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12:54:40 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs 351
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12:54:42 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be DWBP ←
12:54:42 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot ←
12:54:43 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
12:54:43 <trackbot> Date: 28 August 2015
12:56:57 <newton> Guest: Newton Calegari
12:56:57 <newton> present+ newton
Newton Calegari: present+ newton ←
12:57:00 <newton> present+ yaso
Newton Calegari: present+ yaso ←
12:57:06 <newton> Zakim, newton has yaso
Newton Calegari: Zakim, newton has yaso ←
12:57:06 <Zakim> sorry, newton, I do not recognize a party named 'newton'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, newton, I do not recognize a party named 'newton' ←
12:57:27 <newton> Zakim
Newton Calegari: Zakim ←
12:57:49 <yaso> present+ yaso
Yaso Córdova: present+ yaso ←
13:00:31 <antoine> present+ antoine
Antoine Isaac: present+ antoine ←
13:00:57 <yaso> Newton is going to reconnect with my name, we are going to share the same computer today
Yaso Córdova: Newton is going to reconnect with my name, we are going to share the same computer today ←
13:01:39 <nandana> present+ nandana
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: present+ nandana ←
13:02:15 <yaso> present+ yaso
Yaso Córdova: present+ yaso ←
13:02:46 <MTCarrasco> present+ MTCarrasco
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: present+ MTCarrasco ←
13:02:51 <annette_g> present+ annette_g
Annette Greiner: present+ annette_g ←
13:03:15 <yaso> Hi Nandana, welcome!
Yaso Córdova: Hi Nandana, welcome! ←
13:03:42 <nandana> yaso, thanks :)
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: yaso, thanks :) ←
13:03:59 <yaso> scribe?
Yaso Córdova: scribe? ←
13:04:06 <MTCarrasco> zakim, mute me
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, mute me ←
13:04:06 <Zakim> sorry, MTCarrasco, I can't do that anymore
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, MTCarrasco, I can't do that anymore ←
13:04:37 <yaso> zakim, pick a victim
Yaso Córdova: zakim, pick a victim ←
13:04:37 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose yaso
Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose yaso ←
13:04:42 <yaso> chair: yaso
13:04:47 <yaso> zakim, pick a victim
Yaso Córdova: zakim, pick a victim ←
13:04:47 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose annette_g
Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose annette_g ←
13:05:27 <yaso> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150828
Yaso Córdova: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150828 ←
13:05:44 <yaso> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-08-28
Yaso Córdova: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-08-28 ←
13:05:46 <jerdeb> present+ jerdeb
Jeremy Debattista: present+ jerdeb ←
13:05:51 <annette_g> scribe: annette_g
(Scribe set to Annette Greiner)
13:06:19 <newton> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-08-21
Newton Calegari: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-08-21 ←
13:06:52 <annette_g> PROPOSED: approve last week's minutes
PROPOSED: approve last week's minutes ←
13:06:58 <newton> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
13:06:58 <yaso> +1
Yaso Córdova: +1 ←
13:07:03 <annette_g> +1
+1 ←
13:07:13 <antoine> +1
Antoine Isaac: +1 ←
13:07:27 <MTCarrasco> +1
13:07:30 <jerdeb> +1
Jeremy Debattista: +1 ←
13:07:39 <annette_g> RESOLVED: approve last week's minutes
RESOLVED: approve last week's minutes ←
13:07:49 <yaso> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150828
Yaso Córdova: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150828 ←
13:08:07 <yaso> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/181
Yaso Córdova: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/181 ←
13:08:21 <annette_g> yaso: this week we're talking about the data quality vocabulary
Yaso Córdova: this week we're talking about the data quality vocabulary ←
13:12:41 <antoine> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0133.html
Antoine Isaac: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0133.html ←
13:13:01 <annette_g> antoine: was hoping the agenda would start with really small issues, things we think we can close
Antoine Isaac: was hoping the agenda would start with really small issues, things we think we can close ←
13:13:33 <yaso> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/152
Yaso Córdova: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/152 ←
13:14:19 <yaso> PROPOSED: close the action 152
PROPOSED: close the ACTION-152 ←
13:14:43 <annette_g> PROPOSED: that we close action 152
PROPOSED: that we close ACTION-152 ←
13:14:57 <yaso> +1
Yaso Córdova: +1 ←
13:14:58 <annette_g> +1
+1 ←
13:15:05 <jerdeb> +1
Jeremy Debattista: +1 ←
13:15:09 <nandana> +1
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: +1 ←
13:15:29 <newton> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
13:15:54 <annette_g> RESOLVED: that we close action 152
RESOLVED: that we close ACTION-152 ←
13:16:18 <antoine> close action-152
Antoine Isaac: close ACTION-152 ←
13:16:18 <trackbot> Closed action-152.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-152. ←
13:17:08 <antoine> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/187
Antoine Isaac: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/187 ←
13:17:41 <antoine> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0069.html
Antoine Isaac: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0069.html ←
13:17:59 <annette_g> antoine: no one has ever reacted to this one
Antoine Isaac: no one has ever reacted to this one ←
13:18:22 <annette_g> … after sending messages to 5 different communities
… after sending messages to 5 different communities ←
13:20:13 <annette_g> PROPOSED: that we close action 187 and Antoine sends an email to the group detailing the response.
PROPOSED: that we close ACTION-187 and Antoine sends an email to the group detailing the response. ←
13:20:44 <yaso> +1
Yaso Córdova: +1 ←
13:20:48 <annette_g> +1
+1 ←
13:20:57 <jerdeb> +1
Jeremy Debattista: +1 ←
13:21:06 <annette_g> RESOLVED: that we close action 187 and Antoine sends an email to the group detailing the response.
RESOLVED: that we close ACTION-187 and Antoine sends an email to the group detailing the response. ←
13:21:37 <antoine> close action-187
Antoine Isaac: close ACTION-187 ←
13:21:37 <trackbot> Closed action-187.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-187. ←
13:21:42 <antoine> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/188
Antoine Isaac: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/188 ←
13:21:49 <nandana> it might be partially because there were a lot of people on vacations during August and we might still get some feedback
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: it might be partially because there were a lot of people on vacations during August and we might still get some feedback ←
13:22:24 <annette_g> jerdeb: I think we've covered it
Jeremy Debattista: I think we've covered it ←
13:22:58 <annette_g> PROPOSED: that we close issue 188
PROPOSED: that we close ISSUE-188 ←
13:23:02 <annette_g> +1
+1 ←
13:23:06 <yaso> +1
Yaso Córdova: +1 ←
13:23:23 <annette_g> RESOLVED: that we close issue 188
RESOLVED: that we close ISSUE-188 ←
13:23:47 <antoine> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/197
Antoine Isaac: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/197 ←
13:24:01 <annette_g> antoine: issue tracking and github
Antoine Isaac: issue tracking and github ←
13:25:30 <annette_g> yaso: the links were there because we had issue tracking on github, but not anymore
Yaso Córdova: the links were there because we had issue tracking on github, but not anymore ←
13:25:40 <annette_g> .. okay to close
.. okay to close ←
13:25:45 <antoine> PROPOSAL: to remove the link to Github
PROPOSED: to remove the link to Github ←
13:25:51 <annette_g> +1
+1 ←
13:25:55 <yaso> +1
Yaso Córdova: +1 ←
13:25:59 <nandana> +1
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: +1 ←
13:25:59 <jerdeb> +1
Jeremy Debattista: +1 ←
13:25:59 <newton> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
13:26:06 <MTCarrasco> +1
13:26:15 <annette_g> RESOLVED: to remove the link to Github
RESOLVED: to remove the link to Github ←
13:26:30 <antoine> close issue-197
Antoine Isaac: close ISSUE-197 ←
13:26:30 <trackbot> Closed issue-197.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ISSUE-197. ←
13:26:53 <antoine> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/180
Antoine Isaac: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/180 ←
13:28:17 <newton> present+ Caroline_
Newton Calegari: present+ Caroline_ ←
13:28:39 <yaso> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0134.html
Yaso Córdova: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0134.html ←
13:28:43 <annette_g> antoine: it seems reasonable to redefine in the DQV namespace, and say that it's equivalent to the DAQ term
Antoine Isaac: it seems reasonable to redefine in the DQV namespace, and say that it's equivalent to the DAQ term ←
13:29:08 <nandana> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0104.html
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0104.html ←
13:29:11 <yaso> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Jun/0058.html
Yaso Córdova: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Jun/0058.html ←
13:29:13 <annette_g> antoine: that's not the real one...
Antoine Isaac: that's not the real one... ←
13:30:01 <annette_g> yaso: it seems you've made two proposals. Is that right?
Yaso Córdova: it seems you've made two proposals. Is that right? ←
13:30:09 <antoine> the right email is https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0104.html
Antoine Isaac: the right email is https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0104.html ←
13:30:12 <annette_g> antoine: that's not the right email
Antoine Isaac: that's not the right email ←
13:30:28 <antoine> PROPOSAL: to re-define in the DQV namespace all the classes and properties we need to express quality metadata, and map the new classes and properties to the ones of DAQ
PROPOSED: to re-define in the DQV namespace all the classes and properties we need to express quality metadata, and map the new classes and properties to the ones of DAQ ←
13:31:06 <jerdeb> +1
Jeremy Debattista: +1 ←
13:31:08 <yaso> +1
Yaso Córdova: +1 ←
13:31:11 <annette_g> +1
+1 ←
13:31:17 <nandana> +1
Nandana Mihindukulasooriya: +1 ←
13:31:29 <newton> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
13:31:36 <Caroline_> +1
Caroline Burle: +1 ←
13:31:40 <annette_g> RESOLVED: to re-define in the DQV namespace all the classes and properties we need to express quality metadata, and map the new classes and properties to the ones of DAQ
RESOLVED: to re-define in the DQV namespace all the classes and properties we need to express quality metadata, and map the new classes and properties to the ones of DAQ ←
13:31:40 <MTCarrasco> 0
13:32:12 <annette_g> yaso: other issues to discuss today?
Yaso Córdova: other issues to discuss today? ←
13:32:39 <annette_g> antoine: is MTCarrasco okay with the resolution?
Antoine Isaac: is MTCarrasco okay with the resolution? ←
13:32:39 <antoine> closed issue-180
Antoine Isaac: closed ISSUE-180 ←
13:32:44 <annette_g> MTCarrasco: yes
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: yes ←
13:32:48 <antoine> close issue-180
Antoine Isaac: close ISSUE-180 ←
13:32:48 <trackbot> Closed issue-180.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ISSUE-180. ←
13:33:04 <antoine> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0134.html
Antoine Isaac: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0134.html ←
13:33:07 <annette_g> antoine: two other issues to discuss
Antoine Isaac: two other issues to discuss ←
13:34:14 <antoine> q+
Antoine Isaac: q+ ←
13:34:19 <annette_g> antoine: people may not want to discuss this now
Antoine Isaac: people may not want to discuss this now ←
13:34:34 <annette_g> yaso: we can talk via email, okay to discuss next week?
Yaso Córdova: we can talk via email, okay to discuss next week? ←
13:34:40 <antoine> q-
Antoine Isaac: q- ←
13:34:47 <yaso> ack jerdeb
Yaso Córdova: ack jerdeb ←
13:34:48 <annette_g> antoine: yes, but I'd like to get Jeremy's opinion
Antoine Isaac: yes, but I'd like to get Jeremy's opinion ←
13:35:06 <annette_g> jerdeb: yes, I'll reply via email, need to catch up after being out last week.
Jeremy Debattista: yes, I'll reply via email, need to catch up after being out last week. ←
13:35:08 <newton> q+ about ISSUE-146
Newton Calegari: q+ about ISSUE-146 ←
13:35:14 <annette_g> yaso: timetables for the F2F
Yaso Córdova: timetables for the F2F ←
13:35:17 <newton> q- about
Newton Calegari: q- about ←
13:35:22 <newton> q- ISSUE-146
Newton Calegari: q- ISSUE-146 ←
13:35:27 <yaso> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0129.html
Yaso Córdova: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0129.html ←
13:35:29 <newton> q+
Newton Calegari: q+ ←
13:35:49 <yaso> ack newton
Yaso Córdova: ack newton ←
13:35:59 <annette_g> yaso: newton and Caroline_ are you guys comfortable with the timetable?
Yaso Córdova: newton and Caroline_ are you guys comfortable with the timetable? ←
13:36:13 <annette_g> newton: two issues, first is 146
Newton Calegari: two issues, first is 146 ←
13:36:15 <newton> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/146
Newton Calegari: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/146 ←
13:37:02 <MTCarrasco> q+
13:37:09 <yaso> ack MTCarrasco
Yaso Córdova: ack MTCarrasco ←
13:37:10 <annette_g> newton: we plan to remove all the normative terms and replace with plain English. Maybe we need more people to have quorum
Newton Calegari: we plan to remove all the normative terms and replace with plain English. Maybe we need more people to have quorum ←
13:37:25 <yaso> +1 to MTCarrasco
Yaso Córdova: +1 to MTCarrasco ←
13:37:28 <newton> +1 to MTCarrasco
Newton Calegari: +1 to MTCarrasco ←
13:37:39 <annette_g> MTCarrasco: we have to be careful with the term normative. Usually it applies to specifications, not best practices
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: we have to be careful with the term normative. Usually it applies to specifications, not best practices ←
13:37:44 <annette_g> +1
+1 ←
13:37:58 <annette_g> newton: I agree with MTCarrasco
Newton Calegari: I agree with MTCarrasco ←
13:38:20 <annette_g> … but we need more voters
… but we need more voters ←
13:38:47 <annette_g> yaso: we can send out email to the group asking for feedback.
Yaso Córdova: we can send out email to the group asking for feedback. ←
13:38:53 <annette_g> newton: I will do that
Newton Calegari: I will do that ←
13:39:03 <newton> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/194
Newton Calegari: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/194 ←
13:39:23 <annette_g> newton: next issue about data identification
Newton Calegari: next issue about data identification ←
13:39:50 <annette_g> is annette_g okay with Phil's change?
is annette_g okay with Phil's change? ←
13:40:36 <annette_g> annette_g: it's marked as on DUV, but it's about BP
Annette Greiner: it's marked as on DUV, but it's about BP ←
13:41:04 <annette_g> newton: I can change that
Newton Calegari: I can change that ←
13:41:04 <antoine> close action-188
Antoine Isaac: close ACTION-188 ←
13:41:04 <trackbot> Closed action-188.
Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-188. ←
13:41:29 <MTCarrasco> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#DataIdentification
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#DataIdentification ←
13:41:30 <annette_g> annette_g: where are the changes?
Annette Greiner: where are the changes? ←
13:41:47 <MTCarrasco> q+
13:41:48 <annette_g> annette_g: I'll look at it and respond on email
Annette Greiner: I'll look at it and respond on email ←
13:42:32 <annette_g> yaso: Newton, maybe we should make an action about finding feedback?
Yaso Córdova: Newton, maybe we should make an action about finding feedback? ←
13:42:39 <annette_g> newton: not needed
Newton Calegari: not needed ←
13:43:26 <annette_g> yaso: any updates on the timetable?
Yaso Córdova: any updates on the timetable? ←
13:43:41 <annette_g> newton: yes, but we need more of a quorum to discuss, so will do via email
Newton Calegari: yes, but we need more of a quorum to discuss, so will do via email ←
13:44:14 <annette_g> q+
q+ ←
13:44:28 <yaso> Ack MTCarrasco
Yaso Córdova: Ack MTCarrasco ←
13:44:37 <annette_g> yaso: we are out of topics
Yaso Córdova: we are out of topics ←
13:45:10 <annette_g> MTCarrasco: is what is online showing Phli's changes?
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: is what is online showing Phli's changes? ←
13:45:25 <MTCarrasco> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#DataIdentification
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#DataIdentification ←
13:45:39 <annette_g> newton: the changes are online
Newton Calegari: the changes are online ←
13:45:44 <yaso> ack annette_g
Yaso Córdova: ack annette_g ←
13:46:42 <MTCarrasco> annette_g +1
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: annette_g +1 ←
13:47:13 <annette_g> annette_g: the question of removing the descriptions of URI, IRI, and URL are still in there. My suggestion was to remove them.
Annette Greiner: the question of removing the descriptions of URI, IRI, and URL are still in there. My suggestion was to remove them. ←
13:47:34 <annette_g> MTCarrasco: we need to resolve this forever and minimize, just call it URI and forget about the rest
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: we need to resolve this forever and minimize, just call it URI and forget about the rest ←
13:47:48 <annette_g> newton: okay, let's keep discussing via email
Newton Calegari: okay, let's keep discussing via email ←
13:48:01 <annette_g> MTCarrasco: this can go on forever
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: this can go on forever ←
13:48:15 <annette_g> newton: maybe Phil can have some input
Newton Calegari: maybe Phil can have some input ←
13:48:45 <annette_g> MTCarrasco: I suggest to call it URI everywhere and forget about it
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: I suggest to call it URI everywhere and forget about it ←
13:48:51 <annette_g> q+
q+ ←
13:49:05 <annette_g> newton: okay, I got it
Newton Calegari: okay, I got it ←
13:49:06 <yaso> ack annette_g
Yaso Córdova: ack annette_g ←
13:49:30 <yaso> annette_g: maybe one thing to do is make the changes to the doc and let the people respond to that
Annette Greiner: maybe one thing to do is make the changes to the doc and let the people respond to that [ Scribe Assist by Yaso Córdova ] ←
13:49:36 <annette_g> annette_g: suggests making the change in the doc and letting people comment on that
Annette Greiner: suggests making the change in the doc and letting people comment on that ←
13:49:58 <annette_g> yaso: are you okay with that?
Yaso Córdova: are you okay with that? ←
13:50:10 <annette_g> MTCarrasco: yes! anything that can close the issue I'm quite happy with
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: yes! anything that can close the issue I'm quite happy with ←
13:50:44 <annette_g> MTCarrasco: anything we write on this is going to be quite naive, best to leave it as simple as possible
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: anything we write on this is going to be quite naive, best to leave it as simple as possible ←
13:50:47 <annette_g> newton: I agree
Newton Calegari: I agree ←
13:50:54 <MTCarrasco> http://dragoman.org/comuri.html
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: http://dragoman.org/comuri.html ←
13:51:23 <annette_g> yaso: any other topics?
Yaso Córdova: any other topics? ←
13:51:44 <annette_g> yaso: we have a lot of issues to talk about via email, so we'll finish early
Yaso Córdova: we have a lot of issues to talk about via email, so we'll finish early ←
13:51:50 <MTCarrasco> bye
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: bye ←
13:51:54 <annette_g> bye all!
bye all! ←
13:51:55 <jerdeb> bye
Jeremy Debattista: bye ←
13:52:15 <yaso> RRSAgent, make logs public
Yaso Córdova: RRSAgent, make logs public ←
13:53:34 <yaso> Bye all
Yaso Córdova: Bye all ←
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