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13:59:41 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be GLD
13:59:41 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started
13:59:42 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
13:59:43 <trackbot> Date: 25 April 2013
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14:00:33 <HadleyBeeman> topic: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130425
14:00:33 <Zakim> +gatemezi
14:00:38 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, who is there?
14:00:38 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, BenediktKaempgen.
14:00:42 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, who is here?
14:00:42 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.440.389.aaaa, DeirdreLee, ??P5, gatemezi
14:00:43 <Zakim> On IRC I see BenediktKaempgen, DeirdreLee, Zakim, RRSAgent, danbri, gatemezi, james, HadleyBeeman, TallTed, cygri, sandro, trackbot
14:00:50 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, aaa
14:00:51 <Zakim> I don't understand 'aaa', HadleyBeeman
14:00:54 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, aaaa is me
14:00:54 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman; got it
14:01:00 <BenediktKaempgen> zakim, ??P5 is BenediktKaempgen
14:01:00 <Zakim> +BenediktKaempgen; got it
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14:01:52 <fadmaa> Zakim, DeirdreLee has fadmaa
14:01:52 <Zakim> +fadmaa; got it
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14:02:36 <PhilA> zakim, code?
14:02:36 <Zakim> the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA
14:02:43 <Zakim> +Jutta
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14:02:48 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:02:55 <PhilA> zakim, ipcaller is me
14:02:55 <Zakim> +PhilA; got it
14:02:57 <Zakim> +MHausenblas
14:03:03 <cygri> zakim, mhausenblas is me
14:03:03 <Zakim> +cygri; got it
14:03:35 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:03:36 <Zakim> +Sandro
14:03:46 <olyerickson> Zakim, [ipcaller] is me.
14:03:46 <Zakim> +olyerickson; got it
14:03:52 <olyerickson> zakim, mute me.
14:03:52 <Zakim> olyerickson should now be muted
14:03:53 <Zakim> +??P18
14:04:01 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P18  is me
14:04:01 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
14:04:03 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:04:26 <HadleyBeeman> agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130425
14:04:31 <PhilA> http://jenit.github.io/linked-csv/
14:05:09 <HadleyBeeman> subtopic: Phil giving a summary of the #ODW13 workshop
14:05:18 <HadleyBeeman> s/Phil/PhilA
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14:05:52 <olyerickson> (comment) Several of the points PhilA just raised --- PID persistence, data quality, etc --- were topics of discussion at the Research Data Alliance meeting in Gothenburg a couple weeks ago
14:07:30 <PhilA> CVS spec http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4180
14:08:22 <gatemezi> s/CVS/CSV
14:08:37 <olyerickson> And if only the tools to create those features in PDF didn't cost $$$$$$
14:08:46 <olyerickson> ;)
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14:09:07 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> what about vocabularies? is there more on a follow-up working group that is going to work on vocabularies?
14:09:11 <olyerickson> OL
14:09:14 <olyerickson> OL
14:09:30 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?
14:09:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see HadleyBeeman, DeirdreLee, BenediktKaempgen, gatemezi, Jutta, PhilA, cygri, olyerickson (muted), Sandro, JoaoPauloAlmeida, DaveReynolds
14:09:34 <Zakim> DeirdreLee has fadmaa
14:09:34 <Zakim> On IRC I see danbri, BartvanLeeuwen, JoaoPauloAlmeida, DaveReynolds, PhilA, olyerickson, fadmaa, BenediktKaempgen, DeirdreLee, Zakim, RRSAgent, gatemezi, james, HadleyBeeman,
14:09:34 <Zakim> ... TallTed, cygri, sandro, trackbot
14:10:05 <PhilA> scribe: PhilA
14:10:07 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20130425
14:10:13 <PhilA> scribenick: PhilA
14:10:20 <HadleyBeeman>  Last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-04-18
14:10:31 <fadmaa> +1
14:10:31 <PhilA> PROPOSAL: Accept last week's minutes
14:10:36 <fadmaa> +1
14:10:36 <DeirdreLee> +1
14:10:36 <gatemezi> +1
14:10:42 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1
14:10:43 <BenediktKaempgen> PhilA, thanks for the pointer to the linked-csv, interesting.
14:11:06 <PhilA> RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes
14:12:16 <olyerickson> zakim, unmute me.
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14:12:38 <HadleyBeeman> editing DCAT timetable: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/DCAT_Timetable
14:12:45 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Do you, Fadi or Joh,m want to talk about DCAT last call?
14:13:00 <PhilA> fadmaa: I'm getting requests for extensions of DCAT
14:13:17 <PhilA> fadmaa: I'm not sure whether that means we need a 2nd last call or not
14:13:25 <PhilA> ... Richard and I need to go through
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14:13:39 <PhilA> ... but I think we prob will need a 2nd last call
14:13:49 <PhilA> ... editorial changes made. More substantive ones remain
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14:14:03 <PhilA> ... sorry for not updating timetable yet. Not sure when we'll be done
14:14:16 <PhilA> ... I'll update it in the next 2 days
14:14:20 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Richard?
14:14:24 <PhilA> cygri: Yes
14:14:43 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: It sounds like you and Fadi need to work out what to do. Is that going to be one in the 2 days or not?>
14:14:48 <olyerickson> Question: Is the request for more time to accommodate editorial requirements?
14:15:03 <PhilA> cygri: There are quite a few issues, some in tracker, some still need raising
14:15:24 <fadmaa> olyerickson: no. editorial requirements are easy and almost done
14:15:29 <PhilA> cygri: We can raise the issues and then the WG need to work through - that needs WG time and attention
14:15:55 <olyerickson> So the extension is required to deal with legitimate issues raised
14:15:57 <fadmaa> s/olyerickson: /olyerickson, /
14:15:57 <PhilA> cygri: Hard to pridict how long that will take?
14:16:04 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: How about next week's call?
14:16:28 <PhilA> cygri: WE can start next week, but it might take longer. Several tech issues
14:16:37 <PhilA> ... it will take more than one week's call
14:17:24 <PhilA> cygri: We can put the issues in the tracker before the next call
14:17:24 <olyerickson> Current DCAT Issues http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/products/2
14:17:39 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: I can work with that
14:17:39 <olyerickson> (but there are issues that haven't been added to tracker)
14:18:27 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Hmm.. Ok, we'll try and put it on the agenda for next week but it might be the following week
14:18:34 <PhilA> cygri: It would be good if we can go through a few of the issues
14:18:57 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: So the timetable looks about right still?
14:19:09 <PhilA> cygri: Works for me
14:19:10 <DaveReynolds> Maybe some discussion of the issues and proposed approaches could go on the mail list to make max use of the call time?
14:19:11 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
14:19:11 <PhilA> fadmaa: +1
14:19:18 <PhilA> topic: Data Cube
14:19:21 <HadleyBeeman> Data Cube timetable: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Data_Cube_Timetable
14:19:22 <olyerickson> Zakim, mute me.
14:19:22 <Zakim> olyerickson should now be muted
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14:19:40 <Zakim> +??P16
14:19:50 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P16 is me
14:19:50 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
14:19:54 <PhilA> DaveReynolds: No change from last week. All editorial comments have been made. Just need to check that cygri is happy
14:20:19 <PhilA> DaveReynolds: The only non-editorial comment we decided not to accept and the commenter has accepted that
14:20:43 <PhilA> ... currently have the timetable down for 9 May draft for pub after that, which sounds doable
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14:21:21 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Half our documentation says it's half and half with Richard. Who's taking the lead?
14:21:30 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:21:42 <MariosMeimaris> zakim, IPcaller is me
14:21:42 <Zakim> +MariosMeimaris; got it
14:21:45 <PhilA> DaveReynolds: We're joint editors but at the moment it's more in my RAM cf. Richard's disk drive
14:22:00 <Zakim> -Jutta
14:22:06 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: So for QB things can stay the way they are
14:22:10 <PhilA> topic: Org
14:22:30 <HadleyBeeman> ORG emails on CR exit http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Apr/0051.html
14:22:36 <PhilA> DaveReynolds: Similar, no change from last week. Only editorial changes, all done. It's the CR Exit criteria
14:22:59 <PhilA> DaveReynolds: had useful info from sandro on what the bar might be for CR for vocabs. I'll aim to make progress on that in the coming weeks
14:23:14 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:23:15 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Are exit criteria for org more complex than others?
14:23:50 <PhilA> DaveReynolds: It's a more complex thing than QB, but QB has an idea of constraints that org doesn't which makes conformance easier to test
14:24:07 <PhilA> s/makes conf/ makes QB conf/
14:24:41 <PhilA> DaveReynolds: If people can publish cubes that conform then we can say it works. Org is more fuzzy
14:24:49 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Situation for DCAT?
14:24:54 <PhilA> cygri: It's between the 2
14:25:17 <PhilA> cygri: More similar to org - we have hte notion of the catalogue that is compliant which implies following the structure
14:25:39 <PhilA> ... but it doesn't have explicitly define constraints, so closer to org than for QB for CR
14:25:44 <PhilA> q+
14:25:52 <HadleyBeeman> ack phil
14:26:19 <HadleyBeeman> PhilA: Can we use ISA programme DCAT application work as evidence of ORG being useful?
14:26:35 <HadleyBeeman> … If they don't have to define anything new, then that's evidence that DCAT is fit for purpose.
14:27:08 <HadleyBeeman> … That will require them to come up with a "this is how you use DCAT in the EU" specification
14:27:21 <DaveReynolds> s/of ORG being useful/of DCAT being useful/
14:27:22 <PhilA> cygri: That sounds like a possibility
14:28:26 <PhilA> cygri: If we want to lower the bar for vocabs then one way would be to consider a vocab as a bag of useful terms and if we can point to existing efforts that have defined something like a schema for a data catalogue and show that existing efforts can be mapped cleanly to DCAT and vice versa then that might show that the terms in DCAT are sueful
14:28:43 <PhilA> ... and a profile of DCAT is clear evidence that the stakeholders find it useful
14:29:36 <PhilA> ... we can use it to show that people interested in modelling a catalogue find DCAT useful nad the smae might work for ORG
14:30:12 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: That helps assess how much longer we need
14:30:21 <PhilA> topic: JSON-LD
14:30:22 <HadleyBeeman> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2013Apr/0058.html
14:30:58 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: The is a community group looking at how to link JSON, now have 2 specs in LC and have specifically asked us to look at those specs
14:31:01 <PhilA> q+
14:31:06 <olyerickson> http://json-ld.org/
14:31:30 <PhilA> q-
14:31:35 <DaveReynolds> q+
14:31:45 <olyerickson> JSON-LD Specs: http://json-ld.org/spec/latest/
14:31:48 <PhilA> sandro: This was a chartered deliverable of the RDF WG but it don't have the people to do it
14:32:12 <PhilA> ... so it was spun off to a CG, they did the work and then spun back to RDF WG - so it's a hybrid
14:32:28 <PhilA> ... so the CG could be seen as a task force of the RDG WG
14:32:33 <PhilA> s/RDG/RDF/
14:33:04 <HadleyBeeman> q?
14:33:06 <HadleyBeeman> ack dave
14:33:11 <PhilA> DaveReynolds: My understanding of the charter was that there was another proposal in the charter that could have been an alternative.
14:34:53 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> PhilA, thanks
14:34:59 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
14:35:19 <Zakim> +??P8
14:35:25 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P8 is me
14:35:25 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
14:36:03 <PhilA> scribe note - scribing suspended for a short conversation at request of WG member
14:36:31 <olyerickson> Q: What is the time frame
14:36:46 <olyerickson> A: 10 May
14:36:50 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: LC period finished 10 May
14:36:58 <PhilA> ... so who in the WG can pick this up?
14:37:03 <PhilA> crickets
14:37:23 <PhilA> sandro: Maybe we know of someone we could ask?
14:37:27 <Zakim> +Mike_Pendleton
14:37:31 <PhilA> sandro: Someone like Sunlight?
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14:37:50 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: OKFN spent 2 days saying how the rigour of LD gets in the way of buolding things
14:38:02 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Can we delegate our response?
14:38:07 <olyerickson> zakim, unmute me.
14:38:07 <Zakim> olyerickson should no longer be muted
14:38:10 <olyerickson> q+
14:38:30 <PhilA> sandro: We can pass on reviewing but we could perhaps find someone at OKFN then we could go back to them with a +ve anser
14:38:32 <PhilA> ack olyerickson
14:39:37 <PhilA> olyerickson: I just wanted to clarify what Sandro was saying. You want someone who is not LD but who is JSON, you're looking to bring some JSON people in - so we're not reallythe people to review?
14:40:36 <PhilA> sandro: if there's no one in the group ready to do this, then, OK, let's not do it. But if we can't then maybe we might find someone who does and can
14:40:39 <PhilA> q+
14:40:45 <PhilA> ack me
14:41:10 <HadleyBeeman> q+
14:41:50 <PhilA> PhilA: We could suggest some lists the JSON-LD could approach
14:41:53 <HadleyBeeman> The Last Call announcement email: "It would also be nice if the Linked Data Platform and the Government Linked Data groups could do a review of both specifications."
14:42:10 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: We've been asked to review them as a WG
14:42:33 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: We could explain our starting point as being RDF and therefore make that clear
14:43:27 <PhilA> PhilA: We should only talk about what we know
14:43:46 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Yep. we can include lots of caveats on what we say and just cover what we know
14:43:52 <PhilA> ... which brings us back to who
14:44:22 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: So in terms of process, it means looking at it, drafting a response and then approving it as a WG in a future meeting
14:44:28 <PhilA> ... maybe an hour or so at most
14:44:32 <MariosMeimaris> I can give it a go
14:44:33 <olyerickson> I will check internally with those of our developers who have previously done JSON LD in an adhoc hoc way
14:44:43 <MariosMeimaris> Sorry I'm having problems with my mic
14:44:57 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: That would be good, thank you olyerickson and MariosMeimaris
14:45:25 <PhilA> action: MariosMeimaris to draft a review of JSON-LD by 2013-05-09
14:45:25 <trackbot> Error finding 'MariosMeimaris'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/users>.
14:45:27 <olyerickson> Will do...I'll try to have something for GLD 9 May
14:45:31 <MariosMeimaris> Sounds good!
14:46:12 <PhilA> action: olyerickson to investigate whether a student can review JSON-LD and draft a possible response from a LD perspective by 2013-05-09
14:46:12 <trackbot> Created ACTION-123 - Investigate whether a student can review JSON-LD and draft a possible response from a LD perspective by 2013-05-09 [on John Erickson - due 2013-05-02].
14:46:30 <PhilA> topic: Best Practices
14:46:39 <gatemezi> q+
14:46:48 <HadleyBeeman> ack gate
14:46:50 <HadleyBeeman> ack me
14:46:54 <gatemezi> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/bp/index.html
14:47:08 <gatemezi> ### Proposal for Vocabulary conformance ### [[ A set of classes and properties *conform* to a {GIVEN-VOCAB} if: It reuses *all* the mandatory terms defined. It follows entirely the scope and objectives of the {GIVEN-VOCAB} . The contents of all metadata fields that are included in the RDF description, are expressed using the appropriate classes and properties from the {GIVEN-VOCAB},  except where no such class or property exists. All classes and properties[CUT]
14:47:14 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Given that Bernadette is on a plane and got a load of input from yesterday's bar camp, we can't do too much
14:50:26 <PhilA> PhilA: That's old text, I wouldn't propose that now. We have a generalised version
14:50:36 <HadleyBeeman> Proposed action: Update best practices timetable for next week? http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/BP_Timetable
14:50:41 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
14:50:43 <PhilA> PhilA: Makes more promises to spend time on BP and RegOrg and ADMS...
14:50:58 <Zakim> +??P8
14:50:59 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: So can you, gatemezi update the timetable please?
14:51:07 <PhilA> gatemezi: Sure
14:51:09 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P8 is me
14:51:09 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
14:51:17 <PhilA> topic: Timetable
14:51:35 <BenediktKaempgen> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/data-cube-ucr/data-cube-ucr-20130227/index.html
14:51:46 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Are we on schedule, BenediktKaempgen for 2nd May for QB?
14:51:54 <HadleyBeeman> s/QB/QB UCR
14:51:59 <PhilA> BenediktKaempgen: Dave propsoed to be a review of the QB UCR
14:52:24 <PhilA> ... but is he still able to do it ro could someone else pick it up?
14:52:58 <PhilA> DaveReynolds: I'm on the hook for 2 things here, for reviewing and for looking at ISO standards on observations ??? - it would make sense if someone else could take care of he reviewing
14:53:20 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Call for reviewers for QB
14:53:36 <DaveReynolds> s/observations ???/Observations & Measurements/
14:53:37 <PhilA> BenediktKaempgen: Needs someone who has familiarity with QB
14:53:49 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Slience suggests the ideal candidate is not on the call
14:54:05 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: So BenediktKaempgen can you put out a message on the list to ask for a reviewer please?
14:54:46 <PhilA> BenediktKaempgen: Currently the UCR is stable and has been for a year. I got feedback from Richard and implemented. I passed most of the pub rules
14:54:55 <PhilA> PhilA: says ask Sandro about pubRules - he loves it
14:55:12 <PhilA> BenediktKaempgen: If we don't open up any new requirements we should be fine
14:55:19 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: Include that in the email
14:55:24 <PhilA> BenediktKaempgen: OK
14:55:32 <PhilA> Topic: DCAT UCR
14:55:47 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: So where are you on reviewers for this?
14:56:37 <PhilA> cygri: It's a pretty small document. My main concern. I don't know how essential the document really is given that most of the work has been done. What's driving DCAT now is the feedback we're getting. The doc has already served its purpose
14:56:58 <PhilA> ... I'm happy if we publish it as a note but at the same time I'd rather spend time on getting the Rec done
14:57:32 <PhilA> cygri:So how much interest is there in the group to push it forward/ If we want to push it out I'd be pleased just to push it out as it is now
14:57:39 <PhilA> PhilA: I'm happy to read through it
14:57:54 <olyerickson> +1 to focus on feedback rather than perfecting use case document
14:58:06 <PhilA> cygri: And see whether it serves any purpose and therefore whether it's worth publishing
14:58:30 <PhilA> fadmaa: It was done a long time ago. If the content is OK and just needs a bit of editorial work then OK I can do it
14:58:56 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: So can relevant folk read through and come up with a recommendation for how to proceed?
14:58:57 <olyerickson> I will also have a read-through of the document...
14:59:46 <PhilA> cygri: Yep, if John and Phil can read through and send a mail to the list what you think then that would be good. If it needs work, we probably won't do it. If not, we may as well publish it.
14:59:52 <Zakim> -olyerickson
14:59:58 <olyerickson> Thanks!
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15:01:27 <PhilA> topc: RegOrg and ADMS
15:01:50 <PhilA> PhilA: I should be able to make progress on these two by next week - with help from Marios
15:02:05 <PhilA> Topic: Extension
15:02:38 <PhilA> sandro: We'll need to write a proposal, making the argument as to why we should have an extension and the WG should sign off on that
15:02:46 <PhilA> ... and that the relevant people will stick around
15:02:54 <PhilA> ... and that then goes to Thomas -> Management
15:03:10 <PhilA> ... W3M Meets on Wednesdays so they need to see it on a Wednesday in May
15:03:17 <PhilA> HadleyBeeman: That's it for today
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15:03:44 <Zakim> -Mike_Pendleton
15:03:44 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
15:03:46 <Zakim> -DeirdreLee
15:03:46 <Zakim> -james
15:03:47 <Zakim> -PhilA
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15:03:50 <Zakim> -BenediktKaempgen
15:03:51 <Zakim> -MariosMeimaris
15:03:52 <Zakim> -Sandro
15:04:29 <Zakim> -gatemezi
15:04:30 <Zakim> T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM has ended
15:04:30 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.440.389.aaaa, gatemezi, HadleyBeeman, BenediktKaempgen, fadmaa, Jutta, PhilA, cygri, Sandro, olyerickson, JoaoPauloAlmeida, DaveReynolds, MariosMeimaris, james,
15:04:30 <Zakim> ... Mike_Pendleton
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15:04:48 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, aaaa was me
15:04:48 <Zakim> I don't understand 'aaaa was me', HadleyBeeman
15:04:53 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, aaaa is me
15:04:53 <Zakim> sorry, HadleyBeeman, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
15:05:01 <HadleyBeeman> ah well. :)
15:05:29 <PhilA> Should I worry that http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2013-04-25 gives me a 500 sandro?
15:05:35 <PhilA> we know you were here Had
15:05:41 <HadleyBeeman> :) cheers, philA
15:05:43 <PhilA> s/Had/Hadley/
15:09:21 <PhilA> sandro?
15:11:28 <PhilA> rrsagent, make logs public
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