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14:01:28 <phila> zakim, this is dwbp
14:01:28 <Zakim> ok, phila; that matches DATA_DWBP()9:00AM
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14:01:34 <Zakim> + +39.349.096.aacc
14:01:35 <phila> zakim, [ is me
14:01:35 <Zakim> +phila; got it
14:01:50 <riccardoAlbertoni> zakim, +39.349.096.aacc is me
14:01:50 <Zakim> +riccardoAlbertoni; got it
14:01:56 <riccardoAlbertoni> hi to all!
14:01:58 <phila> zakim, phila has hadleybeeman
14:01:58 <Zakim> +hadleybeeman; got it
14:02:03 <hadleybeeman> hadleybeeman has changed the topic to: agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150213
14:02:18 <lewismc> zakim, +626 487 is me
14:02:18 <Zakim> I don't understand '+626 487 is me', lewismc
14:02:30 <ericstephan> ericstephan has joined #dwbp
14:02:38 <phila> zakim, who is here?
14:02:38 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.626.487.aaaa, annette_g, phila, riccardoAlbertoni
14:02:41 <laufer> laufer has joined #DWBP
14:02:41 <Zakim> phila has hadleybeeman
14:02:41 <Zakim> On IRC I see ericstephan, BernadetteLoscio, AdrianoC-UFMG, Ig_Bittencourt, lewismc, riccardoAlbertoni, yaso, annette_g, RRSAgent, Zakim, jtandy, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro,
14:02:42 <Zakim> ... sandro, trackbot
14:02:48 <lewismc> zakim, +626.487.aaaa is me
14:02:48 <Zakim> sorry, lewismc, I do not recognize a party named '+626.487.aaaa'
14:02:59 <lewismc> aaaa is me
14:03:04 <phila> zakim, aaaa is me
14:03:04 <Zakim> +phila; got it
14:03:13 <lewismc> zakim, aaaa is me
14:03:13 <Zakim> sorry, lewismc, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
14:03:21 <phila> zakim, phila is really lewismc
14:03:21 <Zakim> +lewismc; got it
14:03:31 <phila> zakim, who is here?
14:03:32 <Zakim> On the phone I see phila.a, annette_g, lewismc, riccardoAlbertoni
14:03:33 <Zakim> On IRC I see laufer, ericstephan, BernadetteLoscio, AdrianoC-UFMG, Ig_Bittencourt, lewismc, riccardoAlbertoni, yaso, annette_g, RRSAgent, Zakim, jtandy, phila, hadleybeeman,
14:03:33 <Zakim> ... rhiaro, sandro, trackbot
14:03:41 <adler1> adler1 has joined #dwbp
14:03:44 <phila> zakim, phila.a is me
14:03:44 <Zakim> +phila; got it
14:03:54 <yaso2> yaso2 has joined #dwbp
14:03:55 <newton> newton has joined #dwbp
14:03:59 <Zakim> +ericstephan
14:04:03 <hadleybeeman> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150213
14:04:10 <phila> chair: hadleybeeman
14:04:24 <phila> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20150213
14:04:39 <phila> meeting: DWBP weekly
14:04:51 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:05:05 <phila> zakim, [ is laufer
14:05:05 <Zakim> +laufer; got it
14:05:14 <laufer> zakim, ipcaller is me
14:05:14 <Zakim> sorry, laufer, I do not recognize a party named 'ipcaller'
14:05:18 <phila> scribe please?
14:05:19 <hadleybeeman> zakim, pick a victim
14:05:19 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose ericstephan
14:05:23 <Zakim> +Yaso
14:05:29 <laufer> zakim, IPcaller is me
14:05:29 <Zakim> sorry, laufer, I do not recognize a party named 'IPcaller'
14:05:32 <BernadetteLoscio_> BernadetteLoscio_ has joined #dwbp
14:05:35 <yaso2> Zakim, I have Nathalia and Newton
14:05:35 <Zakim> I don't understand 'I have Nathalia and Newton', yaso2
14:05:40 <lewismc> I cannot scribe I am sorry I need to jump off about half way
14:05:43 <hadleybeeman> zakim, pick a victim
14:05:43 <yaso2> Zakim, yaso has nathalia and newton
14:05:44 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose ericstephan
14:05:46 <Zakim> +nathalia, newton; got it
14:05:48 <hadleybeeman> zakim, pick a victim
14:05:48 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose riccardoAlbertoni
14:06:01 <laufer> zakim, mute me
14:06:01 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted
14:06:06 <phila> scribe: riccardoAlbertoni
14:06:23 <newton> newton has joined #dwbp
14:06:25 <hadleybeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-02-06
14:06:53 <riccardoAlbertoni> PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-02-06
14:07:07 <ericstephan> +1
14:07:13 <lewismc> +1
14:07:16 <laufer> +1
14:07:19 <riccardoAlbertoni> 0
14:07:26 <hadleybeeman> +1
14:07:30 <annette_g> +1
14:07:35 <Zakim> +Steve
14:07:36 <nathalia> nathalia has joined #dwbp
14:07:38 <phila> Not present
14:07:43 <newton> +1
14:08:06 <laufer> \me hi steve
14:08:08 <adler1> +1
14:08:21 <riccardoAlbertoni> RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-02-06
14:08:23 <AdrianoC-UFMG> +1
14:08:29 <Caroline_> Caroline_ has joined #DWBP
14:08:34 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:08:37 <Caroline_> Zakim, yaso2 has Caroline_
14:08:37 <Zakim> sorry, Caroline_, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso2'
14:08:39 <BernadetteLoscio_> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio
14:08:39 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it
14:09:14 <newton> Zakim, who's here?
14:09:14 <Zakim> On the phone I see phila, annette_g, lewismc, riccardoAlbertoni, ericstephan, laufer (muted), Yaso, Steve, BernadetteLoscio
14:09:17 <Zakim> Yaso has nathalia, newton
14:09:17 <Zakim> On IRC I see Caroline_, nathalia, newton, BernadetteLoscio_, yaso2, adler1, laufer, ericstephan, AdrianoC-UFMG, Ig_Bittencourt, lewismc, riccardoAlbertoni, annette_g, RRSAgent,
14:09:17 <Zakim> ... Zakim, jtandy, phila, hadleybeeman, rhiaro, sandro, trackbot
14:09:26 <BernadetteLoscio_> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio
14:09:27 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted
14:09:39 <newton> Zakim, Yaso has Caroline_
14:09:39 <Zakim> +Caroline_; got it
14:09:51 <newton> Zakim, Yaso has nathalia, newton
14:09:51 <Zakim> +nathalia, newton; got it
14:10:03 <BernadetteLoscio_> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio
14:10:03 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted
14:10:24 <riccardoAlbertoni> hadleybeeman: Best practice document  we should vote if to publish it next week but first lest have  an update from editors
14:10:24 <phila> Topic: Best practices document
14:10:34 <phila> -> https://bernafarias.github.io/dwbp/bp.html Latest version of the BP doc
14:10:58 <riccardoAlbertoni> BernadetteLoscio_:  some changes happen and the last version with changes is on BernadetteLoscio_ 's repository
14:11:29 <riccardoAlbertoni> .. working on metadata section
14:11:36 <Zakim> +[GVoice]
14:12:04 <riccardoAlbertoni> tehy have reorganized moving some section licence ect
14:12:29 <AdrianoC-UFMG> Zakim, +[GVoice] is AdrianoC-UFMG
14:12:29 <Zakim> sorry, AdrianoC-UFMG, I do not recognize a party named '+[GVoice]'
14:12:42 <riccardoAlbertoni> data identification section has been changed and still might need improvements
14:13:18 <phila> zakim, [ is AdrianoC-UFMG
14:13:18 <Zakim> +AdrianoC-UFMG; got it
14:13:21 <riccardoAlbertoni> yet not clear the relation between vocabularies and schema (???)
14:13:48 <riccardoAlbertoni> still thinking about maturity model
14:15:03 <AdrianoC-UFMG> Zakim, [GVoice] is AdrianoC-UFMG
14:15:03 <Zakim> sorry, AdrianoC-UFMG, I do not recognize a party named '[GVoice]'
14:15:26 <riccardoAlbertoni> should we use the terms vocabulary or not, vocabulary is a little related to linked data so the section probably need more discussions, not clear the relation between metadata and vocabulary sections
14:16:08 <annette_g> q+
14:16:30 <hadleybeeman> ack a
14:16:31 <riccardoAlbertoni> is really best practices on how to provide vocabularies in our scope ?  more discussion ..
14:16:37 <riccardoAlbertoni> needed
14:16:46 <AdrianoC-UFMG> Zakim, [GVoice] is me
14:16:46 <Zakim> sorry, AdrianoC-UFMG, I do not recognize a party named '[GVoice]'
14:17:49 <phila> I think we're talking about thuhttps://bernafarias.github.io/dwbp/bp.html
14:17:54 <AdrianoC-UFMG> Ok, Hadley, thanks a lot! ;-) Thanks Phil! Great!
14:17:57 <phila> I think we're talking about this https://bernafarias.github.io/dwbp/bp.html
14:18:04 <riccardoAlbertoni> annette_g:  not seeing the versioning under metadata section ..
14:19:16 <hadleybeeman> q?
14:19:33 <laufer> q+
14:19:54 <laufer> zakim, unmute me
14:19:54 <Zakim> laufer should no longer be muted
14:19:57 <hadleybeeman> ack l
14:20:10 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio
14:20:18 <riccardoAlbertoni> laufer: can we make comment on the document?
14:20:45 <riccardoAlbertoni> the first BP is documenti metadata, there is a little confusion about
14:22:14 <riccardoAlbertoni> providing and udestand ametadata
14:22:51 <BernadetteLoscio> BernadetteLoscio has joined #dwbp
14:22:52 <riccardoAlbertoni> we are not suggesting how to provide the metadata .. (??)
14:23:15 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:23:24 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio
14:23:24 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it
14:23:45 <laufer> how to provide de documentatio about the metadaata, riccardo
14:23:47 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute BernadetteLoscio
14:23:47 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted
14:23:52 <riccardoAlbertoni> hadleybeeman:  could you make your suggestion raising an issues so that the discussion can be take place ?
14:24:23 <hadleybeeman> issue: we might write more structured ways of documenting metadata in the Best Practices document (Laufer)
14:24:23 <trackbot> Created ISSUE-147 - We might write more structured ways of documenting metadata in the best practices document (laufer).  Please complete additional details at <http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/147/edit>.
14:24:35 <phila> q+
14:24:39 <phila> q-
14:24:39 <hadleybeeman> ack me
14:25:20 <riccardoAlbertoni> phila: laufer is say that some wording is confusing  ..
14:25:32 <laufer> q+
14:25:38 <hadleybeeman> ack lau
14:26:24 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute BernadetteLoscio
14:26:24 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should no longer be muted
14:26:28 <BernadetteLoscio> q+
14:26:28 <hadleybeeman> q?
14:26:32 <annette_g> q+
14:26:43 <riccardoAlbertoni> laufer: it is important to provide the documentation about metadata, but we should be more precise about the name of the BP. .
14:27:08 <hadleybeeman> ack bern
14:27:51 <riccardoAlbertoni> BernadetteLoscio: what laufer  does mean about human readable metadata?
14:27:59 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio
14:28:35 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
14:28:39 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio
14:28:39 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it
14:28:54 <hadleybeeman> q?
14:29:53 <riccardoAlbertoni> BernadetteLoscio: what i have in mind .. is when you publish data you should provide metadata but you can provide metadata as document and as machine readable way
14:30:16 <riccardoAlbertoni> I want to make clear the distinction among the two
14:31:09 <phila> Suggest s/Documenting metadata is fundamental when publishing data on the Web.../Metadata is fundamental when publishing data on the Web.../
14:31:20 <hadleybeeman> ^^ text from the document
14:31:46 <hadleybeeman> ack a
14:32:46 <hadleybeeman> q+ to talk about where we are in the process of publishing this document
14:32:58 <riccardoAlbertoni> BernadetteLoscio: we didn't make changes in the section ...
14:33:08 <riccardoAlbertoni> annette_g: are we allowed to make changes ?
14:34:14 <laufer> zakim, mute me
14:34:14 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted
14:34:21 <riccardoAlbertoni> BernadetteLoscio: it like we are working on parallel with two versiona.. since i don't know if we can vote for a version that is continuously changes ..
14:34:41 <riccardoAlbertoni> hadleybeeman: why we have two versions please explain ..
14:36:16 <riccardoAlbertoni> BernadetteLoscio: we have an official version that we will vote on and one on wching we are doing changes .. we have to decide if to keep the frzen version or merge the changes we did last week ..
14:37:00 <riccardoAlbertoni> phila: please merge the two versions, otherwise people get confused about which is the versions
14:37:25 <riccardoAlbertoni> BernadetteLoscio: we did this because of the vote .. to not postpone again the vote ..
14:38:56 <riccardoAlbertoni> hadleybeeman: ... the review  is an ongoing process but we need to open up to people outside of the group ..
14:39:24 <riccardoAlbertoni> I propose to freeze the document now and vote the next week if we have to publish the document ..
14:39:38 <riccardoAlbertoni> BernadetteLoscio: for me is ok, ..
14:39:43 <phila> q+
14:39:48 <hadleybeeman> ack me
14:39:48 <Zakim> hadleybeeman, you wanted to talk about where we are in the process of publishing this document
14:40:12 <hadleybeeman> ack phila
14:40:28 <riccardoAlbertoni> what I'd like to know is if people want to review my latest view or the official frozen last week
14:40:49 <hadleybeeman> q+ to talk about the week ahead, before a vote
14:41:36 <ericstephan> +1 phila
14:41:48 <riccardoAlbertoni> phila:  you are the editor you have the control, there are some comment from me and annette_g   that can be taken in account before publishing  the rest should be done afterwards
14:42:30 <riccardoAlbertoni> please decide if you want merge or not.. and vote next week on a stable version  ..
14:42:59 <annette_g> *notes that her comments apply to both versions*
14:43:13 <Caroline_> we agree!
14:43:50 <riccardoAlbertoni> BernadetteLoscio: if newton and others agree we are going to merge ..  send a message  warning that the document is ready for reviewer
14:44:34 <annette_g> q+
14:44:47 <phila> +1 to hadley
14:44:50 <phila> ack hadleybeeman
14:44:50 <Zakim> hadleybeeman, you wanted to talk about the week ahead, before a vote
14:45:16 <riccardoAlbertoni> hadleybeeman: please send a version by sunday (??) and the main issue next week is decide if there is a good reason to not publish the version you sent ..
14:45:55 <riccardoAlbertoni> BernadetteLoscio: I'll try to have the document ready for Sunday or monday latest..
14:46:21 <riccardoAlbertoni> hadleybeeman: the important think is not to think the work must be complete ..
14:46:38 <riccardoAlbertoni> s/think/thing
14:46:38 <phila> ack annette_g
14:47:24 <phila> Topic: April Face to Face
14:47:48 <riccardoAlbertoni> hadleybeeman: next thing in agenda F2f in april ..ack phila for an update
14:47:58 <ericstephan> http://apachecon.com/
14:47:58 <phila> ApacheCon
14:48:09 <riccardoAlbertoni> noisy line..  i can't make .. :(
14:48:12 <laufer> zakim, mute me
14:48:13 <Zakim> laufer was already muted, laufer
14:49:33 <ericstephan> q+
14:49:41 <phila> ack ericstephan
14:49:45 <riccardoAlbertoni> phila: two meeting rooms one in lisbon and on in texas
14:50:57 <riccardoAlbertoni> ericstephan: is it possble to start in lisbon  a little later so that the 6 hours between USA and lisbon are not a problem for teleconferencing  ..
14:51:28 <riccardoAlbertoni> phila: should not be a big problem..  ..
14:51:45 <riccardoAlbertoni> lisbon is in the west part of Europe
14:51:54 <annette_g> *thinks she should live in southern europe
14:52:19 <Caroline_> are we voting for the F2F or it is decided: two meeting rooms one in lisbon and on in texas?
14:53:52 <phila> action: phil to write to European WG members to see who will go to Lisbon
14:53:52 <trackbot> Created ACTION-139 - Write to european wg members to see who will go to lisbon [on Phil Archer - due 2015-02-20].
14:54:09 <Caroline_> when do we have to decide about the f2f?
14:54:26 <phila> It was resolved last week that the f2f would be 13 - 14 April
14:54:33 <Caroline_> ok, I remember that! But about the place...
14:54:44 <phila> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2015-02-06#resolution_1
14:54:46 <lewismc> I need to go everyone, I will catch up with the tail end of these notes when they become available
14:54:48 <lewismc> Thanks
14:54:50 <Zakim> -phila
14:55:07 <Caroline_> thank you, hadleybeeman
14:55:15 <ericstephan> thank you lewismc for everything!
14:55:24 <Zakim> -Steve
14:55:28 <laufer> bye bye
14:55:30 <phila> RRSAgent, make logs public
14:55:36 <BernadetteLoscio> thak you!!!
14:55:37 <Caroline_> bye!
14:55:37 <ericstephan> thank you bp editors!  for all the hard work!!!
14:55:40 <nathalia> bye
14:55:41 <riccardoAlbertoni> bye ..
14:55:41 <BernadetteLoscio> bye bye
14:55:44 <Zakim> -annette_g
14:55:44 <BernadetteLoscio> thank you!
14:55:45 <annette_g> bye!
14:55:46 <Zakim> -lewismc
14:55:49 <Zakim> -ericstephan
14:55:49 <AdrianoC-UFMG> Bye, nice holiday, bye bye!
14:55:51 <Zakim> -laufer
14:55:54 <Zakim> -Yaso
14:56:00 <Zakim> -riccardoAlbertoni
14:56:54 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio
14:56:57 <Zakim> -AdrianoC-UFMG
14:56:58 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended
14:56:58 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.626.487.aaaa, annette_g, +39.349.096.aabb, riccardoAlbertoni, hadleybeeman, lewismc, phila, ericstephan, laufer, nathalia, newton, Steve, BernadetteLoscio,
14:56:58 <Zakim> ... Caroline_, [GVoice], AdrianoC-UFMG
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