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12:54:42 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DWBP
12:54:42 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
12:54:43 <trackbot> Meeting: Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference
12:54:43 <trackbot> Date: 28 August 2015
12:56:57 <newton> present+ newton
12:57:00 <newton> present+ yaso
12:57:06 <newton> Zakim, newton has yaso
12:57:06 <Zakim> sorry, newton, I do not recognize a party named 'newton'
12:57:27 <newton> Zakim
12:57:49 <yaso> present+ yaso
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13:00:57 <yaso> Newton is going to reconnect with my name, we are going to share the same computer today
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13:01:39 <nandana> present+ nandana
13:02:15 <yaso> present+ yaso
13:02:46 <MTCarrasco> present+ MTCarrasco
13:02:51 <annette_g> present+ annette_g
13:03:15 <yaso> Hi Nandana, welcome!
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13:03:42 <nandana> yaso, thanks :)
13:03:59 <yaso> scribe?
13:04:06 <MTCarrasco> zakim, mute me
13:04:06 <Zakim> sorry, MTCarrasco, I can't do that anymore
13:04:37 <yaso> zakim, pick a victim
13:04:37 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose yaso
13:04:42 <yaso> chair: yaso
13:04:47 <yaso> zakim, pick a victim
13:04:47 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose annette_g
13:05:27 <yaso> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150828
13:05:44 <yaso> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-08-28
13:05:46 <jerdeb> present+ jerdeb
13:05:51 <annette_g> scribe: annette_g
13:06:19 <newton> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-08-21
13:06:52 <annette_g> PROPOSED: approve last week's minutes
13:06:58 <newton> +1
13:06:58 <yaso> +1
13:07:03 <annette_g> +1
13:07:13 <antoine> +1
13:07:27 <MTCarrasco> +1
13:07:30 <jerdeb> +1
13:07:39 <annette_g> RESOLVED: approve last week's minutes
13:07:49 <yaso> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150828
13:08:07 <yaso> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/181
13:08:21 <annette_g> yaso:  this week we're talking about the data quality vocabulary
13:12:41 <antoine> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0133.html
13:13:01 <annette_g> antoine:  was hoping the agenda would start with really small issues, things we think we can close
13:13:33 <yaso> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/152
13:14:19 <yaso> PROPOSED: close the action 152
13:14:43 <annette_g> PROPOSED: that we close action 152
13:14:57 <yaso> +1
13:14:58 <annette_g> +1
13:15:05 <jerdeb> +1
13:15:09 <nandana> +1
13:15:29 <newton> +1
13:15:54 <annette_g> RESOLVED: that we close action 152
13:16:18 <antoine> close action-152
13:16:18 <trackbot> Closed action-152.
13:17:08 <antoine> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/187
13:17:41 <antoine> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0069.html
13:17:59 <annette_g> antoine:  no one has ever reacted to this one
13:18:22 <annette_g> … after sending messages to 5 different communities
13:20:13 <annette_g> PROPOSED: that we close action 187 and Antoine sends an email to the group detailing the response.
13:20:44 <yaso> +1
13:20:48 <annette_g> +1
13:20:57 <jerdeb> +1
13:21:06 <annette_g> RESOLVED: that we close action 187 and Antoine sends an email to the group detailing the response.
13:21:37 <antoine> close action-187
13:21:37 <trackbot> Closed action-187.
13:21:42 <antoine> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/188
13:21:49 <nandana> it might be partially because there were a lot of people on vacations during August and we might still get some feedback
13:22:24 <annette_g> jerdeb:  I think we've covered it
13:22:58 <annette_g> PROPOSED: that we close issue 188
13:23:02 <annette_g> +1
13:23:06 <yaso> +1
13:23:23 <annette_g> RESOLVED: that we close issue 188
13:23:47 <antoine> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/197
13:24:01 <annette_g> antoine:  issue tracking and github
13:25:30 <annette_g> yaso:  the links were there because we had issue tracking on github, but not anymore
13:25:40 <annette_g> .. okay to close
13:25:45 <antoine> PROPOSAL: to remove the link to Github
13:25:51 <annette_g> +1
13:25:55 <yaso> +1
13:25:59 <nandana> +1
13:25:59 <jerdeb> +1
13:25:59 <newton> +1
13:26:06 <MTCarrasco> +1
13:26:15 <annette_g> RESOLVED: to remove the link to Github
13:26:30 <antoine> close issue-197
13:26:30 <trackbot> Closed issue-197.
13:26:53 <antoine> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/180
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13:28:17 <newton> present+ Caroline_
13:28:39 <yaso> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0134.html
13:28:43 <annette_g> antoine:  it seems reasonable to redefine in the DQV namespace, and say that it's equivalent to the DAQ term
13:29:08 <nandana> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0104.html
13:29:11 <yaso> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Jun/0058.html
13:29:13 <annette_g> antoine:  that's not the real one...
13:30:01 <annette_g> yaso:  it seems you've made two proposals. Is that right?
13:30:09 <antoine> the right email is https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0104.html
13:30:12 <annette_g> antoine:  that's not the right email
13:30:28 <antoine> PROPOSAL: to re-define in the DQV namespace all the classes and properties we need to express quality metadata, and map the new classes and properties to the ones of DAQ
13:31:06 <jerdeb> +1
13:31:08 <yaso> +1
13:31:11 <annette_g> +1
13:31:17 <nandana> +1
13:31:29 <newton> +1
13:31:36 <Caroline_> +1
13:31:40 <annette_g> RESOLVED: to re-define in the DQV namespace all the classes and properties we need to express quality metadata, and map the new classes and properties to the ones of DAQ
13:31:40 <MTCarrasco> 0
13:32:12 <annette_g> yaso:  other issues to discuss today?
13:32:39 <annette_g> antoine:  is MTCarrasco okay with the resolution?
13:32:39 <antoine> closed issue-180
13:32:44 <annette_g> MTCarrasco:  yes
13:32:48 <antoine> close issue-180
13:32:48 <trackbot> Closed issue-180.
13:33:04 <antoine> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0134.html
13:33:07 <annette_g> antoine:  two other issues to discuss
13:34:14 <antoine> q+
13:34:19 <annette_g> antoine:  people may not want to discuss this now
13:34:34 <annette_g> yaso:  we can talk via email, okay to discuss next week?
13:34:40 <antoine> q-
13:34:47 <yaso> ack jerdeb
13:34:48 <annette_g> antoine:  yes, but I'd like to get Jeremy's opinion
13:35:06 <annette_g> jerdeb:  yes, I'll reply via email, need to catch up after being out last week.
13:35:08 <newton> q+ about ISSUE-146
13:35:14 <annette_g> yaso:  timetables for the F2F
13:35:17 <newton> q- about
13:35:22 <newton> q- ISSUE-146
13:35:27 <yaso> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-dwbp-wg/2015Aug/0129.html
13:35:29 <newton> q+
13:35:49 <yaso> ack newton
13:35:59 <annette_g> yaso:  newton and Caroline_ are you guys comfortable with the timetable?
13:36:13 <annette_g> newton:  two issues, first is 146
13:36:15 <newton> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/146
13:37:02 <MTCarrasco> q+
13:37:09 <yaso> ack MTCarrasco
13:37:10 <annette_g> newton:  we plan to remove all the normative terms and replace with plain English. Maybe we need more people to have quorum
13:37:25 <yaso> +1 to MTCarrasco
13:37:28 <newton> +1 to MTCarrasco
13:37:39 <annette_g> MTCarrasco:  we have to be careful with the term normative. Usually it applies to specifications, not best practices
13:37:44 <annette_g> +1
13:37:58 <annette_g> newton:  I agree with MTCarrasco
13:38:20 <annette_g> … but we need more voters
13:38:47 <annette_g> yaso:  we can send out email to the group asking for feedback.
13:38:53 <annette_g> newton:  I will do that
13:39:03 <newton> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/194
13:39:23 <annette_g> newton:  next issue about data identification
13:39:50 <annette_g> is annette_g okay with Phil's change?
13:40:36 <annette_g> annette_g:  it's marked as on DUV, but it's about BP
13:41:04 <annette_g> newton:  I can change that
13:41:04 <antoine> close action-188
13:41:04 <trackbot> Closed action-188.
13:41:29 <MTCarrasco> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#DataIdentification
13:41:30 <annette_g> annette_g: where are the changes?
13:41:47 <MTCarrasco> q+
13:41:48 <annette_g> annette_g:  I'll look at it and respond on email
13:42:32 <annette_g> yaso:  Newton, maybe we should make an action about finding feedback?
13:42:39 <annette_g> newton:  not needed
13:43:26 <annette_g> yaso:  any updates on the timetable?
13:43:41 <annette_g> newton:  yes, but we need more of a quorum to discuss, so will do via email
13:44:14 <annette_g> q+
13:44:28 <yaso> Ack MTCarrasco
13:44:37 <annette_g> yaso:  we are out of topics
13:45:10 <annette_g> MTCarrasco:  is what is online showing Phli's changes?
13:45:25 <MTCarrasco> http://w3c.github.io/dwbp/bp.html#DataIdentification
13:45:39 <annette_g> newton:  the changes are online
13:45:44 <yaso> ack annette_g
13:46:42 <MTCarrasco> annette_g +1
13:47:13 <annette_g> annette_g:  the question of removing the descriptions of URI, IRI, and URL are still in there. My suggestion was to remove them.
13:47:34 <annette_g> MTCarrasco:  we need to resolve this forever and minimize, just call it URI and forget about the rest
13:47:48 <annette_g> newton:  okay, let's keep discussing via email
13:48:01 <annette_g> MTCarrasco:  this can go on forever
13:48:15 <annette_g> newton:  maybe Phil can have some input
13:48:45 <annette_g> MTCarrasco:  I suggest to call it URI everywhere and forget about it
13:48:51 <annette_g> q+
13:49:05 <annette_g> newton:  okay, I got it
13:49:06 <yaso> ack annette_g
13:49:30 <yaso> annette_g: maybe one thing to do is make the changes to the doc and let the people respond to that
13:49:36 <annette_g> annette_g:  suggests making the change in the doc and letting people comment on that
13:49:58 <annette_g> yaso:  are you okay with that?
13:50:10 <annette_g> MTCarrasco:  yes! anything that can close the issue I'm quite happy with
13:50:44 <annette_g> MTCarrasco:  anything we write on this is going to be quite naive, best to leave it as simple as possible
13:50:47 <annette_g> newton:  I agree
13:50:54 <MTCarrasco> http://dragoman.org/comuri.html
13:51:23 <annette_g> yaso:  any other topics?
13:51:44 <annette_g> yaso:  we have a lot of issues to talk about via email, so we'll finish early
13:51:50 <MTCarrasco> bye
13:51:54 <annette_g> bye all!
13:51:55 <jerdeb> bye
13:52:15 <yaso> RRSAgent, make logs public
13:53:34 <yaso> Bye all
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