro. ←
15:03:52 <HadleyBeeman> :)
Hadley Beeman: :) ←
15:03:57 <gatemezi> thanks all !!
Ghislain Atemezing: thanks all !! ←
15:04:08 <sandro> RRSAgent, bye
RRSAgent, bye ←
15:04:08 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2013/07/18-gld-actions.rdf :
RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2013/07/18-gld-actions.rdf : ←
15:04:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Fadi to put change log for recent DCAT changes in Appendix [1]
ACTION: Fadi to put change log for recent DCAT changes in Appendix [1] ←
15:04:08 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/07/18-gld-irc#T14-20-28
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/07/18-gld-irc#T14-20-28 ←
15:04:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Sandro to produce a color coded diff and share it with the GLD WG [2]
ACTION: Sandro to produce a color coded diff and share it with the GLD WG [2] ←
15:04:08 <RRSAgent> recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/07/18-gld-irc#T14-20-41
RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/07/18-gld-irc#T14-20-41 ←
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