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DWBP weekly

Minutes of 13 February 2015

Agenda
https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150213
Seen
Adriano Pereira, Annette Greiner, Bernadette Farias Loscio, Carlos Laufer, Caroline Burle, Eric Stephan, Hadley Beeman, Lewis Mcgibbney, Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício, Newton Calegari, Phil Archer, Riccardo Albertoni, Steven Adler, Yaso Córdova
Guests
Newton Calegari
Chair
Hadley Beeman
Scribe
Riccardo Albertoni
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-02-06 link
Topics
13:58:48 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/02/13-dwbp-irc

RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2015/02/13-dwbp-irc

14:01:28 <phila> zakim, this is dwbp

Phil Archer: zakim, this is dwbp

14:01:28 <phila> Guest: Newton Calegari
14:01:28 <Zakim> ok, phila; that matches DATA_DWBP()9:00AM

Zakim IRC Bot: ok, phila; that matches DATA_DWBP()9:00AM

14:01:34 <Zakim> + +39.349.096.aacc

Zakim IRC Bot: + +39.349.096.aacc

14:01:35 <phila> zakim, [ is me

Phil Archer: zakim, [ is me

14:01:35 <Zakim> +phila; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +phila; got it

14:01:50 <riccardoAlbertoni> zakim, +39.349.096.aacc is me

Riccardo Albertoni: zakim, +39.349.096.aacc is me

14:01:50 <Zakim> +riccardoAlbertoni; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +riccardoAlbertoni; got it

14:01:56 <riccardoAlbertoni> hi to all!

Riccardo Albertoni: hi to all!

14:01:58 <phila> zakim, phila has hadleybeeman

Phil Archer: zakim, phila has hadleybeeman

14:01:58 <Zakim> +hadleybeeman; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +hadleybeeman; got it

14:02:03 <hadleybeeman> hadleybeeman has changed the topic to: agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150213

Hadley Beeman: hadleybeeman has changed the topic to: agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150213

14:02:18 <lewismc> zakim, +626 487 is me

Lewis Mcgibbney: zakim, +626 487 is me

14:02:18 <Zakim> I don't understand '+626 487 is me', lewismc

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand '+626 487 is me', lewismc

14:02:38 <phila> zakim, who is here?

Phil Archer: zakim, who is here?

14:02:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.626.487.aaaa, annette_g, phila, riccardoAlbertoni

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see +1.626.487.aaaa, annette_g, phila, riccardoAlbertoni

14:02:41 <Zakim> phila has hadleybeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: phila has hadleybeeman

14:02:41 <Zakim> On IRC I see ericstephan, BernadetteLoscio, AdrianoC-UFMG, Ig_Bittencourt, lewismc, riccardoAlbertoni, yaso, annette_g, RRSAgent, Zakim, jtandy, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see ericstephan, BernadetteLoscio, AdrianoC-UFMG, Ig_Bittencourt, lewismc, riccardoAlbertoni, yaso, annette_g, RRSAgent, Zakim, jtandy, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro,

14:02:42 <Zakim> ... sandro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... sandro, trackbot

14:02:48 <lewismc> zakim, +626.487.aaaa is me

Lewis Mcgibbney: zakim, +626.487.aaaa is me

14:02:48 <Zakim> sorry, lewismc, I do not recognize a party named '+626.487.aaaa'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, lewismc, I do not recognize a party named '+626.487.aaaa'

14:02:59 <lewismc> aaaa is me

Lewis Mcgibbney: aaaa is me

14:03:04 <phila> zakim, aaaa is me

Phil Archer: zakim, aaaa is me

14:03:04 <Zakim> +phila; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +phila; got it

14:03:13 <lewismc> zakim, aaaa is me

Lewis Mcgibbney: zakim, aaaa is me

14:03:13 <Zakim> sorry, lewismc, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, lewismc, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'

14:03:21 <phila> zakim, phila is really lewismc

Phil Archer: zakim, phila is really lewismc

14:03:21 <Zakim> +lewismc; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +lewismc; got it

14:03:31 <phila> zakim, who is here?

Phil Archer: zakim, who is here?

14:03:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see phila.a, annette_g, lewismc, riccardoAlbertoni

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see phila.a, annette_g, lewismc, riccardoAlbertoni

14:03:33 <Zakim> On IRC I see laufer, ericstephan, BernadetteLoscio, AdrianoC-UFMG, Ig_Bittencourt, lewismc, riccardoAlbertoni, yaso, annette_g, RRSAgent, Zakim, jtandy, phila, hadleybeeman,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see laufer, ericstephan, BernadetteLoscio, AdrianoC-UFMG, Ig_Bittencourt, lewismc, riccardoAlbertoni, yaso, annette_g, RRSAgent, Zakim, jtandy, phila, hadleybeeman,

14:03:33 <Zakim> ... rhiaro, sandro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... rhiaro, sandro, trackbot

14:03:44 <phila> zakim, phila.a is me

Phil Archer: zakim, phila.a is me

14:03:44 <Zakim> +phila; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +phila; got it

14:03:59 <Zakim> +ericstephan

Zakim IRC Bot: +ericstephan

14:04:03 <hadleybeeman> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150213

Hadley Beeman: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150213

14:04:10 <phila> chair: hadleybeeman
14:04:24 <phila> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150213
14:04:39 <phila> meeting: DWBP weekly
14:04:51 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:05:05 <phila> zakim, [ is laufer

Phil Archer: zakim, [ is laufer

14:05:05 <Zakim> +laufer; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +laufer; got it

14:05:14 <laufer> zakim, ipcaller is me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, ipcaller is me

14:05:14 <Zakim> sorry, laufer, I do not recognize a party named 'ipcaller'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, laufer, I do not recognize a party named 'ipcaller'

14:05:18 <phila> scribe please?

Phil Archer: scribe please?

14:05:19 <hadleybeeman> zakim, pick a victim

Hadley Beeman: zakim, pick a victim

14:05:19 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose ericstephan

Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose ericstephan

14:05:23 <Zakim> +Yaso

Zakim IRC Bot: +Yaso

14:05:29 <laufer> zakim, IPcaller is me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, IPcaller is me

14:05:29 <Zakim> sorry, laufer, I do not recognize a party named 'IPcaller'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, laufer, I do not recognize a party named 'IPcaller'

14:05:35 <yaso2> Zakim, I have Nathalia and Newton

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, I have Nathalia and Newton

14:05:35 <Zakim> I don't understand 'I have Nathalia and Newton', yaso2

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'I have Nathalia and Newton', yaso2

14:05:40 <lewismc> I cannot scribe I am sorry I need to jump off about half way

Lewis Mcgibbney: I cannot scribe I am sorry I need to jump off about half way

14:05:43 <hadleybeeman> zakim, pick a victim

Hadley Beeman: zakim, pick a victim

14:05:43 <yaso2> Zakim, yaso has nathalia and newton

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, yaso has nathalia and newton

14:05:44 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose ericstephan

Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose ericstephan

14:05:46 <Zakim> +nathalia, newton; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +nathalia, newton; got it

14:05:48 <hadleybeeman> zakim, pick a victim

Hadley Beeman: zakim, pick a victim

14:05:48 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose riccardoAlbertoni

Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose riccardoAlbertoni

14:06:01 <laufer> zakim, mute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me

14:06:01 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted

14:06:06 <phila> scribe: riccardoAlbertoni

(Scribe set to Riccardo Albertoni)

14:06:25 <hadleybeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-02-06

Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-02-06

14:06:53 <riccardoAlbertoni> PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-02-06

PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-02-06

14:07:07 <ericstephan> +1

Eric Stephan: +1

14:07:13 <lewismc> +1

Lewis Mcgibbney: +1

14:07:16 <laufer> +1

Carlos Laufer: +1

14:07:19 <riccardoAlbertoni> 0

0

14:07:26 <hadleybeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

14:07:30 <annette_g> +1

Annette Greiner: +1

14:07:35 <Zakim> +Steve

Zakim IRC Bot: +Steve

14:07:38 <phila> Not present

Phil Archer: Not present

14:07:43 <newton> +1

Newton Calegari: +1

14:08:06 <laufer> \me hi steve

Carlos Laufer: \me hi steve

14:08:08 <adler1> +1

Steven Adler: +1

14:08:21 <riccardoAlbertoni> RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-02-06

RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-02-06

14:08:23 <AdrianoC-UFMG> +1

Adriano Pereira: +1

14:08:34 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:08:37 <Caroline_> Zakim, yaso2 has Caroline_

Caroline Burle: Zakim, yaso2 has Caroline_

14:08:37 <Zakim> sorry, Caroline_, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso2'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, Caroline_, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso2'

14:08:39 <BernadetteLoscio_> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

14:08:39 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it

14:09:14 <newton> Zakim, who's here?

Newton Calegari: Zakim, who's here?

14:09:14 <Zakim> On the phone I see phila, annette_g, lewismc, riccardoAlbertoni, ericstephan, laufer (muted), Yaso, Steve, BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see phila, annette_g, lewismc, riccardoAlbertoni, ericstephan, laufer (muted), Yaso, Steve, BernadetteLoscio

14:09:17 <Zakim> Yaso has nathalia, newton

Zakim IRC Bot: Yaso has nathalia, newton

14:09:17 <Zakim> On IRC I see Caroline_, nathalia, newton, BernadetteLoscio_, yaso2, adler1, laufer, ericstephan, AdrianoC-UFMG, Ig_Bittencourt, lewismc, riccardoAlbertoni, annette_g, RRSAgent,

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see Caroline_, nathalia, newton, BernadetteLoscio_, yaso2, adler1, laufer, ericstephan, AdrianoC-UFMG, Ig_Bittencourt, lewismc, riccardoAlbertoni, annette_g, RRSAgent,

14:09:17 <Zakim> ... Zakim, jtandy, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, sandro, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: ... Zakim, jtandy, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, sandro, trackbot

14:09:26 <BernadetteLoscio_> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

14:09:27 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

14:09:39 <newton> Zakim, Yaso has Caroline_

Newton Calegari: Zakim, Yaso has Caroline_

14:09:39 <Zakim> +Caroline_; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Caroline_; got it

14:09:51 <newton> Zakim, Yaso has nathalia, newton

Newton Calegari: Zakim, Yaso has nathalia, newton

14:09:51 <Zakim> +nathalia, newton; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +nathalia, newton; got it

14:10:03 <BernadetteLoscio_> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

14:10:03 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

14:10:24 <riccardoAlbertoni> hadleybeeman: Best practice document  we should vote if to publish it next week but first lest have  an update from editors

Hadley Beeman: Best practice document we should vote if to publish it next week but first lest have an update from editors

14:10:24 <phila> Topic: Best practices document

1. Best practices document

14:10:34 <phila> -> https://bernafarias.github.io/dwbp/bp.html Latest version of the BP doc

Phil Archer: -> https://bernafarias.github.io/dwbp/bp.html Latest version of the BP doc

14:10:58 <riccardoAlbertoni> BernadetteLoscio_:  some changes happen and the last version with changes is on BernadetteLoscio_ 's repository

Bernadette Farias Loscio: some changes happen and the last version with changes is on BernadetteLoscio_ 's repository

14:11:29 <riccardoAlbertoni> .. working on metadata section

.. working on metadata section

14:11:36 <Zakim> +[GVoice]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[GVoice]

14:12:04 <riccardoAlbertoni> tehy have reorganized moving some section licence ect

tehy have reorganized moving some section licence ect

14:12:29 <AdrianoC-UFMG> Zakim, +[GVoice] is AdrianoC-UFMG

Adriano Pereira: Zakim, +[GVoice] is AdrianoC-UFMG

14:12:29 <Zakim> sorry, AdrianoC-UFMG, I do not recognize a party named '+[GVoice]'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, AdrianoC-UFMG, I do not recognize a party named '+[GVoice]'

14:12:42 <riccardoAlbertoni> data identification section has been changed and still might need improvements

data identification section has been changed and still might need improvements

14:13:18 <phila> zakim, [ is AdrianoC-UFMG

Phil Archer: zakim, [ is AdrianoC-UFMG

14:13:18 <Zakim> +AdrianoC-UFMG; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +AdrianoC-UFMG; got it

14:13:21 <riccardoAlbertoni> yet not clear the relation between vocabularies and schema (???)

yet not clear the relation between vocabularies and schema (???)

14:13:48 <riccardoAlbertoni> still thinking about maturity model

still thinking about maturity model

14:15:03 <AdrianoC-UFMG> Zakim, [GVoice] is AdrianoC-UFMG

Adriano Pereira: Zakim, [GVoice] is AdrianoC-UFMG

14:15:03 <Zakim> sorry, AdrianoC-UFMG, I do not recognize a party named '[GVoice]'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, AdrianoC-UFMG, I do not recognize a party named '[GVoice]'

14:15:26 <riccardoAlbertoni> should we use the terms vocabulary or not, vocabulary is a little related to linked data so the section probably need more discussions, not clear the relation between metadata and vocabulary sections

should we use the terms vocabulary or not, vocabulary is a little related to linked data so the section probably need more discussions, not clear the relation between metadata and vocabulary sections

14:16:08 <annette_g> q+

Annette Greiner: q+

14:16:30 <hadleybeeman> ack a

Hadley Beeman: ack a

14:16:31 <riccardoAlbertoni> is really best practices on how to provide vocabularies in our scope ?  more discussion ..

is really best practices on how to provide vocabularies in our scope ? more discussion ..

14:16:37 <riccardoAlbertoni> needed

needed

14:16:46 <AdrianoC-UFMG> Zakim, [GVoice] is me

Adriano Pereira: Zakim, [GVoice] is me

14:16:46 <Zakim> sorry, AdrianoC-UFMG, I do not recognize a party named '[GVoice]'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, AdrianoC-UFMG, I do not recognize a party named '[GVoice]'

14:17:49 <phila> I think we're talking about thuhttps://bernafarias.github.io/dwbp/bp.html

Phil Archer: I think we're talking about thuhttps://bernafarias.github.io/dwbp/bp.html

14:17:54 <AdrianoC-UFMG> Ok, Hadley, thanks a lot! ;-) Thanks Phil! Great!

Adriano Pereira: Ok, Hadley, thanks a lot! ;-) Thanks Phil! Great!

14:17:57 <phila> I think we're talking about this https://bernafarias.github.io/dwbp/bp.html

Phil Archer: I think we're talking about this https://bernafarias.github.io/dwbp/bp.html

14:18:04 <riccardoAlbertoni> annette_g:  not seeing the versioning under metadata section ..

Annette Greiner: not seeing the versioning under metadata section ..

14:19:16 <hadleybeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

14:19:33 <laufer> q+

Carlos Laufer: q+

14:19:54 <laufer> zakim, unmute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, unmute me

14:19:54 <Zakim> laufer should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should no longer be muted

14:19:57 <hadleybeeman> ack l

Hadley Beeman: ack l

14:20:10 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio

14:20:18 <riccardoAlbertoni> laufer: can we make comment on the document?

Carlos Laufer: can we make comment on the document?

14:20:45 <riccardoAlbertoni> the first BP is documenti metadata, there is a little confusion about

the first BP is documenti metadata, there is a little confusion about

14:22:14 <riccardoAlbertoni> providing and udestand ametadata

providing and udestand ametadata

14:22:52 <riccardoAlbertoni> we are not suggesting how to provide the metadata .. (??)

we are not suggesting how to provide the metadata .. (??)

14:23:15 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:23:24 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

14:23:24 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it

14:23:45 <laufer> how to provide de documentatio about the metadaata, riccardo

Carlos Laufer: how to provide de documentatio about the metadaata, riccardo

14:23:47 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio

14:23:47 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

14:23:52 <riccardoAlbertoni> hadleybeeman:  could you make your suggestion raising an issues so that the discussion can be take place ?

Hadley Beeman: could you make your suggestion raising an issues so that the discussion can be take place ?

14:24:23 <hadleybeeman> issue: we might write more structured ways of documenting metadata in the Best Practices document (Laufer)

ISSUE: we might write more structured ways of documenting metadata in the Best Practices document (Laufer)

14:24:23 <trackbot> Created ISSUE-147 - We might write more structured ways of documenting metadata in the best practices document (laufer).  Please complete additional details at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/147/edit>.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ISSUE-147 - We might write more structured ways of documenting metadata in the best practices document (laufer). Please complete additional details at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/147/edit>.

14:24:35 <phila> q+

Phil Archer: q+

14:24:39 <phila> q-

Phil Archer: q-

14:24:39 <hadleybeeman> ack me

Hadley Beeman: ack me

14:25:20 <riccardoAlbertoni> phila: laufer is say that some wording is confusing  ..

Phil Archer: laufer is say that some wording is confusing ..

14:25:32 <laufer> q+

Carlos Laufer: q+

14:25:38 <hadleybeeman> ack lau

Hadley Beeman: ack lau

14:26:24 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio

14:26:24 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted

14:26:28 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

14:26:28 <hadleybeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

14:26:32 <annette_g> q+

Annette Greiner: q+

14:26:43 <riccardoAlbertoni> laufer: it is important to provide the documentation about metadata, but we should be more precise about the name of the BP. .

Carlos Laufer: it is important to provide the documentation about metadata, but we should be more precise about the name of the BP. .

14:27:08 <hadleybeeman> ack bern

Hadley Beeman: ack bern

14:27:51 <riccardoAlbertoni> BernadetteLoscio: what laufer  does mean about human readable metadata?

Bernadette Farias Loscio: what laufer does mean about human readable metadata?

14:27:59 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio

14:28:35 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

14:28:39 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

14:28:39 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it

14:28:54 <hadleybeeman> q?

Hadley Beeman: q?

14:29:53 <riccardoAlbertoni> BernadetteLoscio: what i have in mind .. is when you publish data you should provide metadata but you can provide metadata as document and as machine readable way

Bernadette Farias Loscio: what i have in mind .. is when you publish data you should provide metadata but you can provide metadata as document and as machine readable way

14:30:16 <riccardoAlbertoni> I want to make clear the distinction among the two

I want to make clear the distinction among the two

14:31:09 <phila> Suggest s/Documenting metadata is fundamental when publishing data on the Web.../Metadata is fundamental when publishing data on the Web.../

Phil Archer: Suggest s/Documenting metadata is fundamental when publishing data on the Web.../Metadata is fundamental when publishing data on the Web.../

14:31:20 <hadleybeeman> ^^ text from the document

Hadley Beeman: ^^ text from the document

14:31:46 <hadleybeeman> ack a

Hadley Beeman: ack a

14:32:46 <hadleybeeman> q+ to talk about where we are in the process of publishing this document

Hadley Beeman: q+ to talk about where we are in the process of publishing this document

14:32:58 <riccardoAlbertoni> BernadetteLoscio: we didn't make changes in the section ...

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we didn't make changes in the section ...

14:33:08 <riccardoAlbertoni> annette_g: are we allowed to make changes ?

Annette Greiner: are we allowed to make changes ?

14:34:14 <laufer> zakim, mute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me

14:34:14 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted

14:34:21 <riccardoAlbertoni> BernadetteLoscio: it like we are working on parallel with two versiona.. since i don't know if we can vote for a version that is continuously changes ..

Bernadette Farias Loscio: it like we are working on parallel with two versiona.. since i don't know if we can vote for a version that is continuously changes ..

14:34:41 <riccardoAlbertoni> hadleybeeman: why we have two versions please explain ..

Hadley Beeman: why we have two versions please explain ..

14:36:16 <riccardoAlbertoni> BernadetteLoscio: we have an official version that we will vote on and one on wching we are doing changes .. we have to decide if to keep the frzen version or merge the changes we did last week ..

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we have an official version that we will vote on and one on wching we are doing changes .. we have to decide if to keep the frzen version or merge the changes we did last week ..

14:37:00 <riccardoAlbertoni> phila: please merge the two versions, otherwise people get confused about which is the versions

Phil Archer: please merge the two versions, otherwise people get confused about which is the versions

14:37:25 <riccardoAlbertoni> BernadetteLoscio: we did this because of the vote .. to not postpone again the vote ..

Bernadette Farias Loscio: we did this because of the vote .. to not postpone again the vote ..

14:38:56 <riccardoAlbertoni> hadleybeeman: ... the review  is an ongoing process but we need to open up to people outside of the group ..

Hadley Beeman: ... the review is an ongoing process but we need to open up to people outside of the group ..

14:39:24 <riccardoAlbertoni> I propose to freeze the document now and vote the next week if we have to publish the document ..

I propose to freeze the document now and vote the next week if we have to publish the document ..

14:39:38 <riccardoAlbertoni> BernadetteLoscio: for me is ok, ..

Bernadette Farias Loscio: for me is ok, ..

14:39:43 <phila> q+

Phil Archer: q+

14:39:48 <hadleybeeman> ack me

Hadley Beeman: ack me

14:39:48 <Zakim> hadleybeeman, you wanted to talk about where we are in the process of publishing this document

Zakim IRC Bot: hadleybeeman, you wanted to talk about where we are in the process of publishing this document

14:40:12 <hadleybeeman> ack phila

Hadley Beeman: ack phila

14:40:28 <riccardoAlbertoni> what I'd like to know is if people want to review my latest view or the official frozen last week

what I'd like to know is if people want to review my latest view or the official frozen last week

14:40:49 <hadleybeeman> q+ to talk about the week ahead, before a vote

Hadley Beeman: q+ to talk about the week ahead, before a vote

14:41:36 <ericstephan> +1 phila

Eric Stephan: +1 phila

14:41:48 <riccardoAlbertoni> phila:  you are the editor you have the control, there are some comment from me and annette_g   that can be taken in account before publishing  the rest should be done afterwards

Phil Archer: you are the editor you have the control, there are some comment from me and annette_g that can be taken in account before publishing the rest should be done afterwards

14:42:30 <riccardoAlbertoni> please decide if you want merge or not.. and vote next week on a stable version  ..

please decide if you want merge or not.. and vote next week on a stable version ..

14:42:59 <annette_g> *notes that her comments apply to both versions*

Annette Greiner: *notes that her comments apply to both versions*

14:43:13 <Caroline_> we agree!

Caroline Burle: we agree!

14:43:50 <riccardoAlbertoni> BernadetteLoscio: if newton and others agree we are going to merge ..  send a message  warning that the document is ready for reviewer

Bernadette Farias Loscio: if newton and others agree we are going to merge .. send a message warning that the document is ready for reviewer

14:44:34 <annette_g> q+

Annette Greiner: q+

14:44:47 <phila> +1 to hadley

Phil Archer: +1 to hadley

14:44:50 <phila> ack hadleybeeman

Phil Archer: ack hadleybeeman

14:44:50 <Zakim> hadleybeeman, you wanted to talk about the week ahead, before a vote

Zakim IRC Bot: hadleybeeman, you wanted to talk about the week ahead, before a vote

14:45:16 <riccardoAlbertoni> hadleybeeman: please send a version by sunday (??) and the main issue next week is decide if there is a good reason to not publish the version you sent ..

Hadley Beeman: please send a version by sunday (??) and the main issue next week is decide if there is a good reason to not publish the version you sent ..

14:45:55 <riccardoAlbertoni> BernadetteLoscio: I'll try to have the document ready for Sunday or monday latest..

Bernadette Farias Loscio: I'll try to have the document ready for Sunday or monday latest..

14:46:21 <riccardoAlbertoni> hadleybeeman: the important think is not to think the work must be complete ..

Hadley Beeman: the important thing is not to thing the work must be complete ..

14:46:38 <riccardoAlbertoni> s/think/thing
14:46:38 <phila> ack annette_g

Phil Archer: ack annette_g

14:47:24 <phila> Topic: April Face to Face

2. April Face to Face

14:47:48 <riccardoAlbertoni> hadleybeeman: next thing in agenda F2f in april ..ack phila for an update

Hadley Beeman: next thing in agenda F2f in april ..ack phila for an update

14:47:58 <ericstephan> http://apachecon.com/

Eric Stephan: http://apachecon.com/

14:47:58 <phila> ApacheCon

Phil Archer: ApacheCon

14:48:09 <riccardoAlbertoni> noisy line..  i can't make .. :(

noisy line.. i can't make .. :(

14:48:12 <laufer> zakim, mute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me

14:48:13 <Zakim> laufer was already muted, laufer

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer was already muted, laufer

14:49:33 <ericstephan> q+

Eric Stephan: q+

14:49:41 <phila> ack ericstephan

Phil Archer: ack ericstephan

14:49:45 <riccardoAlbertoni> phila: two meeting rooms one in lisbon and on in texas

Phil Archer: two meeting rooms one in lisbon and on in texas

14:50:57 <riccardoAlbertoni> ericstephan: is it possble to start in lisbon  a little later so that the 6 hours between USA and lisbon are not a problem for teleconferencing  ..

Eric Stephan: is it possble to start in lisbon a little later so that the 6 hours between USA and lisbon are not a problem for teleconferencing ..

14:51:28 <riccardoAlbertoni> phila: should not be a big problem..  ..

Phil Archer: should not be a big problem.. ..

14:51:45 <riccardoAlbertoni> lisbon is in the west part of Europe

lisbon is in the west part of Europe

14:51:54 <annette_g> *thinks she should live in southern europe

Annette Greiner: *thinks she should live in southern europe

14:52:19 <Caroline_> are we voting for the F2F or it is decided: two meeting rooms one in lisbon and on in texas?

Caroline Burle: are we voting for the F2F or it is decided: two meeting rooms one in lisbon and on in texas?

14:53:52 <phila> action: phil to write to European WG members to see who will go to Lisbon

ACTION: phil to write to European WG members to see who will go to Lisbon

14:53:52 <trackbot> Created ACTION-139 - Write to european wg members to see who will go to lisbon [on Phil Archer - due 2015-02-20].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-139 - Write to european wg members to see who will go to lisbon [on Phil Archer - due 2015-02-20].

14:54:09 <Caroline_> when do we have to decide about the f2f?

Caroline Burle: when do we have to decide about the f2f?

14:54:26 <phila> It was resolved last week that the f2f would be 13 - 14 April

Phil Archer: It was resolved last week that the f2f would be 13 - 14 April

14:54:33 <Caroline_> ok, I remember that! But about the place...

Caroline Burle: ok, I remember that! But about the place...

14:54:44 <phila> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-02-06#resolution_1

Phil Archer: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-02-06#resolution_1

14:54:46 <lewismc> I need to go everyone, I will catch up with the tail end of these notes when they become available

Lewis Mcgibbney: I need to go everyone, I will catch up with the tail end of these notes when they become available

14:54:48 <lewismc> Thanks

Lewis Mcgibbney: Thanks

14:54:50 <Zakim> -phila

Zakim IRC Bot: -phila

14:55:07 <Caroline_> thank you, hadleybeeman

Caroline Burle: thank you, hadleybeeman

14:55:15 <ericstephan> thank you lewismc for everything!

Eric Stephan: thank you lewismc for everything!

14:55:24 <Zakim> -Steve

Zakim IRC Bot: -Steve

14:55:28 <laufer> bye bye

Carlos Laufer: bye bye

14:55:30 <phila> RRSAgent, make logs public

Phil Archer: RRSAgent, make logs public

14:55:36 <BernadetteLoscio> thak you!!!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: thak you!!!

14:55:37 <Caroline_> bye!

Caroline Burle: bye!

14:55:37 <ericstephan> thank you bp editors!  for all the hard work!!!

Eric Stephan: thank you bp editors! for all the hard work!!!

14:55:40 <nathalia> bye

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: bye

14:55:41 <riccardoAlbertoni> bye ..

bye ..

14:55:41 <BernadetteLoscio> bye bye

Bernadette Farias Loscio: bye bye

14:55:44 <Zakim> -annette_g

Zakim IRC Bot: -annette_g

14:55:44 <BernadetteLoscio> thank you!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: thank you!

14:55:45 <annette_g> bye!

Annette Greiner: bye!

14:55:46 <Zakim> -lewismc

Zakim IRC Bot: -lewismc

14:55:49 <Zakim> -ericstephan

Zakim IRC Bot: -ericstephan

14:55:49 <AdrianoC-UFMG> Bye, nice holiday, bye bye!

Adriano Pereira: Bye, nice holiday, bye bye!

14:55:51 <Zakim> -laufer

Zakim IRC Bot: -laufer

14:55:54 <Zakim> -Yaso

Zakim IRC Bot: -Yaso

14:56:00 <Zakim> -riccardoAlbertoni

Zakim IRC Bot: -riccardoAlbertoni

14:56:54 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio

14:56:57 <Zakim> -AdrianoC-UFMG

Zakim IRC Bot: -AdrianoC-UFMG

14:56:58 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended

14:56:58 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.626.487.aaaa, annette_g, +39.349.096.aabb, riccardoAlbertoni, hadleybeeman, lewismc, phila, ericstephan, laufer, nathalia, newton, Steve, BernadetteLoscio,

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were +1.626.487.aaaa, annette_g, +39.349.096.aabb, riccardoAlbertoni, hadleybeeman, lewismc, phila, ericstephan, laufer, nathalia, newton, Steve, BernadetteLoscio,

14:56:58 <Zakim> ... Caroline_, [GVoice], AdrianoC-UFMG

Zakim IRC Bot: ... Caroline_, [GVoice], AdrianoC-UFMG



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