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13:59:41 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD
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13:59:42 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
13:59:43 <trackbot> Date: 25 April 2013
14:00:00 <Zakim> +DeirdreLee
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14:00:33 <HadleyBeeman> topic: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130425
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14:00:38 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, who is there?
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14:00:38 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, BenediktKaempgen.
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14:00:42 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, who is here?
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14:00:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.440.389.aaaa, DeirdreLee, ??P5, gatemezi
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14:00:43 <Zakim> On IRC I see BenediktKaempgen, DeirdreLee, Zakim, RRSAgent, danbri, gatemezi, james, HadleyBeeman, TallTed, cygri, sandro, trackbot
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14:00:50 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, aaa
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14:00:51 <Zakim> I don't understand 'aaa', HadleyBeeman
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14:00:54 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, aaaa is me
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14:01:00 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, ??P5 is BenediktKaempgen
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14:01:52 <fadmaa> Zakim, DeirdreLee has fadmaa
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14:01:52 <Zakim> +fadmaa; got it
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14:02:36 <PhilA> zakim, code?
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14:02:36 <Zakim> the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA
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14:03:03 <cygri> zakim, mhausenblas is me
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14:03:35 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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14:03:36 <Zakim> +Sandro
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14:03:46 <olyerickson> Zakim, [ipcaller] is me.
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14:03:52 <olyerickson> zakim, mute me.
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14:03:52 <Zakim> olyerickson should now be muted
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14:03:53 <Zakim> +??P18
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14:04:01 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P18 is me
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14:04:03 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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14:04:26 <HadleyBeeman> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130425
14:04:31 <PhilA> http://jenit.github.io/linked-csv/
Phil Archer: http://jenit.github.io/linked-csv/ ←
14:05:09 <HadleyBeeman> subtopic: Phil giving a summary of the #ODW13 workshop
14:05:18 <HadleyBeeman> s/Phil/PhilA
14:05:52 <olyerickson> (comment) Several of the points PhilA just raised --- PID persistence, data quality, etc --- were topics of discussion at the Research Data Alliance meeting in Gothenburg a couple weeks ago
John Erickson: (comment) Several of the points PhilA just raised --- PID persistence, data quality, etc --- were topics of discussion at the Research Data Alliance meeting in Gothenburg a couple weeks ago ←
14:07:30 <PhilA> CVS spec http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4180
Phil Archer: CSV spec http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4180 ←
14:08:22 <gatemezi> s/CVS/CSV
14:08:37 <olyerickson> And if only the tools to create those features in PDF didn't cost $$$$$$
John Erickson: And if only the tools to create those features in PDF didn't cost $$$$$$ ←
14:08:46 <olyerickson> ;)
John Erickson: ;) ←
14:09:07 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> what about vocabularies? is there more on a follow-up working group that is going to work on vocabularies?
Joao Almeida: what about vocabularies? is there more on a follow-up working group that is going to work on vocabularies? ←
14:09:11 <olyerickson> OL
John Erickson: OL ←
14:09:14 <olyerickson> OL
John Erickson: OL ←
14:09:30 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?
Phil Archer: zakim, who is here? ←
14:09:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see HadleyBeeman, DeirdreLee, BenediktKaempgen, gatemezi, Jutta, PhilA, cygri, olyerickson (muted), Sandro, JoaoPauloAlmeida, DaveReynolds
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14:09:34 <Zakim> DeirdreLee has fadmaa
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14:09:34 <Zakim> On IRC I see danbri, BartvanLeeuwen, JoaoPauloAlmeida, DaveReynolds, PhilA, olyerickson, fadmaa, BenediktKaempgen, DeirdreLee, Zakim, RRSAgent, gatemezi, james, HadleyBeeman,
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14:09:34 <Zakim> ... TallTed, cygri, sandro, trackbot
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14:10:05 <PhilA> scribe: PhilA
(Scribe set to Phil Archer)
14:10:07 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130425
Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130425 ←
14:10:13 <PhilA> scribenick: PhilA
14:10:20 <HadleyBeeman> Last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-04-18
Hadley Beeman: Last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-04-18 ←
14:10:31 <fadmaa> +1
Fadi Maali: +1 ←
14:10:31 <PhilA> PROPOSAL: Accept last week's minutes
PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes ←
14:10:36 <fadmaa> +1
Fadi Maali: +1 ←
14:10:36 <DeirdreLee> +1
Deirdre Lee: +1 ←
14:10:36 <gatemezi> +1
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←
14:10:42 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1
Joao Almeida: +1 ←
14:10:43 <BenediktKaempgen> PhilA, thanks for the pointer to the linked-csv, interesting.
Benedikt Kaempgen: PhilA, thanks for the pointer to the linked-csv, interesting. ←
14:11:06 <PhilA> RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes
RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes ←
14:12:16 <olyerickson> zakim, unmute me.
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14:12:16 <Zakim> olyerickson should no longer be muted
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14:12:38 <HadleyBeeman> editing DCAT timetable: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_Timetable
Hadley Beeman: editing DCAT timetable: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_Timetable ←
14:12:45 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Do you, Fadi or Joh,m want to talk about DCAT last call?
Hadley Beeman: Do you, Fadi or Joh,m want to talk about DCAT last call? ←
14:13:00 <PhilA> fadmaa: I'm getting requests for extensions of DCAT
Fadi Maali: I'm getting requests for extensions of DCAT ←
14:13:17 <PhilA> fadmaa: I'm not sure whether that means we need a 2nd last call or not
Fadi Maali: I'm not sure whether that means we need a 2nd last call or not ←
14:13:25 <PhilA> ... Richard and I need to go through
... Richard and I need to go through ←
14:13:39 <PhilA> ... but I think we prob will need a 2nd last call
... but I think we prob will need a 2nd last call ←
14:13:49 <PhilA> ... editorial changes made. More substantive ones remain
... editorial changes made. More substantive ones remain ←
14:14:03 <PhilA> ... sorry for not updating timetable yet. Not sure when we'll be done
... sorry for not updating timetable yet. Not sure when we'll be done ←
14:14:16 <PhilA> ... I'll update it in the next 2 days
... I'll update it in the next 2 days ←
14:14:20 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Richard?
Hadley Beeman: Richard? ←
14:14:24 <PhilA> cygri: Yes
Richard Cyganiak: Yes ←
14:14:43 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: It sounds like you and Fadi need to work out what to do. Is that going to be one in the 2 days or not?>
Hadley Beeman: It sounds like you and Fadi need to work out what to do. Is that going to be one in the 2 days or not?> ←
14:14:48 <olyerickson> Question: Is the request for more time to accommodate editorial requirements?
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Unknown Question: Is the request for more time to accommodate editorial requirements? [ Scribe Assist by John Erickson ] ←
14:15:03 <PhilA> cygri: There are quite a few issues, some in tracker, some still need raising
Richard Cyganiak: There are quite a few issues, some in tracker, some still need raising ←
14:15:24 <fadmaa> olyerickson: no. editorial requirements are easy and almost done
Fadi Maali: olyerickson, no. editorial requirements are easy and almost done ←
14:15:29 <PhilA> cygri: We can raise the issues and then the WG need to work through - that needs WG time and attention
Richard Cyganiak: We can raise the issues and then the WG need to work through - that needs WG time and attention ←
14:15:55 <olyerickson> So the extension is required to deal with legitimate issues raised
John Erickson: So the extension is required to deal with legitimate issues raised ←
14:15:57 <fadmaa> s/olyerickson: /olyerickson, /
14:15:57 <PhilA> cygri: Hard to pridict how long that will take?
Richard Cyganiak: Hard to pridict how long that will take? ←
14:16:04 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: How about next week's call?
Hadley Beeman: How about next week's call? ←
14:16:28 <PhilA> cygri: WE can start next week, but it might take longer. Several tech issues
Richard Cyganiak: WE can start next week, but it might take longer. Several tech issues ←
14:16:37 <PhilA> ... it will take more than one week's call
... it will take more than one week's call ←
14:17:24 <PhilA> cygri: We can put the issues in the tracker before the next call
Richard Cyganiak: We can put the issues in the tracker before the next call ←
14:17:24 <olyerickson> Current DCAT Issues http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/products/2
John Erickson: Current DCAT Issues http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/products/2 ←
14:17:39 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: I can work with that
Hadley Beeman: I can work with that ←
14:17:39 <olyerickson> (but there are issues that haven't been added to tracker)
John Erickson: (but there are issues that haven't been added to tracker) ←
14:18:27 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Hmm.. Ok, we'll try and put it on the agenda for next week but it might be the following week
Hadley Beeman: Hmm.. Ok, we'll try and put it on the agenda for next week but it might be the following week ←
14:18:34 <PhilA> cygri: It would be good if we can go through a few of the issues
Richard Cyganiak: It would be good if we can go through a few of the issues ←
14:18:57 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: So the timetable looks about right still?
Hadley Beeman: So the timetable looks about right still? ←
14:19:09 <PhilA> cygri: Works for me
Richard Cyganiak: Works for me ←
14:19:10 <DaveReynolds> Maybe some discussion of the issues and proposed approaches could go on the mail list to make max use of the call time?
Dave Reynolds: Maybe some discussion of the issues and proposed approaches could go on the mail list to make max use of the call time? ←
14:19:11 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
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14:19:11 <PhilA> fadmaa: +1
Fadi Maali: +1 ←
14:19:18 <PhilA> topic: Data Cube
14:19:21 <HadleyBeeman> Data Cube timetable: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Data_Cube_Timetable
Hadley Beeman: Data Cube timetable: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Data_Cube_Timetable ←
14:19:22 <olyerickson> Zakim, mute me.
John Erickson: Zakim, mute me. ←
14:19:22 <Zakim> olyerickson should now be muted
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14:19:40 <Zakim> +??P16
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14:19:50 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P16 is me
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14:19:50 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
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14:19:54 <PhilA> DaveReynolds: No change from last week. All editorial comments have been made. Just need to check that cygri is happy
Dave Reynolds: No change from last week. All editorial comments have been made. Just need to check that cygri is happy ←
14:20:19 <PhilA> DaveReynolds: The only non-editorial comment we decided not to accept and the commenter has accepted that
Dave Reynolds: The only non-editorial comment we decided not to accept and the commenter has accepted that ←
14:20:43 <PhilA> ... currently have the timetable down for 9 May draft for pub after that, which sounds doable
... currently have the timetable down for 9 May draft for pub after that, which sounds doable ←
14:21:21 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Half our documentation says it's half and half with Richard. Who's taking the lead?
Hadley Beeman: Half our documentation says it's half and half with Richard. Who's taking the lead? ←
14:21:30 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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14:21:42 <MariosMeimaris> zakim, IPcaller is me
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14:21:45 <PhilA> DaveReynolds: We're joint editors but at the moment it's more in my RAM cf. Richard's disk drive
Dave Reynolds: We're joint editors but at the moment it's more in my RAM cf. Richard's disk drive ←
14:22:00 <Zakim> -Jutta
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Zakim IRC Bot: -Jutta ←
14:22:06 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: So for QB things can stay the way they are
Hadley Beeman: So for QB things can stay the way they are ←
14:22:10 <PhilA> topic: Org
14:22:30 <HadleyBeeman> ORG emails on CR exit http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Apr/0051.html
Hadley Beeman: ORG emails on CR exit http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Apr/0051.html ←
14:22:36 <PhilA> DaveReynolds: Similar, no change from last week. Only editorial changes, all done. It's the CR Exit criteria
Dave Reynolds: Similar, no change from last week. Only editorial changes, all done. It's the CR Exit criteria ←
14:22:59 <PhilA> DaveReynolds: had useful info from sandro on what the bar might be for CR for vocabs. I'll aim to make progress on that in the coming weeks
Dave Reynolds: had useful info from sandro on what the bar might be for CR for vocabs. I'll aim to make progress on that in the coming weeks ←
14:23:14 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
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14:23:15 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Are exit criteria for org more complex than others?
Hadley Beeman: Are exit criteria for org more complex than others? ←
14:23:50 <PhilA> DaveReynolds: It's a more complex thing than QB, but QB has an idea of constraints that org doesn't which makes conformance easier to test
Dave Reynolds: It's a more complex thing than QB, but QB has an idea of constraints that org doesn't which makes QB conformance easier to test ←
14:24:07 <PhilA> s/makes conf/ makes QB conf/
14:24:41 <PhilA> DaveReynolds: If people can publish cubes that conform then we can say it works. Org is more fuzzy
Dave Reynolds: If people can publish cubes that conform then we can say it works. Org is more fuzzy ←
14:24:49 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Situation for DCAT?
Hadley Beeman: Situation for DCAT? ←
14:24:54 <PhilA> cygri: It's between the 2
Richard Cyganiak: It's between the 2 ←
14:25:17 <PhilA> cygri: More similar to org - we have hte notion of the catalogue that is compliant which implies following the structure
Richard Cyganiak: More similar to org - we have hte notion of the catalogue that is compliant which implies following the structure ←
14:25:39 <PhilA> ... but it doesn't have explicitly define constraints, so closer to org than for QB for CR
... but it doesn't have explicitly define constraints, so closer to org than for QB for CR ←
14:25:44 <PhilA> q+
q+ ←
14:25:52 <HadleyBeeman> ack phil
Hadley Beeman: ack phil ←
14:26:19 <HadleyBeeman> PhilA: Can we use ISA programme DCAT application work as evidence of ORG being useful?
Phil Archer: Can we use ISA programme DCAT application work as evidence of DCAT being useful? [ Scribe Assist by Hadley Beeman ] ←
14:26:35 <HadleyBeeman> … If they don't have to define anything new, then that's evidence that DCAT is fit for purpose.
Hadley Beeman: … If they don't have to define anything new, then that's evidence that DCAT is fit for purpose. ←
14:27:08 <HadleyBeeman> … That will require them to come up with a "this is how you use DCAT in the EU" specification
Hadley Beeman: … That will require them to come up with a "this is how you use DCAT in the EU" specification ←
14:27:21 <DaveReynolds> s/of ORG being useful/of DCAT being useful/
14:27:22 <PhilA> cygri: That sounds like a possibility
Richard Cyganiak: That sounds like a possibility ←
14:28:26 <PhilA> cygri: If we want to lower the bar for vocabs then one way would be to consider a vocab as a bag of useful terms and if we can point to existing efforts that have defined something like a schema for a data catalogue and show that existing efforts can be mapped cleanly to DCAT and vice versa then that might show that the terms in DCAT are sueful
Richard Cyganiak: If we want to lower the bar for vocabs then one way would be to consider a vocab as a bag of useful terms and if we can point to existing efforts that have defined something like a schema for a data catalogue and show that existing efforts can be mapped cleanly to DCAT and vice versa then that might show that the terms in DCAT are sueful ←
14:28:43 <PhilA> ... and a profile of DCAT is clear evidence that the stakeholders find it useful
... and a profile of DCAT is clear evidence that the stakeholders find it useful ←
14:29:36 <PhilA> ... we can use it to show that people interested in modelling a catalogue find DCAT useful nad the smae might work for ORG
... we can use it to show that people interested in modelling a catalogue find DCAT useful nad the smae might work for ORG ←
14:30:12 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: That helps assess how much longer we need
Hadley Beeman: That helps assess how much longer we need ←
14:30:21 <PhilA> topic: JSON-LD
14:30:22 <HadleyBeeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Apr/0058.html
Hadley Beeman: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Apr/0058.html ←
14:30:58 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: The is a community group looking at how to link JSON, now have 2 specs in LC and have specifically asked us to look at those specs
Hadley Beeman: The is a community group looking at how to link JSON, now have 2 specs in LC and have specifically asked us to look at those specs ←
14:31:01 <PhilA> q+
q+ ←
14:31:06 <olyerickson> http://json-ld.org/
John Erickson: http://json-ld.org/ ←
14:31:30 <PhilA> q-
q- ←
14:31:35 <DaveReynolds> q+
Dave Reynolds: q+ ←
14:31:45 <olyerickson> JSON-LD Specs: http://json-ld.org/spec/latest/
John Erickson: JSON-LD Specs: http://json-ld.org/spec/latest/ ←
14:31:48 <PhilA> sandro: This was a chartered deliverable of the RDF WG but it don't have the people to do it
Sandro Hawke: This was a chartered deliverable of the RDF WG but it don't have the people to do it ←
14:32:12 <PhilA> ... so it was spun off to a CG, they did the work and then spun back to RDF WG - so it's a hybrid
... so it was spun off to a CG, they did the work and then spun back to RDF WG - so it's a hybrid ←
14:32:28 <PhilA> ... so the CG could be seen as a task force of the RDG WG
... so the CG could be seen as a task force of the RDF WG ←
14:32:33 <PhilA> s/RDG/RDF/
14:33:04 <HadleyBeeman> q?
Hadley Beeman: q? ←
14:33:06 <HadleyBeeman> ack dave
Hadley Beeman: ack dave ←
14:33:11 <PhilA> DaveReynolds: My understanding of the charter was that there was another proposal in the charter that could have been an alternative.
Dave Reynolds: My understanding of the charter was that there was another proposal in the charter that could have been an alternative. ←
14:34:53 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> PhilA, thanks
Joao Almeida: PhilA, thanks ←
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14:36:03 <PhilA> scribe note - scribing suspended for a short conversation at request of WG member
scribe note - scribing suspended for a short conversation at request of WG member ←
14:36:31 <olyerickson> Q: What is the time frame
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14:36:46 <olyerickson> A: 10 May
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14:36:50 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: LC period finished 10 May
Hadley Beeman: LC period finished 10 May ←
14:36:58 <PhilA> ... so who in the WG can pick this up?
... so who in the WG can pick this up? ←
14:37:03 <PhilA> crickets
crickets ←
14:37:23 <PhilA> sandro: Maybe we know of someone we could ask?
Sandro Hawke: Maybe we know of someone we could ask? ←
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14:37:31 <PhilA> sandro: Someone like Sunlight?
Sandro Hawke: Someone like Sunlight? ←
14:37:50 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: OKFN spent 2 days saying how the rigour of LD gets in the way of buolding things
Hadley Beeman: OKFN spent 2 days saying how the rigour of LD gets in the way of buolding things ←
14:38:02 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Can we delegate our response?
Hadley Beeman: Can we delegate our response? ←
14:38:07 <olyerickson> zakim, unmute me.
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14:38:10 <olyerickson> q+
John Erickson: q+ ←
14:38:30 <PhilA> sandro: We can pass on reviewing but we could perhaps find someone at OKFN then we could go back to them with a +ve anser
Sandro Hawke: We can pass on reviewing but we could perhaps find someone at OKFN then we could go back to them with a +ve anser ←
14:38:32 <PhilA> ack olyerickson
ack olyerickson ←
14:39:37 <PhilA> olyerickson: I just wanted to clarify what Sandro was saying. You want someone who is not LD but who is JSON, you're looking to bring some JSON people in - so we're not reallythe people to review?
John Erickson: I just wanted to clarify what Sandro was saying. You want someone who is not LD but who is JSON, you're looking to bring some JSON people in - so we're not reallythe people to review? ←
14:40:36 <PhilA> sandro: if there's no one in the group ready to do this, then, OK, let's not do it. But if we can't then maybe we might find someone who does and can
Sandro Hawke: if there's no one in the group ready to do this, then, OK, let's not do it. But if we can't then maybe we might find someone who does and can ←
14:40:39 <PhilA> q+
q+ ←
14:40:45 <PhilA> ack me
ack me ←
14:41:10 <HadleyBeeman> q+
Hadley Beeman: q+ ←
14:41:50 <PhilA> PhilA: We could suggest some lists the JSON-LD could approach
Phil Archer: We could suggest some lists the JSON-LD could approach ←
14:41:53 <HadleyBeeman> The Last Call announcement email: "It would also be nice if the Linked Data Platform and the Government Linked Data groups could do a review of both specifications."
Hadley Beeman: The Last Call announcement email: "It would also be nice if the Linked Data Platform and the Government Linked Data groups could do a review of both specifications." ←
14:42:10 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: We've been asked to review them as a WG
Hadley Beeman: We've been asked to review them as a WG ←
14:42:33 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: We could explain our starting point as being RDF and therefore make that clear
Hadley Beeman: We could explain our starting point as being RDF and therefore make that clear ←
14:43:27 <PhilA> PhilA: We should only talk about what we know
Phil Archer: We should only talk about what we know ←
14:43:46 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Yep. we can include lots of caveats on what we say and just cover what we know
Hadley Beeman: Yep. we can include lots of caveats on what we say and just cover what we know ←
14:43:52 <PhilA> ... which brings us back to who
... which brings us back to who ←
14:44:22 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: So in terms of process, it means looking at it, drafting a response and then approving it as a WG in a future meeting
Hadley Beeman: So in terms of process, it means looking at it, drafting a response and then approving it as a WG in a future meeting ←
14:44:28 <PhilA> ... maybe an hour or so at most
... maybe an hour or so at most ←
14:44:32 <MariosMeimaris> I can give it a go
Marios Meimaris: I can give it a go ←
14:44:33 <olyerickson> I will check internally with those of our developers who have previously done JSON LD in an adhoc hoc way
John Erickson: I will check internally with those of our developers who have previously done JSON LD in an adhoc hoc way ←
14:44:43 <MariosMeimaris> Sorry I'm having problems with my mic
Marios Meimaris: Sorry I'm having problems with my mic ←
14:44:57 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: That would be good, thank you olyerickson and MariosMeimaris
Hadley Beeman: That would be good, thank you olyerickson and MariosMeimaris ←
14:45:25 <PhilA> action: MariosMeimaris to draft a review of JSON-LD by 2013-05-09
ACTION: MariosMeimaris to draft a review of JSON-LD by 2013-05-09 ←
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14:45:27 <olyerickson> Will do...I'll try to have something for GLD 9 May
John Erickson: Will do...I'll try to have something for GLD 9 May ←
14:45:31 <MariosMeimaris> Sounds good!
Marios Meimaris: Sounds good! ←
14:46:12 <PhilA> action: olyerickson to investigate whether a student can review JSON-LD and draft a possible response from a LD perspective by 2013-05-09
ACTION: olyerickson to investigate whether a student can review JSON-LD and draft a possible response from a LD perspective by 2013-05-09 ←
14:46:12 <trackbot> Created ACTION-123 - Investigate whether a student can review JSON-LD and draft a possible response from a LD perspective by 2013-05-09 [on John Erickson - due 2013-05-02].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-123 - Investigate whether a student can review JSON-LD and draft a possible response from a LD perspective by 2013-05-09 [on John Erickson - due 2013-05-02]. ←
14:46:30 <PhilA> topic: Best Practices
14:46:39 <gatemezi> q+
Ghislain Atemezing: q+ ←
14:46:48 <HadleyBeeman> ack gate
Hadley Beeman: ack gate ←
14:46:50 <HadleyBeeman> ack me
Hadley Beeman: ack me ←
14:46:54 <gatemezi> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/bp/index.html
Ghislain Atemezing: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/bp/index.html ←
14:47:08 <gatemezi> ### Proposal for Vocabulary conformance ### [[ A set of classes and properties *conform* to a {GIVEN-VOCAB} if: It reuses *all* the mandatory terms defined. It follows entirely the scope and objectives of the {GIVEN-VOCAB} . The contents of all metadata fields that are included in the RDF description, are expressed using the appropriate classes and properties from the {GIVEN-VOCAB}, except where no such class or property exists. All classes and properties[CUT]
Ghislain Atemezing: ### Proposal for Vocabulary conformance ### [[ A set of classes and properties *conform* to a {GIVEN-VOCAB} if: It reuses *all* the mandatory terms defined. It follows entirely the scope and objectives of the {GIVEN-VOCAB} . The contents of all metadata fields that are included in the RDF description, are expressed using the appropriate classes and properties from the {GIVEN-VOCAB}, except where no such class or property exists. All classes and properties[CUT] ←
14:47:14 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Given that Bernadette is on a plane and got a load of input from yesterday's bar camp, we can't do too much
Hadley Beeman: Given that Bernadette is on a plane and got a load of input from yesterday's bar camp, we can't do too much ←
14:50:26 <PhilA> PhilA: That's old text, I wouldn't propose that now. We have a generalised version
Phil Archer: That's old text, I wouldn't propose that now. We have a generalised version ←
14:50:36 <HadleyBeeman> Proposed action: Update best practices timetable for next week? http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/BP_Timetable
Hadley Beeman: Proposed action: Update best practices timetable for next week? http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/BP_Timetable ←
14:50:41 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
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14:50:43 <PhilA> PhilA: Makes more promises to spend time on BP and RegOrg and ADMS...
Phil Archer: Makes more promises to spend time on BP and RegOrg and ADMS... ←
14:50:58 <Zakim> +??P8
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14:50:59 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: So can you, gatemezi update the timetable please?
Hadley Beeman: So can you, gatemezi update the timetable please? ←
14:51:07 <PhilA> gatemezi: Sure
Ghislain Atemezing: Sure ←
14:51:09 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P8 is me
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14:51:09 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
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14:51:17 <PhilA> topic: Timetable
14:51:35 <BenediktKaempgen> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/data-cube-ucr-20130227/index.html
Benedikt Kaempgen: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/data-cube-ucr-20130227/index.html ←
14:51:46 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Are we on schedule, BenediktKaempgen for 2nd May for QB?
Hadley Beeman: Are we on schedule, BenediktKaempgen for 2nd May for QB UCR? ←
14:51:54 <HadleyBeeman> s/QB/QB UCR
14:51:59 <PhilA> BenediktKaempgen: Dave propsoed to be a review of the QB UCR
Benedikt Kaempgen: Dave propsoed to be a review of the QB UCR ←
14:52:24 <PhilA> ... but is he still able to do it ro could someone else pick it up?
... but is he still able to do it ro could someone else pick it up? ←
14:52:58 <PhilA> DaveReynolds: I'm on the hook for 2 things here, for reviewing and for looking at ISO standards on observations ??? - it would make sense if someone else could take care of he reviewing
Dave Reynolds: I'm on the hook for 2 things here, for reviewing and for looking at ISO standards on Observations & Measurements - it would make sense if someone else could take care of he reviewing ←
14:53:20 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Call for reviewers for QB
Hadley Beeman: Call for reviewers for QB ←
14:53:36 <DaveReynolds> s/observations ???/Observations & Measurements/
14:53:37 <PhilA> BenediktKaempgen: Needs someone who has familiarity with QB
Benedikt Kaempgen: Needs someone who has familiarity with QB ←
14:53:49 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Slience suggests the ideal candidate is not on the call
Hadley Beeman: Slience suggests the ideal candidate is not on the call ←
14:54:05 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: So BenediktKaempgen can you put out a message on the list to ask for a reviewer please?
Hadley Beeman: So BenediktKaempgen can you put out a message on the list to ask for a reviewer please? ←
14:54:46 <PhilA> BenediktKaempgen: Currently the UCR is stable and has been for a year. I got feedback from Richard and implemented. I passed most of the pub rules
Benedikt Kaempgen: Currently the UCR is stable and has been for a year. I got feedback from Richard and implemented. I passed most of the pub rules ←
14:54:55 <PhilA> PhilA: says ask Sandro about pubRules - he loves it
Phil Archer: says ask Sandro about pubRules - he loves it ←
14:55:12 <PhilA> BenediktKaempgen: If we don't open up any new requirements we should be fine
Benedikt Kaempgen: If we don't open up any new requirements we should be fine ←
14:55:19 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Include that in the email
Hadley Beeman: Include that in the email ←
14:55:24 <PhilA> BenediktKaempgen: OK
Benedikt Kaempgen: OK ←
14:55:32 <PhilA> Topic: DCAT UCR
14:55:47 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: So where are you on reviewers for this?
Hadley Beeman: So where are you on reviewers for this? ←
14:56:37 <PhilA> cygri: It's a pretty small document. My main concern. I don't know how essential the document really is given that most of the work has been done. What's driving DCAT now is the feedback we're getting. The doc has already served its purpose
Richard Cyganiak: It's a pretty small document. My main concern. I don't know how essential the document really is given that most of the work has been done. What's driving DCAT now is the feedback we're getting. The doc has already served its purpose ←
14:56:58 <PhilA> ... I'm happy if we publish it as a note but at the same time I'd rather spend time on getting the Rec done
... I'm happy if we publish it as a note but at the same time I'd rather spend time on getting the Rec done ←
14:57:32 <PhilA> cygri:So how much interest is there in the group to push it forward/ If we want to push it out I'd be pleased just to push it out as it is now
Richard Cyganiak: So how much interest is there in the group to push it forward/ If we want to push it out I'd be pleased just to push it out as it is now ←
14:57:39 <PhilA> PhilA: I'm happy to read through it
Phil Archer: I'm happy to read through it ←
14:57:54 <olyerickson> +1 to focus on feedback rather than perfecting use case document
John Erickson: +1 to focus on feedback rather than perfecting use case document ←
14:58:06 <PhilA> cygri: And see whether it serves any purpose and therefore whether it's worth publishing
Richard Cyganiak: And see whether it serves any purpose and therefore whether it's worth publishing ←
14:58:30 <PhilA> fadmaa: It was done a long time ago. If the content is OK and just needs a bit of editorial work then OK I can do it
Fadi Maali: It was done a long time ago. If the content is OK and just needs a bit of editorial work then OK I can do it ←
14:58:56 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: So can relevant folk read through and come up with a recommendation for how to proceed?
Hadley Beeman: So can relevant folk read through and come up with a recommendation for how to proceed? ←
14:58:57 <olyerickson> I will also have a read-through of the document...
John Erickson: I will also have a read-through of the document... ←
14:59:46 <PhilA> cygri: Yep, if John and Phil can read through and send a mail to the list what you think then that would be good. If it needs work, we probably won't do it. If not, we may as well publish it.
Richard Cyganiak: Yep, if John and Phil can read through and send a mail to the list what you think then that would be good. If it needs work, we probably won't do it. If not, we may as well publish it. ←
14:59:52 <Zakim> -olyerickson
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14:59:58 <olyerickson> Thanks!
John Erickson: Thanks! ←
15:01:27 <PhilA> topc: RegOrg and ADMS
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15:01:50 <PhilA> PhilA: I should be able to make progress on these two by next week - with help from Marios
Phil Archer: I should be able to make progress on these two by next week - with help from Marios ←
15:02:05 <PhilA> Topic: Extension
15:02:38 <PhilA> sandro: We'll need to write a proposal, making the argument as to why we should have an extension and the WG should sign off on that
Sandro Hawke: We'll need to write a proposal, making the argument as to why we should have an extension and the WG should sign off on that ←
15:02:46 <PhilA> ... and that the relevant people will stick around
... and that the relevant people will stick around ←
15:02:54 <PhilA> ... and that then goes to Thomas -> Management
... and that then goes to Thomas -> Management ←
15:03:10 <PhilA> ... W3M Meets on Wednesdays so they need to see it on a Wednesday in May
... W3M Meets on Wednesdays so they need to see it on a Wednesday in May ←
15:03:17 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: That's it for today
Hadley Beeman: That's it for today ←
15:03:42 <Zakim> -cygri
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15:03:46 <Zakim> -james
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15:03:47 <Zakim> -PhilA
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15:03:47 <Zakim> -DaveReynolds
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15:03:51 <Zakim> -MariosMeimaris
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15:04:30 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.440.389.aaaa, gatemezi, HadleyBeeman, BenediktKaempgen, fadmaa, Jutta, PhilA, cygri, Sandro, olyerickson, JoaoPauloAlmeida, DaveReynolds, MariosMeimaris, james,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +1.440.389.aaaa, gatemezi, HadleyBeeman, BenediktKaempgen, fadmaa, Jutta, PhilA, cygri, Sandro, olyerickson, JoaoPauloAlmeida, DaveReynolds, MariosMeimaris, james, ←
15:04:30 <Zakim> ... Mike_Pendleton
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15:04:48 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, aaaa was me
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15:04:48 <Zakim> I don't understand 'aaaa was me', HadleyBeeman
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15:04:53 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, aaaa is me
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15:04:53 <Zakim> sorry, HadleyBeeman, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
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15:05:01 <HadleyBeeman> ah well. :)
Hadley Beeman: ah well. :) ←
15:05:29 <PhilA> Should I worry that http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-04-25 gives me a 500 sandro?
Should I worry that http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-04-25 gives me a 500 sandro? ←
15:05:35 <PhilA> we know you were here Had
we know you were here Hadley ←
15:05:41 <HadleyBeeman> :) cheers, philA
Hadley Beeman: :) cheers, philA ←
15:05:43 <PhilA> s/Had/Hadley/
15:09:21 <PhilA> sandro?
sandro? ←
15:11:28 <PhilA> rrsagent, make logs public
rrsagent, make logs public ←
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