IRC log of dwbp on 2015-08-28
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/08/28-dwbp-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs 351
- 12:54:40 [Zakim]
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- Zakim, this will be DWBP
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- I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
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- Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 28 August 2015
- 12:56:57 [newton]
- present+ newton
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- present+ yaso
- 12:57:06 [newton]
- Zakim, newton has yaso
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- sorry, newton, I do not recognize a party named 'newton'
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- Zakim
- 12:57:49 [yaso]
- present+ yaso
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- present+ antoine
- 13:00:50 [annette_g]
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- Newton is going to reconnect with my name, we are going to share the same computer today
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- 13:01:39 [nandana]
- present+ nandana
- 13:02:15 [yaso]
- present+ yaso
- 13:02:46 [MTCarrasco]
- present+ MTCarrasco
- 13:02:51 [annette_g]
- present+ annette_g
- 13:03:15 [yaso]
- Hi Nandana, welcome!
- 13:03:20 [jerdeb]
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- 13:03:42 [nandana]
- yaso, thanks :)
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- scribe?
- 13:04:06 [MTCarrasco]
- zakim, mute me
- 13:04:06 [Zakim]
- sorry, MTCarrasco, I can't do that anymore
- 13:04:37 [yaso]
- zakim, pick a victim
- 13:04:37 [Zakim]
- Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose yaso
- 13:04:42 [yaso]
- chair: yaso
- 13:04:47 [yaso]
- zakim, pick a victim
- 13:04:47 [Zakim]
- Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose annette_g
- 13:05:27 [yaso]
- https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150828
- 13:05:44 [yaso]
- http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-08-28
- 13:05:46 [jerdeb]
- present+ jerdeb
- 13:05:51 [annette_g]
- scribe: annette_g
- 13:06:19 [newton]
- http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-08-21
- 13:06:52 [annette_g]
- PROPOSED: approve last week's minutes
- 13:06:58 [newton]
- +1
- 13:06:58 [yaso]
- +1
- 13:07:03 [annette_g]
- +1
- 13:07:13 [antoine]
- +1
- 13:07:27 [MTCarrasco]
- +1
- 13:07:30 [jerdeb]
- +1
- 13:07:39 [annette_g]
- RESOLVED: approve last week's minutes
- 13:07:49 [yaso]
- https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150828
- 13:08:07 [yaso]
- http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/181
- 13:08:21 [annette_g]
- yaso: this week we're talking about the data quality vocabulary
- 13:12:41 [antoine]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0133.html
- 13:13:01 [annette_g]
- antoine: was hoping the agenda would start with really small issues, things we think we can close
- 13:13:33 [yaso]
- https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/152
- 13:14:19 [yaso]
- PROPOSED: close the action 152
- 13:14:43 [annette_g]
- PROPOSED: that we close action 152
- 13:14:57 [yaso]
- +1
- 13:14:58 [annette_g]
- +1
- 13:15:05 [jerdeb]
- +1
- 13:15:09 [nandana]
- +1
- 13:15:29 [newton]
- +1
- 13:15:54 [annette_g]
- RESOLVED: that we close action 152
- 13:16:18 [antoine]
- close action-152
- 13:16:18 [trackbot]
- Closed action-152.
- 13:17:08 [antoine]
- https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/187
- 13:17:41 [antoine]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0069.html
- 13:17:59 [annette_g]
- antoine: no one has ever reacted to this one
- 13:18:22 [annette_g]
- … after sending messages to 5 different communities
- 13:20:13 [annette_g]
- PROPOSED: that we close action 187 and Antoine sends an email to the group detailing the response.
- 13:20:44 [yaso]
- +1
- 13:20:48 [annette_g]
- +1
- 13:20:57 [jerdeb]
- +1
- 13:21:06 [annette_g]
- RESOLVED: that we close action 187 and Antoine sends an email to the group detailing the response.
- 13:21:37 [antoine]
- close action-187
- 13:21:37 [trackbot]
- Closed action-187.
- 13:21:42 [antoine]
- https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/188
- 13:21:49 [nandana]
- it might be partially because there were a lot of people on vacations during August and we might still get some feedback
- 13:22:24 [annette_g]
- jerdeb: I think we've covered it
- 13:22:58 [annette_g]
- PROPOSED: that we close issue 188
- 13:23:02 [annette_g]
- +1
- 13:23:06 [yaso]
- +1
- 13:23:23 [annette_g]
- RESOLVED: that we close issue 188
- 13:23:47 [antoine]
- https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/197
- 13:24:01 [annette_g]
- antoine: issue tracking and github
- 13:25:30 [annette_g]
- yaso: the links were there because we had issue tracking on github, but not anymore
- 13:25:40 [annette_g]
- .. okay to close
- 13:25:45 [antoine]
- PROPOSAL: to remove the link to Github
- 13:25:51 [annette_g]
- +1
- 13:25:55 [yaso]
- +1
- 13:25:59 [nandana]
- +1
- 13:25:59 [jerdeb]
- +1
- 13:25:59 [newton]
- +1
- 13:26:06 [MTCarrasco]
- +1
- 13:26:15 [annette_g]
- RESOLVED: to remove the link to Github
- 13:26:30 [antoine]
- close issue-197
- 13:26:30 [trackbot]
- Closed issue-197.
- 13:26:53 [antoine]
- https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/180
- 13:28:15 [Caroline_]
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- present+ Caroline_
- 13:28:39 [yaso]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0134.html
- 13:28:43 [annette_g]
- antoine: it seems reasonable to redefine in the DQV namespace, and say that it's equivalent to the DAQ term
- 13:29:08 [nandana]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0104.html
- 13:29:11 [yaso]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Jun/0058.html
- 13:29:13 [annette_g]
- antoine: that's not the real one...
- 13:30:01 [annette_g]
- yaso: it seems you've made two proposals. Is that right?
- 13:30:09 [antoine]
- the right email is https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0104.html
- 13:30:12 [annette_g]
- antoine: that's not the right email
- 13:30:28 [antoine]
- PROPOSAL: to re-define in the DQV namespace all the classes and properties we need to express quality metadata, and map the new classes and properties to the ones of DAQ
- 13:31:06 [jerdeb]
- +1
- 13:31:08 [yaso]
- +1
- 13:31:11 [annette_g]
- +1
- 13:31:17 [nandana]
- +1
- 13:31:29 [newton]
- +1
- 13:31:36 [Caroline_]
- +1
- 13:31:40 [annette_g]
- RESOLVED: to re-define in the DQV namespace all the classes and properties we need to express quality metadata, and map the new classes and properties to the ones of DAQ
- 13:31:40 [MTCarrasco]
- 0
- 13:32:12 [annette_g]
- yaso: other issues to discuss today?
- 13:32:39 [annette_g]
- antoine: is MTCarrasco okay with the resolution?
- 13:32:39 [antoine]
- closed issue-180
- 13:32:44 [annette_g]
- MTCarrasco: yes
- 13:32:48 [antoine]
- close issue-180
- 13:32:48 [trackbot]
- Closed issue-180.
- 13:33:04 [antoine]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0134.html
- 13:33:07 [annette_g]
- antoine: two other issues to discuss
- 13:34:14 [antoine]
- q+
- 13:34:19 [annette_g]
- antoine: people may not want to discuss this now
- 13:34:34 [annette_g]
- yaso: we can talk via email, okay to discuss next week?
- 13:34:40 [antoine]
- q-
- 13:34:47 [yaso]
- ack jerdeb
- 13:34:48 [annette_g]
- antoine: yes, but I'd like to get Jeremy's opinion
- 13:35:06 [annette_g]
- jerdeb: yes, I'll reply via email, need to catch up after being out last week.
- 13:35:08 [newton]
- q+ about ISSUE-146
- 13:35:14 [annette_g]
- yaso: timetables for the F2F
- 13:35:17 [newton]
- q- about
- 13:35:22 [newton]
- q- ISSUE-146
- 13:35:27 [yaso]
- https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0129.html
- 13:35:29 [newton]
- q+
- 13:35:49 [yaso]
- ack newton
- 13:35:59 [annette_g]
- yaso: newton and Caroline_ are you guys comfortable with the timetable?
- 13:36:13 [annette_g]
- newton: two issues, first is 146
- 13:36:15 [newton]
- http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/146
- 13:37:02 [MTCarrasco]
- q+
- 13:37:09 [yaso]
- ack MTCarrasco
- 13:37:10 [annette_g]
- newton: we plan to remove all the normative terms and replace with plain English. Maybe we need more people to have quorum
- 13:37:25 [yaso]
- +1 to MTCarrasco
- 13:37:28 [newton]
- +1 to MTCarrasco
- 13:37:39 [annette_g]
- MTCarrasco: we have to be careful with the term normative. Usually it applies to specifications, not best practices
- 13:37:44 [annette_g]
- +1
- 13:37:58 [annette_g]
- newton: I agree with MTCarrasco
- 13:38:20 [annette_g]
- … but we need more voters
- 13:38:47 [annette_g]
- yaso: we can send out email to the group asking for feedback.
- 13:38:53 [annette_g]
- newton: I will do that
- 13:39:03 [newton]
- http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/194
- 13:39:23 [annette_g]
- newton: next issue about data identification
- 13:39:50 [annette_g]
- is annette_g okay with Phil's change?
- 13:40:36 [annette_g]
- annette_g: it's marked as on DUV, but it's about BP
- 13:41:04 [annette_g]
- newton: I can change that
- 13:41:04 [antoine]
- close action-188
- 13:41:04 [trackbot]
- Closed action-188.
- 13:41:29 [MTCarrasco]
- http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#DataIdentification
- 13:41:30 [annette_g]
- annette_g: where are the changes?
- 13:41:47 [MTCarrasco]
- q+
- 13:41:48 [annette_g]
- annette_g: I'll look at it and respond on email
- 13:42:32 [annette_g]
- yaso: Newton, maybe we should make an action about finding feedback?
- 13:42:39 [annette_g]
- newton: not needed
- 13:43:26 [annette_g]
- yaso: any updates on the timetable?
- 13:43:41 [annette_g]
- newton: yes, but we need more of a quorum to discuss, so will do via email
- 13:44:14 [annette_g]
- q+
- 13:44:28 [yaso]
- Ack MTCarrasco
- 13:44:37 [annette_g]
- yaso: we are out of topics
- 13:45:10 [annette_g]
- MTCarrasco: is what is online showing Phli's changes?
- 13:45:25 [MTCarrasco]
- http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#DataIdentification
- 13:45:39 [annette_g]
- newton: the changes are online
- 13:45:44 [yaso]
- ack annette_g
- 13:46:42 [MTCarrasco]
- annette_g +1
- 13:47:13 [annette_g]
- annette_g: the question of removing the descriptions of URI, IRI, and URL are still in there. My suggestion was to remove them.
- 13:47:34 [annette_g]
- MTCarrasco: we need to resolve this forever and minimize, just call it URI and forget about the rest
- 13:47:48 [annette_g]
- newton: okay, let's keep discussing via email
- 13:48:01 [annette_g]
- MTCarrasco: this can go on forever
- 13:48:15 [annette_g]
- newton: maybe Phil can have some input
- 13:48:45 [annette_g]
- MTCarrasco: I suggest to call it URI everywhere and forget about it
- 13:48:51 [annette_g]
- q+
- 13:49:05 [annette_g]
- newton: okay, I got it
- 13:49:06 [yaso]
- ack annette_g
- 13:49:30 [yaso]
- annette_g: maybe one thing to do is make the changes to the doc and let the people respond to that
- 13:49:36 [annette_g]
- annette_g: suggests making the change in the doc and letting people comment on that
- 13:49:58 [annette_g]
- yaso: are you okay with that?
- 13:50:10 [annette_g]
- MTCarrasco: yes! anything that can close the issue I'm quite happy with
- 13:50:44 [annette_g]
- MTCarrasco: anything we write on this is going to be quite naive, best to leave it as simple as possible
- 13:50:47 [annette_g]
- newton: I agree
- 13:50:54 [MTCarrasco]
- http://dragoman.org/comuri.html
- 13:51:23 [annette_g]
- yaso: any other topics?
- 13:51:44 [annette_g]
- yaso: we have a lot of issues to talk about via email, so we'll finish early
- 13:51:50 [MTCarrasco]
- bye
- 13:51:54 [annette_g]
- bye all!
- 13:51:55 [jerdeb]
- bye
- 13:52:15 [yaso]
- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Bye all
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