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Government Linked Data Working Group

Minutes of 28 July 2011

Present
Bernadette Hyland, Ghislain Atemezing, Michael Hausenblas, Sandro Hawke, William Brafford, John Erickson, Tope Omitola, John Sheridan, Benedikt Kaempgen, Gerald Steeman, Boris Villazón-Terrazas, George Thomas, Cory Casanave, David Price
Guests
Tina Gheen (NSF/LoC), David Smith (EPA), Bart van Leeuwen (Fire Dept Amsterdam), Hadley Beeman (LinkedGov), Zachary Whitley (JHU), Yigal Arens (ISI)
Scribe
Ghislain Atemezing
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Accept the minutes from last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-07-21 link
  2. The Linked Data Cookbook be on a WG wiki now, but keep the option to move to non-WG wiki after the life of the WG to allow it to evolve over time. link
  3. Create a wiki page for discussion/background on topics related to the Deliverables. link
  4. Create a wiki page for discussion/background on topics related to the Deliverable related to Geo spec/standards/methodologies link
Topics
<sandro> present: bern, gatemezi, mhaus, sandro, brafford, erickson, tobo, sheridan, bk, gerald, boris, george, cory, price
<sandro> guest: Tina Gheen, NSF/LoC
<sandro> guest: David (DruidSmith) Smith, EPA
<sandro> guest: Bart (Simpson) van Leeuwen, Fire Dept Amsterdam
<sandro> guest: Hadley Beeman, LinkedGov
<sandro> guest: Zachary Whitley, JHU
<sandro> guest: Yigal Arens, ISI
09:56:00 <ZacharyWhitley> Zakim, who is here?

Zachary Whitley: Zakim, who is here? ←

09:56:00 <Zakim> sorry, ZacharyWhitley, I don't know what conference this is

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, ZacharyWhitley, I don't know what conference this is ←

09:56:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see bkaempgen, Zakim, George, mhausenblas, wbrafford, MacTed, bhyland, ZacharyWhitley, danbri, sandro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see bkaempgen, Zakim, George, mhausenblas, wbrafford, MacTed, bhyland, ZacharyWhitley, danbri, sandro, trackbot ←

09:57:00 <mhausenblas> Zakim, this will be GLD

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, this will be GLD ←

09:57:00 <Zakim> ok, mhausenblas, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, mhausenblas, I see T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM already started ←

09:57:00 <Zakim> + +49.721.aadd

Zakim IRC Bot: + +49.721.aadd ←

09:58:00 <Zakim> +mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: +mhausenblas ←

09:58:00 <bkaempgen> zakim, who's here?

Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, who's here? ←

09:58:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.240.228.aaaa, +1.540.898.aabb, +1.443.708.aacc, +49.721.aadd, mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +1.240.228.aaaa, +1.540.898.aabb, +1.443.708.aacc, +49.721.aadd, mhausenblas ←

09:58:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see boris, TGheen, bkaempgen, Zakim, George, mhausenblas, wbrafford, MacTed, bhyland, ZacharyWhitley, danbri, sandro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see boris, TGheen, bkaempgen, Zakim, George, mhausenblas, wbrafford, MacTed, bhyland, ZacharyWhitley, danbri, sandro, trackbot ←

09:58:00 <Zakim> + +1.540.645.aaee

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.540.645.aaee ←

09:58:00 <Zakim> + +1.202.566.aaff

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.566.aaff ←

09:58:00 <wbrafford> Zakim, aacc is wbrafford

William Brafford: Zakim, aacc is wbrafford ←

09:58:00 <bkaempgen> zakim, aadd is bkaempgen

Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, aadd is bkaempgen ←

09:58:00 <Zakim> +wbrafford; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +wbrafford; got it ←

09:58:00 <Zakim> +bkaempgen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +bkaempgen; got it ←

09:59:00 <TGheen> Zakim, aaee is me

Tina Gheen: Zakim, aaee is me ←

09:59:00 <Zakim> +TGheen; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +TGheen; got it ←

09:59:00 <bkaempgen> nick bkaempgen is Benedikt Kämpgen

Benedikt Kaempgen: nick bkaempgen is Benedikt Kämpgen ←

09:59:00 <boris> zakim, boris with mhausenblas

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: zakim, boris with mhausenblas ←

09:59:00 <Zakim> I don't understand 'boris with mhausenblas', boris

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'boris with mhausenblas', boris ←

09:59:00 <boris> zakim, boris is with mhausenblas

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: zakim, boris is with mhausenblas ←

09:59:00 <Zakim> +boris; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +boris; got it ←

10:00:00 <Zakim> + +1.202.690.aagg

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.690.aagg ←

10:00:00 <ZacharyWhitley> Zakim, who's here?

Zachary Whitley: Zakim, who's here? ←

10:00:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.240.228.aaaa, +1.540.898.aabb, wbrafford, bkaempgen, mhausenblas, TGheen, +1.202.566.aaff, +1.202.690.aagg

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +1.240.228.aaaa, +1.540.898.aabb, wbrafford, bkaempgen, mhausenblas, TGheen, +1.202.566.aaff, +1.202.690.aagg ←

10:00:00 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, boris

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, boris ←

10:00:00 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2001.07.28

Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2001.07.28 ←

10:00:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see gatemezi, boris, TGheen, bkaempgen, Zakim, George, mhausenblas, wbrafford, MacTed, bhyland, ZacharyWhitley, danbri, sandro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see gatemezi, boris, TGheen, bkaempgen, Zakim, George, mhausenblas, wbrafford, MacTed, bhyland, ZacharyWhitley, danbri, sandro, trackbot ←

10:00:00 <gatemezi> rrsagent, make records public

Ghislain Atemezing: rrsagent, make records public ←

10:00:00 <George> Zakim, aagg is George

George Thomas: Zakim, aagg is George ←

10:00:00 <Zakim> +George; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +George; got it ←

10:01:00 <Zakim> +Cory

Zakim IRC Bot: +Cory ←

10:01:00 <ZacharyWhitley> Zakim, +1.240.228.aaaa is ZacharyWhitley

Zachary Whitley: Zakim, +1.240.228.aaaa is ZacharyWhitley ←

10:01:00 <Zakim> +ZacharyWhitley; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +ZacharyWhitley; got it ←

10:01:00 <Zakim> +??P24

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P24 ←

10:02:00 <Zakim> + +1.518.276.aahh

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.518.276.aahh ←

10:03:00 <Zakim> -??P24

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P24 ←

10:03:00 <gatemezi> Hi everyone..

Ghislain Atemezing: Hi everyone.. ←

10:04:00 <gatemezi> Have some problem to invite rrsagent

Ghislain Atemezing: Have some problem to invite rrsagent ←

10:04:00 <Zakim> +??P37

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P37 ←

10:04:00 <bkaempgen> zakim, who's here?

Benedikt Kaempgen: zakim, who's here? ←

10:04:00 <Zakim> + +1.440.389.aaii

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.440.389.aaii ←

10:04:00 <bhyland> To help remind people of people's names/faces, see http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=47663&public=1

Bernadette Hyland: To help remind people of people's names/faces, see http://www.w3.org/2000/09/dbwg/details?group=47663&public=1 ←

10:04:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see ZacharyWhitley, +1.540.898.aabb, wbrafford, bkaempgen, mhausenblas, TGheen, +1.202.566.aaff, George, Cory, +1.518.276.aahh, ??P37, +1.440.389.aaii

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ZacharyWhitley, +1.540.898.aabb, wbrafford, bkaempgen, mhausenblas, TGheen, +1.202.566.aaff, George, Cory, +1.518.276.aahh, ??P37, +1.440.389.aaii ←

10:04:00 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, boris

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, boris ←

10:04:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see HadleyBeeman, Yigal, Mike, Simpson_2, gatemezi, boris, TGheen, bkaempgen, Zakim, George, mhausenblas, wbrafford, MacTed, bhyland, ZacharyWhitley, danbri, sandro,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see HadleyBeeman, Yigal, Mike, Simpson_2, gatemezi, boris, TGheen, bkaempgen, Zakim, George, mhausenblas, wbrafford, MacTed, bhyland, ZacharyWhitley, danbri, sandro, ←

10:04:00 <Simpson_2> did the passcode change ?

Bart van Leeuwen: did the passcode change ? ←

10:04:00 <Zakim> ... trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... trackbot ←

10:04:00 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, +1.440.389.aaii is hadleybeeman

Hadley Beeman: zakim, +1.440.389.aaii is hadleybeeman ←

10:04:00 <Zakim> +hadleybeeman; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +hadleybeeman; got it ←

10:04:00 <Yigal> zakim, ??P37 is Yigal

Yigal Arens: zakim, ??P37 is Yigal ←

10:04:00 <Zakim> +Yigal; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yigal; got it ←

10:05:00 <Simpson_2> thx

Bart van Leeuwen: thx ←

10:05:00 <Simpson_2> strange

Bart van Leeuwen: strange ←

10:06:00 <Zakim> +??P40

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P40 ←

10:06:00 <Zakim> + +1.617.489.aajj

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.617.489.aajj ←

10:06:00 <Simpson_2> Zakim, ??p40 is me

Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??p40 is me ←

10:06:00 <Zakim> +Simpson_2; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Simpson_2; got it ←

10:07:00 <bhyland> Ghislain, please confirm you are scribing?

Bernadette Hyland: Ghislain, please confirm you are scribing? ←

10:07:00 <Zakim> + +1.757.604.aakk

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.757.604.aakk ←

10:07:00 <gatemezi> scribe: gatemezi

(Scribe set to Ghislain Atemezing)

10:08:00 <gatemezi> nick gatemezi is Ghislain Atemezing

nick gatemezi is Ghislain Atemezing ←

10:08:00 <gatemezi> could we begin now?

could we begin now? ←

10:08:00 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is here?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is here? ←

10:08:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see ZacharyWhitley, +1.540.898.aabb, wbrafford, bkaempgen, mhausenblas, TGheen, +1.202.566.aaff, George, Cory, +1.518.276.aahh, Yigal, hadleybeeman, Simpson_2,

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ZacharyWhitley, +1.540.898.aabb, wbrafford, bkaempgen, mhausenblas, TGheen, +1.202.566.aaff, George, Cory, +1.518.276.aahh, Yigal, hadleybeeman, Simpson_2, ←

10:08:00 <Zakim> ... +1.617.489.aajj, +1.757.604.aakk

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.617.489.aajj, +1.757.604.aakk ←

10:09:00 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, boris

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, boris ←

10:09:00 <Zakim> On IRC I see cygri, cory-c, olyerickson, HadleyBeeman, Yigal, Mike, Simpson_2, gatemezi, boris, TGheen, bkaempgen, Zakim, George, mhausenblas, wbrafford, MacTed, bhyland,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see cygri, cory-c, olyerickson, HadleyBeeman, Yigal, Mike, Simpson_2, gatemezi, boris, TGheen, bkaempgen, Zakim, George, mhausenblas, wbrafford, MacTed, bhyland, ←

10:09:00 <Zakim> ... ZacharyWhitley, danbri, sandro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... ZacharyWhitley, danbri, sandro, trackbot ←

10:09:00 <ZacharyWhitley> We could probably use the EPA data in conjunction with some work on homeland security at APL.

Zachary Whitley: We could probably use the EPA data in conjunction with some work on homeland security at APL. ←

10:10:00 <gatemezi> topic: Announcements

1. Announcements

10:10:00 <cory-c> zakin, Cory is cory-c

Cory Casanave: zakin, Cory is cory-c ←

10:11:00 <bhyland> Minutes from last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-07-21

Bernadette Hyland: Minutes from last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-07-21 ←

10:11:00 <cory-c> zakim, Coary is cory-c

Cory Casanave: zakim, Coary is cory-c ←

10:11:00 <Zakim> sorry, cory-c, I do not recognize a party named 'Coary'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, cory-c, I do not recognize a party named 'Coary' ←

10:11:00 <sandro> PROPOSED: Accept http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-07-21 as minutes of last week.

PROPOSED: Accept http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-07-21 as minutes of last week. ←

10:11:00 <mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Accept the minutes from last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-07-21

PROPOSED: Accept the minutes from last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-07-21 ←

10:11:00 <sandro> :-)

Sandro Hawke: :-) ←

10:11:00 <cory-c> Zakin, Cory is cory-c

Cory Casanave: Zakin, Cory is cory-c ←

10:11:00 <cory-c> Cory can't type today

Cory Casanave: Cory can't type today ←

10:11:00 <mhausenblas> +1

Michael Hausenblas: +1 ←

10:11:00 <George> +1

George Thomas: +1 ←

10:11:00 <sandro> RESOLVED: Accept the minutes from last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-07-21

RESOLVED: Accept the minutes from last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-07-21 ←

10:12:00 <mhausenblas> q+ to ask re issue tracker

Michael Hausenblas: q+ to ask re issue tracker ←

10:12:00 <gatemezi> If resolved, next topic then?

If resolved, next topic then? ←

10:12:00 <mhausenblas> q?

Michael Hausenblas: q? ←

10:12:00 <cory-c> zakim, Cory is cory-c

Cory Casanave: zakim, Cory is cory-c ←

10:12:00 <Zakim> +cory-c; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cory-c; got it ←

10:14:00 <Zakim> + +1.202.566.aall

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.202.566.aall ←

10:14:00 <gatemezi> zakim, who is on the phone?

zakim, who is on the phone? ←

10:14:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see ZacharyWhitley, +1.540.898.aabb, wbrafford, bkaempgen, mhausenblas, TGheen, +1.202.566.aaff, George, cory-c, +1.518.276.aahh, Yigal, hadleybeeman, Simpson_2,

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ZacharyWhitley, +1.540.898.aabb, wbrafford, bkaempgen, mhausenblas, TGheen, +1.202.566.aaff, George, cory-c, +1.518.276.aahh, Yigal, hadleybeeman, Simpson_2, ←

10:14:00 <Zakim> ... +1.617.489.aajj, +1.757.604.aakk, +1.202.566.aall

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.617.489.aajj, +1.757.604.aakk, +1.202.566.aall ←

10:14:00 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, boris

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, boris ←

10:14:00 <mhausenblas> q?

Michael Hausenblas: q? ←

10:14:00 <mhausenblas> ack me

Michael Hausenblas: ack me ←

10:14:00 <Zakim> mhausenblas, you wanted to ask re issue tracker

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas, you wanted to ask re issue tracker ←

10:15:00 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/

Michael Hausenblas: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/ ←

10:16:00 <gatemezi> mhausenblas: is it announcement?

Michael Hausenblas: is it announcement? ←

10:16:00 <gatemezi> ...or something else?

...or something else? ←

10:17:00 <sandro> q?

Sandro Hawke: q? ←

10:17:00 <mhausenblas> ISSUE-1?

Michael Hausenblas: ISSUE-1? ←

10:17:00 <trackbot> ISSUE-1 -- Where should the BP cookbook go? -- open

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-1 -- Where should the BP cookbook go? -- open ←

10:17:00 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/1

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/issues/1 ←

10:18:00 <Zakim> +??P50

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P50 ←

10:19:00 <gatemezi> It seems there is no announcements... we move then to the second point of the agenda?

It seems there is no announcements... we move then to the second point of the agenda? ←

10:20:00 <gatemezi> zakim, who is on the phone?

zakim, who is on the phone? ←

10:20:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see ZacharyWhitley, +1.540.898.aabb, wbrafford, bkaempgen, mhausenblas, TGheen, +1.202.566.aaff, George, cory-c, +1.518.276.aahh, Yigal, hadleybeeman, Simpson_2,

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ZacharyWhitley, +1.540.898.aabb, wbrafford, bkaempgen, mhausenblas, TGheen, +1.202.566.aaff, George, cory-c, +1.518.276.aahh, Yigal, hadleybeeman, Simpson_2, ←

10:20:00 <Zakim> ... +1.617.489.aajj, +1.757.604.aakk, +1.202.566.aall, ??P50

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.617.489.aajj, +1.757.604.aakk, +1.202.566.aall, ??P50 ←

10:20:00 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, boris

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, boris ←

10:21:00 <wbrafford> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Community_Directory_Questionnaire

William Brafford: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Community_Directory_Questionnaire ←

10:21:00 <bhyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F1_Community_Directory_Discussion_Summary#Information_Collected.2FDisplayed

Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/F2F1_Community_Directory_Discussion_Summary#Information_Collected.2FDisplayed ←

10:21:00 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

10:24:00 <ZacharyWhitley> +1

Zachary Whitley: +1 ←

10:24:00 <gatemezi> wbrafford: which type of technology will we manage to gather these data?

William Brafford: which type of technology will we manage to gather these data? ←

10:24:00 <DruidSmith> Zakim, .aall is me

David Smith: Zakim, .aall is me ←

10:24:00 <Zakim> sorry, DruidSmith, I do not recognize a party named '.aall'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, DruidSmith, I do not recognize a party named '.aall' ←

10:24:00 <bhyland> q- ZacharyWhitley

Bernadette Hyland: q- ZacharyWhitley ←

10:24:00 <DruidSmith> Zakim, aall is me

David Smith: Zakim, aall is me ←

10:24:00 <Zakim> +DruidSmith; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +DruidSmith; got it ←

10:25:00 <HadleyBeeman> q+

Hadley Beeman: q+ ←

10:25:00 <cory-c> I see no reason not to allow posting of information when it is available, people don't like to call vendors : )

Cory Casanave: I see no reason not to allow posting of information when it is available, people don't like to call vendors : ) ←

10:25:00 <gatemezi> cory-c: alternative name ?

Cory Casanave: alternative name ? ←

10:26:00 <Yigal> q+

Yigal Arens: q+ ←

10:26:00 <cory-c> gatemezi, cory-c is Cory Casanave, Model Driven Solutions

Cory Casanave: gatemezi, cory-c is Cory Casanave, Model Driven Solutions ←

10:27:00 <olyerickson> q+

John Erickson: q+ ←

10:27:00 <mhausenblas> ack HadleyBeeman

Michael Hausenblas: ack HadleyBeeman ←

10:27:00 <sandro> HadleyBeeman: int'l law and culture will affect this privacy/publicity question

Hadley Beeman: int'l law and culture will affect this privacy/publicity question [ Scribe Assist by Sandro Hawke ] ←

10:28:00 <bhyland> Hadley: Due to legal & cultural differences, vendors/consultants may or may not be able or willing to put deployments info on the W3C Community Directory

Hadley Beeman: Due to legal & cultural differences, vendors/consultants may or may not be able or willing to put deployments info on the W3C Community Directory [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←

10:28:00 <dpe> David Price, TopQuadrant on zakim and irc

David Price: David Price, TopQuadrant on zakim and irc ←

10:29:00 <bhyland> Yigal: We should be driven by the purpose of the Community Directory.  I thought it was to help organizations get started and therefore having deployments detailed would be helpful.

Yigal Arens: We should be driven by the purpose of the Community Directory. I thought it was to help organizations get started and therefore having deployments detailed would be helpful. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←

10:29:00 <sandro> I agree with Yigal -- a big point of CD is for folks to learn from each other -- so there is value even if there are only a few entries -- it doesn't need to be complete.

Sandro Hawke: I agree with Yigal -- a big point of CD is for folks to learn from each other -- so there is value even if there are only a few entries -- it doesn't need to be complete. ←

10:29:00 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to Yigal

Hadley Beeman: +1 to Yigal ←

10:29:00 <wbrafford> +1 to Yigal

William Brafford: +1 to Yigal ←

10:29:00 <cory-c> +1 Yigal

Cory Casanave: +1 Yigal ←

10:30:00 <bhyland> +1 Yigal and Olyerickson

Bernadette Hyland: +1 Yigal and Olyerickson ←

10:30:00 <ZacharyWhitley> are we debating providing links to vendors or posting the content directly to the directory?

Zachary Whitley: are we debating providing links to vendors or posting the content directly to the directory? ←

10:30:00 <cory-c> q+

Cory Casanave: q+ ←

10:30:00 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

10:30:00 <George> +1 Cory, Sandro, Yigal, John

George Thomas: +1 Cory, Sandro, Yigal, John ←

10:30:00 <bhyland> q- Yigal

Bernadette Hyland: q- Yigal ←

10:30:00 <sandro> ZacharyWhitley, I think we're debating whether to even ask questions that lots of folks can't/wont answer.

Sandro Hawke: ZacharyWhitley, I think we're debating whether to even ask questions that lots of folks can't/wont answer. ←

10:30:00 <olyerickson> q-

John Erickson: q- ←

10:30:00 <bhyland> q- olyerickson

Bernadette Hyland: q- olyerickson ←

10:30:00 <bhyland> q- cory-c

Bernadette Hyland: q- cory-c ←

10:32:00 <bhyland> Topic: Best Practices Discussion

2. Best Practices Discussion

10:33:00 <mhausenblas> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/78852cca9f1a/bp/index.html

Michael Hausenblas: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/78852cca9f1a/bp/index.html ←

10:33:00 <sandro> q+

Sandro Hawke: q+ ←

10:33:00 <Zakim> +??P1

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P1 ←

10:33:00 <gatemezi> mhausenblas: thanks for this draft

Michael Hausenblas: thanks for this draft ←

10:34:00 <sandro> zakim, who is talking?

Sandro Hawke: zakim, who is talking? ←

10:34:00 <Zakim> sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: mhausenblas (45%), +1.202.566.aaff (74%)

Zakim IRC Bot: sandro, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: mhausenblas (45%), +1.202.566.aaff (74%) ←

10:34:00 <sandro> zakim, mute aaff

Sandro Hawke: zakim, mute aaff ←

10:34:00 <Zakim> +1.202.566.aaff should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: +1.202.566.aaff should now be muted ←

10:35:00 <sandro> (the connection +1.202.566.aaff was causing echo, so I muted it.   sorry if that's you!)

Sandro Hawke: (the connection +1.202.566.aaff was causing echo, so I muted it. sorry if that's you!) ←

10:36:00 <tobo> Hello from tobo

Tope Omitola: Hello from tobo ←

10:36:00 <bhyland> Mhausenblas: Discussed options for getting input on the Best Practices spec.  One option is get contributors to add to wiki.  Then Editors would be responsible for putting it into the editors draft.

Michael Hausenblas: Discussed options for getting input on the Best Practices spec. One option is get contributors to add to wiki. Then Editors would be responsible for putting it into the editors draft. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←

10:37:00 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

10:37:00 <gatemezi> I have also put two other links here http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Best_Practices_Discussion_Summary#2.2.3_URI_Construction

I have also put two other links here http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Best_Practices_Discussion_Summary#2.2.3_URI_Construction ←

10:37:00 <gatemezi> Hope will be helpful

Hope will be helpful ←

10:37:00 <bhyland> Sandro: Two solutions for editing, either ReSpec or the wiki.  Initially he thought this group would be better suited using the wiki.

Sandro Hawke: Two solutions for editing, either ReSpec or the wiki. Initially he thought this group would be better suited using the wiki. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←

10:38:00 <bhyland> Mhausenblas: There will be a day when we have to publish the first Working Draft.

Michael Hausenblas: There will be a day when we have to publish the first Working Draft. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←

10:38:00 <bhyland> q+

Bernadette Hyland: q+ ←

10:40:00 <johnlsheridan> I think the wiki is the best bet (agree with Sandro)

John Sheridan: I think the wiki is the best bet (agree with Sandro) ←

10:40:00 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to Bernadette that the wiki is an easy to do group work.  Less versioning, less confusion.

Hadley Beeman: +1 to Bernadette that the wiki is an easy to do group work. Less versioning, less confusion. ←

10:40:00 <HadleyBeeman> an easy place

Hadley Beeman: an easy place ←

10:41:00 <bhyland> To be clear, I think mhausenblas and I (bhyland) are suggesting that we use wiki, but that the editors pull the info over into ReSpec using Mercurial.

Bernadette Hyland: To be clear, I think mhausenblas and I (bhyland) are suggesting that we use wiki, but that the editors pull the info over into ReSpec using Mercurial. ←

10:42:00 <gatemezi> +1 for Bernadette & mhausenblas proposal

+1 for Bernadette & mhausenblas proposal ←

10:42:00 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

10:42:00 <sandro> q-

Sandro Hawke: q- ←

10:42:00 <olyerickson> I support either method (hg or wiki) ... as long as additions can be reverted, either is fine

John Erickson: I support either method (hg or wiki) ... as long as additions can be reverted, either is fine ←

10:43:00 <bhyland> q- sandro, bhyland

Bernadette Hyland: q- sandro, bhyland ←

10:45:00 <olyerickson> +1 to Cookbook being "living" (evolving) document; wiki is a great approach; lives beyond GLD WG activity

John Erickson: +1 to Cookbook being "living" (evolving) document; wiki is a great approach; lives beyond GLD WG activity ←

10:45:00 <HadleyBeeman> Strong support to keep the cookbook as a live document; we're learning (collectively) loads all the time.  It would be a shame for it to become stale because we couldn't incorporate new progress.

Hadley Beeman: Strong support to keep the cookbook as a live document; we're learning (collectively) loads all the time. It would be a shame for it to become stale because we couldn't incorporate new progress. ←

10:46:00 <mhausenblas> +1

Michael Hausenblas: +1 ←

10:46:00 <gatemezi> +1

+1 ←

10:46:00 <Simpson_2> +1 for keeping it a live doc

Bart van Leeuwen: +1 for keeping it a live doc ←

10:46:00 <bhyland> Proposed: The Linked Data Cookbook be on a WG wiki now, but keep the option to move to non-WG wiki after the life of the WG to allow it to evolve over time.

PROPOSED: The Linked Data Cookbook be on a WG wiki now, but keep the option to move to non-WG wiki after the life of the WG to allow it to evolve over time. ←

10:47:00 <boris> r u writing the proposal?

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: r u writing the proposal? ←

10:47:00 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

10:47:00 <George> +1

George Thomas: +1 ←

10:47:00 <mhausenblas> +1

Michael Hausenblas: +1 ←

10:47:00 <gatemezi> I think it could be approved?

I think it could be approved? ←

10:48:00 <johnlsheridan> I should own up to knowing some things about procurement...

John Sheridan: I should own up to knowing some things about procurement... ←

10:48:00 <sandro> RESOLVED: The Linked Data Cookbook be on a WG wiki now, but keep the option to move to non-WG wiki after the life of the WG to allow it to evolve over time.

RESOLVED: The Linked Data Cookbook be on a WG wiki now, but keep the option to move to non-WG wiki after the life of the WG to allow it to evolve over time. ←

10:48:00 <HadleyBeeman> I can help with stability

Hadley Beeman: I can help with stability ←

10:48:00 <olyerickson> What is "stability" in this contxt

John Erickson: What is "stability" in this contxt ←

10:48:00 <gatemezi> thanks, Sandro

thanks, Sandro ←

10:48:00 <bhyland> Topic: Vocabulary, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Vocabulary_Discussion_Summary

3. Vocabulary, see http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Vocabulary_Discussion_Summary

10:49:00 <Zakim> +Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: +Sandro ←

10:49:00 <Zakim> - +1.617.489.aajj

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.617.489.aajj ←

10:49:00 <DruidSmith> +q

David Smith: +q ←

10:50:00 <olyerickson> I should be added to "Standard Vocabs" list of people...

John Erickson: I should be added to "Standard Vocabs" list of people... ←

10:50:00 <bhyland> Noted olyerickson.

Bernadette Hyland: Noted olyerickson. ←

10:50:00 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

10:51:00 <Simpson_2> +q

Bart van Leeuwen: +q ←

10:51:00 <bhyland> @olyerickson, do you want to put down a topic or area you are interested in supporting under Vocabularies please?

Bernadette Hyland: @olyerickson, do you want to put down a topic or area you are interested in supporting under Vocabularies please? ←

10:52:00 <DruidSmith> -q

David Smith: -q ←

10:52:00 <bkaempgen> q+

Benedikt Kaempgen: q+ ←

10:52:00 <olyerickson> "LOL"

John Erickson: "LOL" ←

10:53:00 <mhausenblas> q?

Michael Hausenblas: q? ←

10:53:00 <Simpson_2> +q

Bart van Leeuwen: +q ←

10:54:00 <bhyland> bkaempgen asked how to give feedback on the wiki page on Vocabulary Discussion.  He is interested in Cube Vocab but wants to give feedback on others too.

Bernadette Hyland: bkaempgen asked how to give feedback on the wiki page on Vocabulary Discussion. He is interested in Cube Vocab but wants to give feedback on others too. ←

10:54:00 <olyerickson> q+

John Erickson: q+ ←

10:54:00 <olyerickson> +1 to "create a (comment) page and link to it..."

John Erickson: +1 to "create a (comment) page and link to it..." ←

10:55:00 <bhyland> +1 to creating comment page linked from wiki if you have a lot of comments.

Bernadette Hyland: +1 to creating comment page linked from wiki if you have a lot of comments. ←

10:55:00 <mhausenblas> Michael: maybe NL should implement INSPIRE? :)

Michael Hausenblas: maybe NL should implement INSPIRE? :) [ Scribe Assist by Michael Hausenblas ] ←

10:56:00 <George> the wiki has a 'discussion' tab for topics/articles/pages

George Thomas: the wiki has a 'discussion' tab for topics/articles/pages ←

10:56:00 <mhausenblas> q+

Michael Hausenblas: q+ ←

10:56:00 <boris> q+

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: q+ ←

10:56:00 <gatemezi> George: you are right..

George Thomas: you are right.. ←

10:56:00 <bkaempgen> q-

Benedikt Kaempgen: q- ←

10:56:00 <bhyland> Bart: In EU, you have a lot of local gov't organizations who would have different encoding processes/methodologies/standards.

Bart van Leeuwen: In EU, you have a lot of local gov't organizations who would have different encoding processes/methodologies/standards. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←

10:57:00 <HadleyBeeman> q+

Hadley Beeman: q+ ←

10:57:00 <DruidSmith> If this is referring to NL-specific coordinate systems, there is a registry of spatial reference systems at the European Petroleum Survey Group which has most of the world's spatial reference systems

David Smith: If this is referring to NL-specific coordinate systems, there is a registry of spatial reference systems at the European Petroleum Survey Group which has most of the world's spatial reference systems ←

10:57:00 <bhyland> Bart: How do we capture regional specific ways of capturing information, it isn't the data that is specific, but how it is described by the region that unique.

Bart van Leeuwen: How do we capture regional specific ways of capturing information, it isn't the data that is specific, but how it is described by the region that unique. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←

10:58:00 <DruidSmith> http://www.epsg.org/ - EPSG is a recognized international standard for specifying coordinate systems within spatial databases, also there are WKT (Well Known Text) representations

David Smith: http://www.epsg.org/ - EPSG is a recognized international standard for specifying coordinate systems within spatial databases, also there are WKT (Well Known Text) representations ←

10:59:00 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

10:59:00 <bhyland> q- simpson

Bernadette Hyland: q- simpson ←

10:59:00 <bhyland> q- erickson

Bernadette Hyland: q- erickson ←

10:59:00 <mhausenblas> ack olyerickson

Michael Hausenblas: ack olyerickson ←

10:59:00 <ZacharyWhitley> this sould be contained within the geosparql spec

Zachary Whitley: this sould be contained within the geosparql spec ←

11:00:00 <bhyland> Resolved: Create a wiki page for discussion/background on topics related to the Deliverables.

RESOLVED: Create a wiki page for discussion/background on topics related to the Deliverables. ←

11:00:00 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

11:00:00 <mhausenblas> ack mhausenblas

Michael Hausenblas: ack mhausenblas ←

11:01:00 <bhyland> mhausenblas: Do discussions via mailing list.  Write structured, agreed to parts on the wiki.

Michael Hausenblas: Do discussions via mailing list. Write structured, agreed to parts on the wiki. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←

11:01:00 <gatemezi> RESOLVED: Create a wiki page for discussion/background on topics related to the Deliverable related to Geo spec/standards/methodologies

RESOLVED: Create a wiki page for discussion/background on topics related to the Deliverable related to Geo spec/standards/methodologies ←

11:01:00 <bhyland> +1 to mhausenblas approach for iteration

Bernadette Hyland: +1 to mhausenblas approach for iteration ←

11:01:00 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

11:02:00 <mhausenblas> ack boris

Michael Hausenblas: ack boris ←

11:02:00 <gatemezi> Do we have time to move to the 4th point?

Do we have time to move to the 4th point? ←

11:02:00 <bhyland> who is speaking now?

Bernadette Hyland: who is speaking now? ←

11:02:00 <Zakim> -TGheen

Zakim IRC Bot: -TGheen ←

11:02:00 <mhausenblas> http://data.semanticweb.org/person/asuncion-gomez-perez

Michael Hausenblas: http://data.semanticweb.org/person/asuncion-gomez-perez ←

11:03:00 <boris> thanks michael

Boris Villazón-Terrazas: thanks michael ←

11:03:00 <bhyland> q?

Bernadette Hyland: q? ←

11:04:00 <gatemezi> Zakim, who is on the phone?

Zakim, who is on the phone? ←

11:04:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see ZacharyWhitley, +1.540.898.aabb, wbrafford, bkaempgen, mhausenblas, +1.202.566.aaff (muted), George, cory-c, +1.518.276.aahh, Yigal, hadleybeeman, Simpson_2,

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see ZacharyWhitley, +1.540.898.aabb, wbrafford, bkaempgen, mhausenblas, +1.202.566.aaff (muted), George, cory-c, +1.518.276.aahh, Yigal, hadleybeeman, Simpson_2, ←

11:04:00 <Zakim> ... +1.757.604.aakk, DruidSmith, ??P50, ??P1, Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.757.604.aakk, DruidSmith, ??P50, ??P1, Sandro ←

11:04:00 <Zakim> mhausenblas has mhausenblas, boris

Zakim IRC Bot: mhausenblas has mhausenblas, boris ←

11:04:00 <mhausenblas> Zakim, list participants

Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, list participants ←

11:04:00 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +1.540.898.aabb, +1.443.708.aacc, +49.721.aadd, mhausenblas, +1.540.645.aaee, +1.202.566.aaff, wbrafford, bkaempgen, TGheen, boris,

Zakim IRC Bot: As of this point the attendees have been +1.540.898.aabb, +1.443.708.aacc, +49.721.aadd, mhausenblas, +1.540.645.aaee, +1.202.566.aaff, wbrafford, bkaempgen, TGheen, boris, ←

11:04:00 <Zakim> ... +1.202.690.aagg, George, ZacharyWhitley, +1.518.276.aahh, hadleybeeman, Yigal, +1.617.489.aajj, Simpson_2, +1.757.604.aakk, cory-c, +1.202.566.aall, DruidSmith, Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: ... +1.202.690.aagg, George, ZacharyWhitley, +1.518.276.aahh, hadleybeeman, Yigal, +1.617.489.aajj, Simpson_2, +1.757.604.aakk, cory-c, +1.202.566.aall, DruidSmith, Sandro ←

11:05:00 <Simpson_2> +1

Bart van Leeuwen: +1 ←

11:05:00 <johnlsheridan> Bye

John Sheridan: Bye ←

11:05:00 <Simpson_2> thx bye

Bart van Leeuwen: thx bye ←

11:05:00 <Zakim> - +1.202.566.aaff

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.202.566.aaff ←

11:05:00 <George> bye

George Thomas: bye ←

11:05:00 <Zakim> -mhausenblas

Zakim IRC Bot: -mhausenblas ←

11:05:00 <bhyland> adjourned

Bernadette Hyland: adjourned ←

11:05:00 <Steeman> Thanks

Gerald Steeman: Thanks ←

11:05:00 <Zakim> -Sandro

Zakim IRC Bot: -Sandro ←

11:05:00 <Zakim> -Simpson_2

Zakim IRC Bot: -Simpson_2 ←

11:05:00 <Zakim> -hadleybeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: -hadleybeeman ←

11:05:00 <Zakim> - +1.518.276.aahh

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.518.276.aahh ←

11:05:00 <Zakim> -bkaempgen

Zakim IRC Bot: -bkaempgen ←

11:05:00 <Zakim> -Yigal

Zakim IRC Bot: -Yigal ←

11:05:00 <Zakim> -George

Zakim IRC Bot: -George ←

11:05:00 <Zakim> -DruidSmith

Zakim IRC Bot: -DruidSmith ←

11:06:00 <Zakim> -cory-c

Zakim IRC Bot: -cory-c ←

11:06:00 <bhyland> Ghislain, are you familiar with the process for writing the minutes using zakim?

Bernadette Hyland: Ghislain, are you familiar with the process for writing the minutes using zakim? ←

11:06:00 <Zakim> - +1.540.898.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: - +1.540.898.aabb ←

11:06:00 <Zakim> -ZacharyWhitley

Zakim IRC Bot: -ZacharyWhitley ←

11:06:00 <Zakim> -wbrafford

Zakim IRC Bot: -wbrafford ←

11:06:00 <Zakim> -??P50

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P50 ←



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