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DWBP Weekly

Minutes of 06 June 2014

Agenda
https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140606
Seen
Bernadette Farias Loscio, Carlos Iglesias, Carlos Laufer, Caroline Burle, Christophe Gueret, Deirdre Lee, Eric Stephan, Hadley Beeman, Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto, Ivan Herman, Manuel Carrasco Benitez, Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício, Phil Archer, Steven Adler, Yaso Córdova
Chair
Hadley Beeman
IRC Log
Original
Resolutions
  1. Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-05-30 link
  2. action-22 link
Topics
12:54:22 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2014/06/06-dwbp-irc

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12:55:07 <PhilA_> Meeting: DWBP Weekly
12:55:13 <PhilA_> chair: Hadley
12:56:06 <PhilA_> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20140606
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12:58:28 <Zakim> Attendees were

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were

12:58:31 <adler1> hi Phil

Steven Adler: hi Phil

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12:58:47 <Zakim> +adler1

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12:59:23 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

12:59:36 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman

12:59:36 <laufer> zakim, ipcaller is me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, ipcaller is me

12:59:37 <Zakim> +laufer; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +laufer; got it

12:59:45 <ivan> zakim, code?

Ivan Herman: zakim, code?

12:59:45 <Zakim> the conference code is 3927 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), ivan

Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 3927 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), ivan

12:59:56 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:00:04 <PhilA_> zakim, ipcaller is me

Phil Archer: zakim, ipcaller is me

13:00:04 <Zakim> +PhilA_; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +PhilA_; got it

13:00:12 <Zakim> +Recorder

Zakim IRC Bot: +Recorder

13:00:15 <Zakim> +??P21

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P21

13:00:16 <Zakim> +??P20

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P20

13:00:16 <HadleyBeeman> zakim who is on the call?

Hadley Beeman: zakim who is on the call?

13:00:21 <ivan> zakim, Recorder is me

Ivan Herman: zakim, Recorder is me

13:00:21 <Zakim> +ivan; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +ivan; got it

13:00:26 <cgueret> zakim, ??P21 is me

Christophe Gueret: zakim, ??P21 is me

13:00:26 <Zakim> +cgueret; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cgueret; got it

13:00:29 <cgueret> I guess

Christophe Gueret: I guess

13:00:47 <cgueret> ok, I quite and re-join to see...

Christophe Gueret: ok, I quite and re-join to see...

13:00:50 <Zakim> -cgueret

Zakim IRC Bot: -cgueret

13:01:00 <Zakim> -??P20

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P20

13:01:17 <Zakim> +??P20

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P20

13:01:22 <PhilA_> zakim, who is here?

Phil Archer: zakim, who is here?

13:01:22 <Zakim> On the phone I see adler1, laufer, HadleyBeeman, PhilA_, ivan, ??P20

Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see adler1, laufer, HadleyBeeman, PhilA_, ivan, ??P20

13:01:22 <cgueret> zakim, ??P20 is me

Christophe Gueret: zakim, ??P20 is me

13:01:24 <Zakim> On IRC I see cgueret, HadleyBeeman, adler1, yaso, RRSAgent, Zakim, Ig_Bittencourt, PhilA_, laufer, ivan, trackbot

Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see cgueret, HadleyBeeman, adler1, yaso, RRSAgent, Zakim, Ig_Bittencourt, PhilA_, laufer, ivan, trackbot

13:01:24 <Zakim> +cgueret; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +cgueret; got it

13:01:38 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, pick a victim

Hadley Beeman: zakim, pick a victim

13:01:39 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose HadleyBeeman

13:01:42 <Zakim> +??P21

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P21

13:01:47 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, pick a victim

Hadley Beeman: zakim, pick a victim

13:01:47 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose cgueret

Zakim IRC Bot: Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose cgueret

13:01:55 <cgueret> ok

Christophe Gueret: ok

13:01:56 <Ig_Bittencourt> Zakim, ??P21 is me

Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: Zakim, ??P21 is me

13:01:57 <Zakim> +Ig_Bittencourt; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +Ig_Bittencourt; got it

13:02:04 <PhilA_> The chair is always excused from scribing - can't do both jobs

Phil Archer: The chair is always excused from scribing - can't do both jobs

13:02:04 <Ig_Bittencourt> Zakim, mute me

Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: Zakim, mute me

13:02:04 <Zakim> Ig_Bittencourt should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: Ig_Bittencourt should now be muted

13:02:13 <Zakim> + +3539149aaaa

Zakim IRC Bot: + +3539149aaaa

13:02:15 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-05-30

Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-05-30

13:02:27 <deirdrelee> zakim, +353 is me

Deirdre Lee: zakim, +353 is me

13:02:27 <Zakim> +deirdrelee; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +deirdrelee; got it

13:02:28 <cgueret> zakim, mute me

Christophe Gueret: zakim, mute me

13:02:29 <Zakim> cgueret should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: cgueret should now be muted

13:02:30 <PhilA_> PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-05-30

PROPOSED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-05-30

13:02:33 <Zakim> +Caroline

Zakim IRC Bot: +Caroline

13:02:34 <HadleyBeeman> +1

Hadley Beeman: +1

13:02:34 <cgueret> zakim, I hate you

Christophe Gueret: zakim, I hate you

13:02:34 <Zakim> I don't understand 'I hate you', cgueret

Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'I hate you', cgueret

13:02:50 <PhilA_> +1

Phil Archer: +1

13:02:53 <cgueret> +1

Christophe Gueret: +1

13:03:04 <Zakim> + +1.509.554.aabb

Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.509.554.aabb

13:03:12 <Ig_Bittencourt> +1

Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: +1

13:03:46 <ericstephan> zakim, aabb is me

Eric Stephan: zakim, aabb is me

13:03:46 <Zakim> +ericstephan; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +ericstephan; got it

13:03:59 <deirdrelee> +1

Deirdre Lee: +1

13:04:00 <ericstephan> +1

Eric Stephan: +1

13:04:01 <adler1> +1

Steven Adler: +1

13:04:15 <cgueret> RESOLVED

Christophe Gueret: RESOLVED

13:04:19 <PhilA_> RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-05-30

RESOLVED: Accept last week's minutes http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-05-30

13:04:44 <cgueret> Topic: use case document

1. use case document

13:04:53 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: what's the status ?

Hadley Beeman: what's the status ? [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:04:57 <PhilA_> Here's a hint HadleyBeeman http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-05-30

Phil Archer: Here's a hint HadleyBeeman http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-05-30

13:05:05 <PhilA_> Sorry, I meant this http://www.w3.org/TR/dwbp-ucr/

Phil Archer: Sorry, I meant this http://www.w3.org/TR/dwbp-ucr/

13:05:16 <HadleyBeeman> Cheers, phila_!

Hadley Beeman: Cheers, phila_!

13:05:38 <cgueret> deirdrelee: got published yesterday

Deirdre Lee: got published yesterday [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:05:50 <cgueret> ... announced on lists, twitter etc

Christophe Gueret: ... announced on lists, twitter etc

13:06:00 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:06:04 <cgueret> ... live document that will have new versions

Christophe Gueret: ... live document that will have new versions

13:06:06 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

13:06:06 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it

13:06:12 <cgueret> ... use the issue tracker for this

Christophe Gueret: ... use the issue tracker for this

13:06:50 <cgueret> BernadetteLoscio: some issues still have to be resolved

Bernadette Farias Loscio: some issues still have to be resolved [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:06:50 <PhilA_> You can see the current raised issues at http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/raised - and each one is now associated with a 'product'

Phil Archer: You can see the current raised issues at http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/raised - and each one is now associated with a 'product'

13:07:13 <PhilA_> q+ to talk about tracker if you want me to HadleyBeeman

Phil Archer: q+ to talk about tracker if you want me to HadleyBeeman

13:07:27 <cgueret> ... please have a look at the issues

Christophe Gueret: ... please have a look at the issues

13:07:38 <HadleyBeeman> q+ to ask about the tracker and our weekly calls.

Hadley Beeman: q+ to ask about the tracker and our weekly calls.

13:07:39 <PhilA_> issue-4?

Phil Archer: ISSUE-4?

13:07:39 <trackbot> issue-4 -- Add a matrix table to summarize UCs vs challenges/requirements -- raised

Trackbot IRC Bot: ISSUE-4 -- Add a matrix table to summarize UCs vs challenges/requirements -- raised

13:07:39 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/4

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/issues/4

13:07:43 <HadleyBeeman> ack phil

Hadley Beeman: ack phil

13:07:43 <Zakim> PhilA_, you wanted to talk about tracker if you want me to HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA_, you wanted to talk about tracker if you want me to HadleyBeeman

13:07:50 <cgueret> PhilA_: the tracker is the same system for issues and actions

Phil Archer: the tracker is the same system for issues and actions [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:07:55 <cgueret> ... useful for the editors

Christophe Gueret: ... useful for the editors

13:08:20 <Zakim> +??P5

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P5

13:08:26 <cgueret> ... minors issues can be tackled directly by editors, other may require discussions

Christophe Gueret: ... minors issues can be tackled directly by editors, other may require discussions

13:08:34 <CarlosIglesias> zakim, ??P5 is really me

Carlos Iglesias: zakim, ??P5 is really me

13:08:34 <Zakim> +CarlosIglesias; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +CarlosIglesias; got it

13:08:40 <cgueret> ... for this do the same as for actions, also for the mails on the list

Christophe Gueret: ... for this do the same as for actions, also for the mails on the list

13:08:53 <cgueret> ... we have three products

Christophe Gueret: ... we have three products

13:09:09 <cgueret> ... for the two vocabs the tracker is following the vocab list

Christophe Gueret: ... for the two vocabs the tracker is following the vocab list

13:09:25 <cgueret> ... one product for the BP as a whole or one product per BP ?

Christophe Gueret: ... one product for the BP as a whole or one product per BP ?

13:09:44 <cgueret> ... risk of mail flooding !

Christophe Gueret: ... risk of mail flooding !

13:09:51 <Zakim> +??P28

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P28

13:09:56 <ivan> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

13:10:06 <PhilA_> zakim, who is noisy?

Phil Archer: zakim, who is noisy?

13:10:10 <ericstephan> data usage next generation

Eric Stephan: data usage next generation

13:10:15 <cgueret> :)

Christophe Gueret: :)

13:10:16 <Zakim> PhilA_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: BernadetteLoscio (65%), adler1 (25%), laufer (30%), HadleyBeeman (31%), Caroline (36%)

Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: BernadetteLoscio (65%), adler1 (25%), laufer (30%), HadleyBeeman (31%), Caroline (36%)

13:10:16 <Ig_Bittencourt> haha

Ig Bittencourt Santana Pinto: haha

13:10:29 <laufer> zakim, mute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me

13:10:29 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted

13:10:40 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, mute me

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute me

13:10:40 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio should now be muted

13:10:49 <PhilA_> ack HadleyBeeman

Phil Archer: ack HadleyBeeman

13:10:49 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman, you wanted to ask about the tracker and our weekly calls.

Zakim IRC Bot: HadleyBeeman, you wanted to ask about the tracker and our weekly calls.

13:11:02 <cgueret> deirdrelee: happy to take advises on what to do for the BP document

Deirdre Lee: happy to take advises on what to do for the BP document [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:11:10 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

13:11:24 <cgueret> ... lean towards having different deliverables in the tracker

Christophe Gueret: ... lean towards having different deliverables in the tracker

13:11:30 <cgueret> ... instead of versioning sections

Christophe Gueret: ... instead of versioning sections

13:12:14 <deirdrelee> q+

Deirdre Lee: q+

13:12:17 <cgueret> ... what do you want editors ?

Christophe Gueret: ... what do you want editors ?

13:12:45 <cgueret> deirdrelee: ok

Deirdre Lee: ok [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:12:46 <PhilA_> I would suggest that yes, a section on issues would be a good addition to the regular agenda

Phil Archer: I would suggest that yes, a section on issues would be a good addition to the regular agenda

13:12:49 <deirdrelee> ack deirdrelee

Deirdre Lee: ack deirdrelee

13:12:56 <PhilA_> ack ivan

Phil Archer: ack ivan

13:13:17 <cgueret> ivan: the tracker is intelligent enough to dig out specific issues in text

Ivan Herman: the tracker is intelligent enough to dig out specific issues in text [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:13:47 <cgueret> ... works in both text and subject of mails

Christophe Gueret: ... works in both text and subject of mails

13:14:27 <cgueret> ... don't forget that to publish a doc all the issues must be closed

Christophe Gueret: ... don't forget that to publish a doc all the issues must be closed

13:14:40 <cgueret> ... they all need to be closed or explained

Christophe Gueret: ... they all need to be closed or explained

13:14:53 <PhilA_> ack BernadetteLoscio

Phil Archer: ack BernadetteLoscio

13:14:53 <BernadetteLoscio> zakim, unmute me

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, unmute me

13:14:54 <Zakim> BernadetteLoscio was not muted, BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: BernadetteLoscio was not muted, BernadetteLoscio

13:14:59 <nathalia> Zakim, yaso has nathalia

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: Zakim, yaso has nathalia

13:14:59 <Zakim> sorry, nathalia, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, nathalia, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso'

13:15:10 <yaso> Zakim, Caroline_ is yaso

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, Caroline_ is yaso

13:15:10 <Zakim> sorry, yaso, I do not recognize a party named 'Caroline_'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, yaso, I do not recognize a party named 'Caroline_'

13:15:11 <cgueret> BernadetteLoscio: talk about the BP document ?

Bernadette Farias Loscio: talk about the BP document ? [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:15:21 <yaso> Zakim, Yaso has caroline

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, Yaso has caroline

13:15:21 <Zakim> sorry, yaso, I do not recognize a party named 'Yaso'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, yaso, I do not recognize a party named 'Yaso'

13:15:30 <yaso> Zakim, caroline has yaso

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, caroline has yaso

13:15:30 <Zakim> +yaso; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +yaso; got it

13:15:41 <yaso> Zakim, yaso has nathalia

Yaso Córdova: Zakim, yaso has nathalia

13:15:41 <Zakim> sorry, yaso, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso'

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, yaso, I do not recognize a party named 'yaso'

13:15:44 <cgueret> ... we have the ucr and several BP sections now

Christophe Gueret: ... we have the ucr and several BP sections now

13:15:45 <nathalia> Zakim, caroline has nathalia

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: Zakim, caroline has nathalia

13:15:45 <Zakim> +nathalia; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +nathalia; got it

13:16:04 <cgueret> ... we should group BPs to match requirements

Christophe Gueret: ... we should group BPs to match requirements

13:16:15 <cgueret> ... to organise all the information

Christophe Gueret: ... to organise all the information

13:16:26 <Caroline_> documents we are looking at as examples: Best Practices for Publishing Linked Data - http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/NOTE-ld-bp-20140109/  Web Application Privacy Best Practices - http://www.w3.org/TR/app-privacy-bp/  Best Practice Recipes for Publishing RDF Vocabularies - http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-swbp-vocab-pub-20080828/  Mobile Web Best Practices 1.0 - http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-mobile-bp-20080729/

Caroline Burle: documents we are looking at as examples: Best Practices for Publishing Linked Data - http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/NOTE-ld-bp-20140109/ Web Application Privacy Best Practices - http://www.w3.org/TR/app-privacy-bp/ Best Practice Recipes for Publishing RDF Vocabularies - http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/NOTE-swbp-vocab-pub-20080828/ Mobile Web Best Practices 1.0 - http://www.w3.org/TR/2008/REC-mobile-bp-20080729/

13:16:33 <cgueret> ... worry that requirements and BP sections will be hard to link

Christophe Gueret: ... worry that requirements and BP sections will be hard to link

13:16:55 <PhilA_> regrets+  Martin, Eric Kauz, Newton, Flavio, Antoine, Ghislain, Makx, Jeremy, Mark

Phil Archer: regrets+ Martin, Eric Kauz, Newton, Flavio, Antoine, Ghislain, Makx, Jeremy, Mark

13:17:05 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: +1 to connect the bits and be sure they don't run off in all directions

Hadley Beeman: +1 to connect the bits and be sure they don't run off in all directions [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:17:54 <Caroline_> + to BernadetteLoscio concern about the BP document

Caroline Burle: + to BernadetteLoscio concern about the BP document

13:18:16 <cgueret> PhilA_: time fixed for vocab call

Phil Archer: time fixed for vocab call [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:18:24 <cgueret> ... Thursdays

Christophe Gueret: ... Thursdays

13:19:05 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: BernadetteLoscio / deirdrelee will you join this week ?

Hadley Beeman: BernadetteLoscio / deirdrelee will you join this week ? [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:19:17 <cgueret> ... would be good to see how to match up vocab and ucr

Christophe Gueret: ... would be good to see how to match up vocab and ucr

13:19:17 <PhilA_> Topic: Vocabulary calls

2. Vocabulary calls

13:19:24 <PhilA_> See Group calendar https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Main_Page#Working_Group_Calendar

Phil Archer: See Group calendar https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Main_Page#Working_Group_Calendar

13:19:33 <PhilA_> Every other week

Phil Archer: Every other week

13:19:43 <cgueret> deirdrelee: may be able to make it

Deirdre Lee: may be able to make it [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:19:51 <PhilA_> Fixed to 12:00 Eastern (because Zakim is)

Phil Archer: Fixed to 12:00 Eastern (because Zakim is)

13:19:59 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

13:20:08 <PhilA_> ack BernadetteLoscio

Phil Archer: ack BernadetteLoscio

13:20:22 <cgueret> BernadetteLoscio: need common terminology

Bernadette Farias Loscio: need common terminology [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:20:36 <cgueret> ... will be useful for best practices

Christophe Gueret: ... will be useful for best practices

13:20:46 <cgueret> ... why not make a glossary ?

Christophe Gueret: ... why not make a glossary ?

13:20:59 <PhilA_> Yes, there is a Linked Data glossary at http://www.w3.org/TR/ld-glossary

Phil Archer: Yes, there is a Linked Data glossary at http://www.w3.org/TR/ld-glossary

13:21:17 <cgueret> ... define things once for all documents

Christophe Gueret: ... define things once for all documents

13:21:26 <ericstephan> Is the Linked Data glossary a living document?

Eric Stephan: Is the Linked Data glossary a living document?

13:21:45 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: within one can go at the end of the doc, for across the docs there should be a separate page

Hadley Beeman: within one can go at the end of the doc, for across the docs there should be a separate page [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:21:59 <cgueret> ... will be used internally and as a communication

Christophe Gueret: ... will be used internally and as a communication

13:22:04 <cgueret> ... 1) we need now

Christophe Gueret: ... 1) we need now

13:22:11 <cgueret> ... 2) we may or may not need later

Christophe Gueret: ... 2) we may or may not need later

13:22:25 <CarlosIglesias> in addition to what Bernadette is proposing it would be good trying to adopt a more neutral discourse globally, avoiding Open/Linked data bias where not necessary

Carlos Iglesias: in addition to what Bernadette is proposing it would be good trying to adopt a more neutral discourse globally, avoiding Open/Linked data bias where not necessary

13:22:36 <cgueret> ... "living document" ? we can work on updating it

Christophe Gueret: ... "living document" ? we can work on updating it

13:22:53 <CarlosIglesias> otherwise this could start to be quite confusing for people

Carlos Iglesias: otherwise this could start to be quite confusing for people

13:22:54 <cgueret> PhilA_: it's a note and not a rec so it can be changed

Phil Archer: it's a note and not a rec so it can be changed [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:22:57 <BernadetteLoscio> q+

Bernadette Farias Loscio: q+

13:23:01 <ericstephan> good point PhilA

Eric Stephan: good point PhilA

13:23:10 <cgueret> ... biggest problem here is that the topic is LD so it's narrower than our scope

Christophe Gueret: ... biggest problem here is that the topic is LD so it's narrower than our scope

13:23:25 <cgueret> ... but we could superseed it in a new version

Christophe Gueret: ... but we could superseed it in a new version

13:23:31 <ericstephan> +1 PhilA

Eric Stephan: +1 PhilA

13:23:35 <cgueret> ... repeat and extend the content in our new glossary

Christophe Gueret: ... repeat and extend the content in our new glossary

13:23:43 <cgueret> +1

Christophe Gueret: +1

13:24:00 <PhilA_> q+

Phil Archer: q+

13:24:08 <HadleyBeeman> ack bern

Hadley Beeman: ack bern

13:24:08 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: if we do that just be sure that's the thing we want to do

Hadley Beeman: if we do that just be sure that's the thing we want to do [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:24:38 <cgueret> BernadetteLoscio: there are many general concepts we can re-use

Bernadette Farias Loscio: there are many general concepts we can re-use [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:24:39 <PhilA_> ack me

Phil Archer: ack me

13:25:12 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio

13:25:24 <cgueret> PhilA_: support BernadetteLoscio and HadleyBeeman, we need to see if extending the doc is a good idea

Phil Archer: support BernadetteLoscio and HadleyBeeman, we need to see if extending the doc is a good idea [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:25:38 <cgueret> ... discussed extending/using that glossary for another work too

Christophe Gueret: ... discussed extending/using that glossary for another work too

13:25:49 <cgueret> ... so maybe interesting in a wider context to extend it

Christophe Gueret: ... so maybe interesting in a wider context to extend it

13:26:12 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: we need to list what we need to define

Hadley Beeman: we need to list what we need to define [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:26:22 <cgueret> ... can be derived from discussion

Christophe Gueret: ... can be derived from discussion

13:26:48 <cgueret> Topic: actions

3. actions

13:26:49 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/open

Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/open

13:27:01 <cgueret> action-20?

Christophe Gueret: ACTION-20?

13:27:01 <trackbot> action-20 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Document the situations/scenarios for the data usage vocab in the ucr -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-20 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Document the situations/scenarios for the data usage vocab in the ucr -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN

13:27:01 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/20

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/20

13:28:02 <cgueret> ericstephan: initial discussions done during the f2f, home work now is to look at ucr to find data usage examples

Eric Stephan: initial discussions done during the f2f, home work now is to look at ucr to find data usage examples [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:28:14 <cgueret> ... also looking at csv on the web use-case document

Christophe Gueret: ... also looking at csv on the web use-case document

13:28:30 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: set due date next Friday

Hadley Beeman: set due date next Friday [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:28:35 <cgueret> ericstephan: +1

Eric Stephan: +1 [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:29:04 <PhilA_> action-20?

Phil Archer: ACTION-20?

13:29:04 <trackbot> action-20 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Document the situations/scenarios for the data usage vocab in the ucr -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-20 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Document the situations/scenarios for the data usage vocab in the ucr -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN

13:29:04 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/20

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/20

13:29:28 <ericstephan> A new link has been made off of the F2F1 Data usage Notes

Eric Stephan: A new link has been made off of the F2F1 Data usage Notes

13:29:30 <PhilA_> action-22?

Phil Archer: ACTION-22?

13:29:30 <trackbot> action-22 -- Deirdre Lee to Work with bernadette to ensure that each requirement links back to a use case -- due 2014-06-13 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-22 -- Deirdre Lee to Work with bernadette to ensure that each requirement links back to a use case -- due 2014-06-13 -- OPEN

13:29:30 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/22

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/22

13:29:38 <ericstephan>  https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_usage_notes

Eric Stephan: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_usage_notes

13:29:47 <cgueret> action-22?

Christophe Gueret: ACTION-22?

13:29:47 <trackbot> action-22 -- Deirdre Lee to Work with bernadette to ensure that each requirement links back to a use case -- due 2014-06-13 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-22 -- Deirdre Lee to Work with bernadette to ensure that each requirement links back to a use case -- due 2014-06-13 -- OPEN

13:29:47 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/22

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/22

13:29:48 <ericstephan>  https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_Usage_Vocabulary_Meetings

Eric Stephan: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_Usage_Vocabulary_Meetings

13:30:03 <cgueret> deirdrelee: can be closed

Deirdre Lee: can be closed [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:30:15 <cgueret> RESOLVED: action-22

RESOLVED: ACTION-22

13:30:24 <PhilA_> close action-22

Phil Archer: close ACTION-22

13:30:24 <trackbot> Closed action-22.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-22.

13:30:28 <cgueret> action-23 ?

Christophe Gueret: ACTION-23 ?

13:30:28 <trackbot> action-23 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Look up requirements documents for vocabularies such as prov-o, data cube, skos -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-23 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Look up requirements documents for vocabularies such as prov-o, data cube, skos -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN

13:30:28 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/23

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/23

13:30:57 <cgueret> action-28?

Christophe Gueret: ACTION-28?

13:30:57 <trackbot> action-28 -- Eric Stephan to Write some other examples that are no open data -- due 2014-05-02 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-28 -- Eric Stephan to Write some other examples that are no open data -- due 2014-05-02 -- OPEN

13:30:57 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/28

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/28

13:31:09 <nathalia> Zakim, caroline has nathalia

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: Zakim, caroline has nathalia

13:31:09 <Zakim> nathalia was already listed in Caroline, nathalia

Zakim IRC Bot: nathalia was already listed in Caroline, nathalia

13:31:16 <cgueret> ericstephan: on the backburner but should be complete by next week

Eric Stephan: on the backburner but should be complete by next week [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:31:22 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: still relevant?

Hadley Beeman: still relevant? [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:31:41 <cgueret> ericstephan: willing to do it anyway, could be useful for later

Eric Stephan: willing to do it anyway, could be useful for later [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:31:43 <PhilA_> q+

Phil Archer: q+

13:31:47 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is noisy?

Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is noisy?

13:31:57 <Zakim> HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: PhilA_ (4%), HadleyBeeman (39%), ivan (20%), ericstephan (55%)

Zakim IRC Bot: HadleyBeeman, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: PhilA_ (4%), HadleyBeeman (39%), ivan (20%), ericstephan (55%)

13:32:12 <PhilA_> q-

Phil Archer: q-

13:32:31 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: initial plan was to fit the content into the use-case doc but could go somewhere else

Hadley Beeman: initial plan was to fit the content into the use-case doc but could go somewhere else [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:32:40 <PhilA_> zakim, mute ivan

Phil Archer: zakim, mute ivan

13:32:40 <Zakim> ivan should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: ivan should now be muted

13:32:53 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: shift due-date on that one too

Hadley Beeman: shift due-date on that one too [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:33:12 <cgueret> PhilA_: closed data is an important aspect

Phil Archer: closed data is an important aspect [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:33:35 <cgueret> ... suggest ericstephan to scan through the use-case document

Christophe Gueret: ... suggest ericstephan to scan through the use-case document

13:33:56 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to phila_'s suggestion

Hadley Beeman: +1 to phila_'s suggestion

13:34:04 <cgueret> ... if covered ok, if not covered then important to do something

Christophe Gueret: ... if covered ok, if not covered then important to do something

13:34:10 <cgueret> +1 to PhilA_ too

Christophe Gueret: +1 to PhilA_ too

13:34:13 <deirdrelee> q+

Deirdre Lee: q+

13:34:57 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: open a new action to keep track on this

Hadley Beeman: open a new action to keep track on this [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:34:57 <PhilA_> close action-28

Phil Archer: close ACTION-28

13:34:57 <trackbot> Closed action-28.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-28.

13:35:38 <PhilA_> action: ericstephan to review UCR with closed data in mind

ACTION: ericstephan to review UCR with closed data in mind

13:35:38 <trackbot> Created ACTION-45 - Review ucr with closed data in mind [on Eric Stephan - due 2014-06-13].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-45 - Review ucr with closed data in mind [on Eric Stephan - due 2014-06-13].

13:35:54 <cgueret> action-30?

Christophe Gueret: ACTION-30?

13:35:54 <trackbot> action-30 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Come back with schedule to the wg -- due 2014-05-09 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-30 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Come back with schedule to the wg -- due 2014-05-09 -- OPEN

13:35:54 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/30

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/30

13:36:16 <cgueret> action-31?

Christophe Gueret: ACTION-31?

13:36:16 <trackbot> action-31 -- Carlos Iglesias to Do mapping between the best practices and challenges and the requirements and add concrete examples -- due 2014-05-09 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-31 -- Carlos Iglesias to Do mapping between the best practices and challenges and the requirements and add concrete examples -- due 2014-05-09 -- OPEN

13:36:16 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/31

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/31

13:36:44 <cgueret> CarlosIglesias: still working on it

Carlos Iglesias: still working on it [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:37:01 <cgueret> ... the map is complete but not respect to the challenges so far

Christophe Gueret: ... the map is complete but not respect to the challenges so far

13:37:02 <Zakim> +??P1

Zakim IRC Bot: +??P1

13:37:13 <cgueret> ... remain to add statistics and map challenges

Christophe Gueret: ... remain to add statistics and map challenges

13:37:20 <MTCarrasco> zakim, ??P1 is me

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, ??P1 is me

13:37:20 <Zakim> +MTCarrasco; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +MTCarrasco; got it

13:37:26 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: still fit in UCR ?

Hadley Beeman: still fit in UCR ? [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:37:37 <BernadetteLoscio> Im sorry... I lost connections

Bernadette Farias Loscio: Im sorry... I lost connections

13:37:39 <cgueret> CarlosIglesias: the connection is on the document

Carlos Iglesias: the connection is on the document [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:38:08 <cgueret> ... but miss a bit seeing how everything will be together at the end

Christophe Gueret: ... but miss a bit seeing how everything will be together at the end

13:38:17 <BernadetteLoscio> No.. Internet connection :)

Bernadette Farias Loscio: No.. Internet connection :)

13:39:24 <cgueret> ... we just need to agree on a final format for the BPs

Christophe Gueret: ... we just need to agree on a final format for the BPs

13:39:43 <cgueret> ... otherwise we'll build many collection documents

Christophe Gueret: ... otherwise we'll build many collection documents

13:40:08 <cgueret> ... would like this agreement being made before spending further time on it

Christophe Gueret: ... would like this agreement being made before spending further time on it

13:40:43 <BernadetteLoscio> Yes... I agre

Bernadette Farias Loscio: Yes... I agre

13:40:53 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: close the action and create an issue to check is best practices and use-cases are correctly related

Hadley Beeman: close the action and create an issue to check is best practices and use-cases are correctly related [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:41:12 <PhilA_> close action-31

Phil Archer: close ACTION-31

13:41:12 <trackbot> Closed action-31.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-31.

13:41:35 <cgueret> action-32 ?

Christophe Gueret: ACTION-32 ?

13:41:35 <trackbot> action-32 -- Hadley Beeman to Write email on discoverable data vs data catalogues -- due 2014-05-09 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-32 -- Hadley Beeman to Write email on discoverable data vs data catalogues -- due 2014-05-09 -- OPEN

13:41:35 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/32

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/32

13:41:36 <HadleyBeeman> action-32?

Hadley Beeman: ACTION-32?

13:41:36 <trackbot> action-32 -- Hadley Beeman to Write email on discoverable data vs data catalogues -- due 2014-05-09 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-32 -- Hadley Beeman to Write email on discoverable data vs data catalogues -- due 2014-05-09 -- OPEN

13:41:36 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/32

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/32

13:41:48 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: did not do it yet

Hadley Beeman: did not do it yet [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:41:54 <cgueret> ... change due date

Christophe Gueret: ... change due date

13:41:57 <cgueret> action-33?

Christophe Gueret: ACTION-33?

13:41:57 <trackbot> action-33 -- Phil Archer to Contact tomas carassoco re working on uri bps -- due 2014-05-16 -- CLOSED

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-33 -- Phil Archer to Contact tomas carassoco re working on uri bps -- due 2014-05-16 -- CLOSED

13:41:57 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/33

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/33

13:42:17 <cgueret> PhilA_: has happened, action is closed now

Phil Archer: has happened, action is closed now [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:42:32 <HadleyBeeman> action-20?

Hadley Beeman: ACTION-20?

13:42:32 <trackbot> action-20 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Document the situations/scenarios for the data usage vocab in the ucr -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-20 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Document the situations/scenarios for the data usage vocab in the ucr -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN

13:42:32 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/20

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/20

13:42:32 <cgueret> action-20 ?

Christophe Gueret: ACTION-20 ?

13:42:33 <trackbot> action-20 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Document the situations/scenarios for the data usage vocab in the ucr -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-20 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Document the situations/scenarios for the data usage vocab in the ucr -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN

13:42:33 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/20

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/20

13:42:48 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: BernadetteLoscio done ?

Hadley Beeman: BernadetteLoscio done ? [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:43:07 <BernadetteLoscio> Im sorry... I just can chat now

Bernadette Farias Loscio: Im sorry... I just can chat now

13:43:19 <cgueret> ericstephan: speaking for BernadetteLoscio, yep we'll adress this shortly

Eric Stephan: speaking for BernadetteLoscio, yep we'll adress this shortly [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:43:26 <cgueret> action-23?

Christophe Gueret: ACTION-23?

13:43:26 <trackbot> action-23 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Look up requirements documents for vocabularies such as prov-o, data cube, skos -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-23 -- Bernadette Farias Loscio to Look up requirements documents for vocabularies such as prov-o, data cube, skos -- due 2014-04-08 -- OPEN

13:43:26 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/23

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/23

13:43:36 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: suggest to close and turn into an issue

Hadley Beeman: suggest to close and turn into an issue [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:43:53 <BernadetteLoscio> Yes

Bernadette Farias Loscio: Yes

13:43:55 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: BernadetteLoscio +1 to that ?

Hadley Beeman: BernadetteLoscio +1 to that ? [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:43:56 <Zakim> -??P28

Zakim IRC Bot: -??P28

13:44:10 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: what to do with action-20 BernadetteLoscio ?

Hadley Beeman: what to do with ACTION-20 BernadetteLoscio ? [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:44:20 <BernadetteLoscio> +1

Bernadette Farias Loscio: +1

13:44:43 <cgueret> action-35?

Christophe Gueret: ACTION-35?

13:44:43 <trackbot> action-35 -- Hadley Beeman to Contact bernadette and eric stephan to coordinate about the data usage effort -- due 2014-05-16 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-35 -- Hadley Beeman to Contact bernadette and eric stephan to coordinate about the data usage effort -- due 2014-05-16 -- OPEN

13:44:43 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/35

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/35

13:44:57 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: taking place through the call...

Hadley Beeman: taking place through the call... [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:45:10 <PhilA_> close action-35

Phil Archer: close ACTION-35

13:45:11 <trackbot> Closed action-35.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-35.

13:45:15 <cgueret> ericstephan: things are going ok at the moment

Eric Stephan: things are going ok at the moment [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:45:22 <BernadetteLoscio_> yes...

Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes...

13:45:29 <ericstephan>  https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_Usage_Vocabulary_Meetings

Eric Stephan: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_Usage_Vocabulary_Meetings

13:45:51 <cgueret> ericstephan: put together several content in the wiki

Eric Stephan: put together several content in the wiki [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:46:29 <PhilA_> q+ to talk about using IRC

Phil Archer: q+ to talk about using IRC

13:46:30 <cgueret> ... we agreed to take notes on GoogleDoc during the meeting and then transfer everything on the wiki at the end

Christophe Gueret: ... we agreed to take notes on GoogleDoc during the meeting and then transfer everything on the wiki at the end

13:46:43 <HadleyBeeman> ack deird

Hadley Beeman: ack deird

13:46:44 <PhilA_> ack deirdrelee

Phil Archer: ack deirdrelee

13:47:10 <cgueret> deirdrelee: there are UCR that are specificaly about closed data and other that can apply to both

Deirdre Lee: there are UCR that are specificaly about closed data and other that can apply to both [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:47:16 <HadleyBeeman> ack phil

Hadley Beeman: ack phil

13:47:17 <Zakim> PhilA_, you wanted to talk about using IRC

Zakim IRC Bot: PhilA_, you wanted to talk about using IRC

13:47:20 <ericstephan> Sounds great Deirdre

Eric Stephan: Sounds great Deirdre

13:47:32 <cgueret> PhilA_: ericstephan you are free to use the IRC channel whenever you want

Phil Archer: ericstephan you are free to use the IRC channel whenever you want [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:47:40 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]

Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller]

13:47:43 <BernadetteLoscio_> zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, ipcaller is BernadetteLoscio

13:47:43 <Zakim> +BernadetteLoscio; got it

Zakim IRC Bot: +BernadetteLoscio; got it

13:47:45 <cgueret> ... you don't have to have a conference call associated to use it

Christophe Gueret: ... you don't have to have a conference call associated to use it

13:47:59 <adler1> me too

Steven Adler: me too

13:48:04 <BernadetteLoscio_> yes!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes!

13:48:04 <Zakim> -deirdrelee

Zakim IRC Bot: -deirdrelee

13:48:06 <cgueret> ericstephan: great, will use it

Eric Stephan: great, will use it [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:48:11 <Zakim> -adler1

Zakim IRC Bot: -adler1

13:48:15 <cgueret> action-37?

Christophe Gueret: ACTION-37?

13:48:15 <trackbot> action-37 -- Yaso Córdova to Start the process of creating a technical factors document with the other contributors -- due 2014-05-16 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-37 -- Yaso Córdova to Start the process of creating a technical factors document with the other contributors -- due 2014-05-16 -- OPEN

13:48:15 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/37

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/37

13:48:29 <cgueret> yaso: started

Yaso Córdova: started [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:48:55 <cgueret> ... we need more people to contribute

Christophe Gueret: ... we need more people to contribute

13:49:32 <cgueret> ... need to get more information from, e.g., internet of things

Christophe Gueret: ... need to get more information from, e.g., internet of things

13:49:43 <cgueret> ... also data representation and privacy

Christophe Gueret: ... also data representation and privacy

13:49:47 <BernadetteLoscio_> zakim, mute me

Bernadette Farias Loscio: zakim, mute me

13:49:47 <Zakim> sorry, BernadetteLoscio_, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you

Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, BernadetteLoscio_, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you

13:49:48 <cgueret> ... so need more use-cases

Christophe Gueret: ... so need more use-cases

13:50:32 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: any volunteer ?

Hadley Beeman: any volunteer ? [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:51:02 <cgueret> yaso: I'll pick it up

Yaso Córdova: I'll pick it up [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:52:06 <PhilA_> action yaso to generate/collate further use cases concerning IoT, transport, privacy

Phil Archer: action yaso to generate/collate further use cases concerning IoT, transport, privacy

13:52:06 <trackbot> Created ACTION-46 - Generate/collate further use cases concerning iot, transport, privacy [on Yaso Córdova - due 2014-06-13].

Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-46 - Generate/collate further use cases concerning iot, transport, privacy [on Yaso Córdova - due 2014-06-13].

13:52:24 <PhilA_> close action-37

Phil Archer: close ACTION-37

13:52:24 <trackbot> Closed action-37.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-37.

13:52:33 <HadleyBeeman> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Technical_factors_affecting_potential_use_of_open_data_for_innovation,_efficiency_and_commercial_exploitation

Hadley Beeman: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Technical_factors_affecting_potential_use_of_open_data_for_innovation,_efficiency_and_commercial_exploitation

13:52:53 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: looking for use-cases on these topics

Hadley Beeman: looking for use-cases on these topics [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:53:17 <cgueret> action-39?

Christophe Gueret: ACTION-39?

13:53:17 <trackbot> action-39 -- Carlos Laufer to Summarize the ideas (create categories) from the mailing list on the wiki page for guidance on metadata -- due 2014-05-23 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-39 -- Carlos Laufer to Summarize the ideas (create categories) from the mailing list on the wiki page for guidance on metadata -- due 2014-05-23 -- OPEN

13:53:17 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/39

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/39

13:53:20 <laufer> zakim, unmute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, unmute me

13:53:20 <Zakim> laufer should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should no longer be muted

13:53:31 <cgueret> laufer: can be closed

Carlos Laufer: can be closed [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:53:46 <cgueret> ... we have a list of categories in the guidance

Christophe Gueret: ... we have a list of categories in the guidance

13:54:02 <cgueret> ... asked for more links and content to populate the document

Christophe Gueret: ... asked for more links and content to populate the document

13:54:09 <cgueret> ... antoine sent some on licenses

Christophe Gueret: ... antoine sent some on licenses

13:54:36 <cgueret> ... we have a lot of information to put in the document

Christophe Gueret: ... we have a lot of information to put in the document

13:54:55 <cgueret> ... close this action and work on extending the content

Christophe Gueret: ... close this action and work on extending the content

13:55:10 <PhilA_> close action-39

Phil Archer: close ACTION-39

13:55:10 <trackbot> Closed action-39.

Trackbot IRC Bot: Closed ACTION-39.

13:55:25 <cgueret> ... this guidance is a kind of BP

Christophe Gueret: ... this guidance is a kind of BP

13:56:06 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: best to focus on finishing what you want to do and then think about where to fit in within other BP sections

Hadley Beeman: best to focus on finishing what you want to do and then think about where to fit in within other BP sections [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:56:16 <cgueret> laufer: ok

Carlos Laufer: ok [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:56:34 <cgueret> action-40?

Christophe Gueret: ACTION-40?

13:56:34 <trackbot> action-40 -- Flavio Yanai to Start the versioning document/research with newton -- due 2014-05-23 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-40 -- Flavio Yanai to Start the versioning document/research with newton -- due 2014-05-23 -- OPEN

13:56:34 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/40

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/40

13:56:51 <cgueret> action-41?

Christophe Gueret: ACTION-41?

13:56:51 <trackbot> action-41 -- Mark Harrison to Add skos recommendations into controlled vocabularies -- due 2014-05-23 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-41 -- Mark Harrison to Add skos recommendations into controlled vocabularies -- due 2014-05-23 -- OPEN

13:56:51 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/41

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/41

13:56:58 <cgueret> action-42?

Christophe Gueret: ACTION-42?

13:56:58 <trackbot> action-42 -- Newton Calegari to Improve bp - uri document with new references -- due 2014-05-30 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-42 -- Newton Calegari to Improve bp - uri document with new references -- due 2014-05-30 -- OPEN

13:56:58 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/42

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/42

13:57:01 <laufer> zakim, mute me

Carlos Laufer: zakim, mute me

13:57:01 <Zakim> laufer should now be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: laufer should now be muted

13:57:07 <cgueret> action-45?

Christophe Gueret: ACTION-45?

13:57:07 <trackbot> action-45 -- Eric Stephan to Review ucr with closed data in mind -- due 2014-06-13 -- OPEN

Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-45 -- Eric Stephan to Review ucr with closed data in mind -- due 2014-06-13 -- OPEN

13:57:07 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/45

Trackbot IRC Bot: http://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/track/actions/45

13:57:39 <MTCarrasco> www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Best_Practice_for_Web_Data_URI

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Best_Practice_for_Web_Data_URI

13:57:54 <cgueret> PhilA_: has to go

Phil Archer: has to go [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:57:57 <Zakim> -PhilA_

Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA_

13:58:24 <Zakim> -BernadetteLoscio

Zakim IRC Bot: -BernadetteLoscio

13:58:38 <ivan> q+

Ivan Herman: q+

13:59:15 <ivan> zakim, unmute me

Ivan Herman: zakim, unmute me

13:59:16 <Zakim> ivan should no longer be muted

Zakim IRC Bot: ivan should no longer be muted

13:59:38 <cgueret> MTCarrasco: looking around for a template to transform the wiki into an editor draft

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: looking around for a template to transform the wiki into an editor draft [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

13:59:57 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: best to leave everything in the wiki until we decide if we want to wrap everything up into one doc

Hadley Beeman: best to leave everything in the wiki until we decide if we want to wrap everything up into one doc [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

14:00:51 <cgueret> HadleyBeeman: wait until we have more content from all BP to vote

Hadley Beeman: wait until we have more content from all BP to vote [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

14:00:59 <BernadetteLoscio_> yes...

Bernadette Farias Loscio: yes...

14:01:26 <cgueret> MTCarrasco: will be useful to have a template to have some discipline for writting

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: will be useful to have a template to have some discipline for writting [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

14:02:22 <cgueret> MTCarrasco: we need to think about connecting the work on URI and preservation

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: we need to think about connecting the work on URI and preservation [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

14:03:08 <cgueret> ivan: we had a long discussions on URIs

Ivan Herman: we had a long discussions on URIs [ Scribe Assist by Christophe Gueret ]

14:03:26 <cgueret> ... HTTP URIs are the best or not, etc

Christophe Gueret: ... HTTP URIs are the best or not, etc

14:03:44 <MTCarrasco> Ivan +1

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Ivan +1

14:03:49 <cgueret> ... lot of people in the data publishing world pick, say, DOI instead of HTTP

Christophe Gueret: ... lot of people in the data publishing world pick, say, DOI instead of HTTP

14:04:10 <cgueret> ... currently the document speak only about HTTP URIs

Christophe Gueret: ... currently the document speak only about HTTP URIs

14:04:15 <laufer> +1 not to take side

Carlos Laufer: +1 not to take side

14:04:20 <ivan> http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12145-011-0083-6

Ivan Herman: http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12145-011-0083-6

14:04:22 <cgueret> ... gives the impression we do pick a side

Christophe Gueret: ... gives the impression we do pick a side

14:04:41 <HadleyBeeman> q+ to move this to the mailing list — I'm afraid we're out of time

Hadley Beeman: q+ to move this to the mailing list — I'm afraid we're out of time

14:04:48 <ericstephan> It is a very good paper

Eric Stephan: It is a very good paper

14:04:55 <ericstephan> I recommend reading it

Eric Stephan: I recommend reading it

14:05:01 <cgueret> ... this paper gives a nice overview over schemes

Christophe Gueret: ... this paper gives a nice overview over schemes

14:05:07 <MTCarrasco> Two schemes: http + file

Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Two schemes: http + file

14:05:13 <Zakim> -MTCarrasco

Zakim IRC Bot: -MTCarrasco

14:05:14 <Zakim> -ericstephan

Zakim IRC Bot: -ericstephan

14:05:14 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman

Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman

14:05:14 <cgueret> bye!

Christophe Gueret: bye!

14:05:16 <Zakim> -ivan

Zakim IRC Bot: -ivan

14:05:19 <Zakim> -Ig_Bittencourt

Zakim IRC Bot: -Ig_Bittencourt

14:05:19 <nathalia> bye

Nathalia Sautchuk Patrício: bye

14:05:23 <Caroline_>  bye bye!

Caroline Burle: bye bye!

14:05:26 <Zakim> -Caroline

Zakim IRC Bot: -Caroline

14:05:32 <yaso> Bye!

Yaso Córdova: Bye!

14:05:38 <laufer> bye

Carlos Laufer: bye

14:05:41 <Zakim> -cgueret

Zakim IRC Bot: -cgueret

14:05:43 <Zakim> -CarlosIglesias

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14:05:52 <Zakim> -laufer

Zakim IRC Bot: -laufer

14:05:52 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended

Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()9:00AM has ended

14:05:52 <Zakim> Attendees were adler1, HadleyBeeman, laufer, PhilA_, ivan, cgueret, Ig_Bittencourt, +3539149aaaa, deirdrelee, +1.509.554.aabb, ericstephan, BernadetteLoscio, CarlosIglesias, yaso,

Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were adler1, HadleyBeeman, laufer, PhilA_, ivan, cgueret, Ig_Bittencourt, +3539149aaaa, deirdrelee, +1.509.554.aabb, ericstephan, BernadetteLoscio, CarlosIglesias, yaso,

14:05:52 <Zakim> ... nathalia, MTCarrasco

Zakim IRC Bot: ... nathalia, MTCarrasco

14:06:05 <BernadetteLoscio_> bye!

Bernadette Farias Loscio: bye!

14:14:45 <PhilA_> rrsagent, make logs public

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Phil Archer: rrsagent, make logs public

15:35:01 <PhilA_> zakim, bye

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Phil Archer: zakim, bye

15:35:08 <PhilA_> rrsagent, bye

Phil Archer: rrsagent, bye

15:35:08 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/06/06-dwbp-actions.rdf :

RRSAgent IRC Bot: I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2014/06/06-dwbp-actions.rdf :

15:35:08 <RRSAgent> ACTION: ericstephan to review UCR with closed data in mind [1]

ACTION: ericstephan to review UCR with closed data in mind [1]

15:35:08 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/06/06-dwbp-irc#T13-35-38

RRSAgent IRC Bot: recorded in http://www.w3.org/2014/06/06-dwbp-irc#T13-35-38



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