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12:55:43 <PhilA> PhilA has changed the topic to: DWBP Weekly telecon 7 Feb 2014
Phil Archer: PhilA has changed the topic to: DWBP Weekly telecon 7 Feb 2014 ←
12:56:11 <PhilA> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2014.02.07
12:56:11 <PhilA> Guest: Augusto Herrmann
12:56:11 <PhilA> Guest: Christian Miranda
12:56:21 <PhilA> Chair: Steve
12:56:47 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()8:00AM has now started
Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()8:00AM has now started ←
12:56:48 <Zakim> +Vinh
Zakim IRC Bot: +Vinh ←
12:57:07 <PhilA> Regrets+ Bernadette, JohnG, Martin, Erik
Phil Archer: Regrets+ Bernadette, JohnG, Martin, Erik ←
12:57:46 <Zakim> +??P1
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P1 ←
12:58:10 <Seiji_Isotani> zakim, ??P1 is me
Seiji Isotani: zakim, ??P1 is me ←
12:58:10 <Zakim> +Seiji_Isotani; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Seiji_Isotani; got it ←
12:58:22 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
12:58:27 <PhilA> zakim, ipcaller is me
Phil Archer: zakim, ipcaller is me ←
12:58:27 <Zakim> +PhilA; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +PhilA; got it ←
12:58:10 <Zakim> Gust: Augusto Herrmann
Gustavo Suárez Volpe: Augusto Herrmann [ Scribe Assist by Zakim IRC Bot ] ←
12:58:59 <Zakim> +??P3
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P3 ←
12:59:18 <MTcarrasco> zakim, ??P3 is me
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, ??P3 is me ←
12:59:18 <Zakim> +MTcarrasco; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +MTcarrasco; got it ←
12:59:23 <Seiji_Isotani> * you´re welcome PhilA, still trying to get used to irc
Seiji Isotani: * you´re welcome PhilA, still trying to get used to irc ←
12:59:45 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-voip ←
12:59:45 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ivan; the call is being made ←
12:59:46 <Zakim> +Steve
Zakim IRC Bot: +Steve ←
12:59:46 <Zakim> +Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ivan ←
12:59:55 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman ←
13:00:06 <ivan> zakim, drop ivan
Ivan Herman: zakim, drop ivan ←
13:00:06 <Zakim> Ivan is being disconnected
Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan is being disconnected ←
13:00:07 <Zakim> -Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan ←
13:00:38 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-voip ←
13:00:38 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ivan; the call is being made ←
13:00:40 <Zakim> +Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ivan ←
13:00:52 <ivan> zakim, mute me
Ivan Herman: zakim, mute me ←
13:00:52 <Zakim> + +33.4.93.00.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: + +33.4.93.00.aaaa ←
13:00:52 <Zakim> Ivan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan should now be muted ←
13:01:08 <Zakim> +ericstephan
Zakim IRC Bot: +ericstephan ←
13:01:09 <MTcarrasco> zakim, mute me
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, mute me ←
13:01:09 <Zakim> MTcarrasco should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MTcarrasco should now be muted ←
13:01:51 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?
Phil Archer: zakim, who is here? ←
13:01:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see Vinh, Seiji_Isotani, PhilA, MTcarrasco (muted), Steve, Ivan (muted), HadleyBeeman, +33.4.93.00.aaaa, ericstephan
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Vinh, Seiji_Isotani, PhilA, MTcarrasco (muted), Steve, Ivan (muted), HadleyBeeman, +33.4.93.00.aaaa, ericstephan ←
13:01:53 <Zakim> On IRC I see MakxDekkers, CarlosIglesias, MTcarrasco, RRSAgent, Vinh, PhilA, Zakim, HadleyBeeman, Seiji_Isotani, adler1, ErikMannens, ivan, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see MakxDekkers, CarlosIglesias, MTcarrasco, RRSAgent, Vinh, PhilA, Zakim, HadleyBeeman, Seiji_Isotani, adler1, ErikMannens, ivan, sandro, trackbot ←
13:02:01 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is on the call?
Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:02:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see Vinh, Seiji_Isotani, PhilA, MTcarrasco (muted), Steve, Ivan (muted), HadleyBeeman, +33.4.93.00.aaaa, ericstephan
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Vinh, Seiji_Isotani, PhilA, MTcarrasco (muted), Steve, Ivan (muted), HadleyBeeman, +33.4.93.00.aaaa, ericstephan ←
13:02:19 <Zakim> + +33.4.93.00.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: + +33.4.93.00.aabb ←
13:02:20 <Zakim> -Vinh
Zakim IRC Bot: -Vinh ←
13:02:57 <Zakim> +Makx_Dekkers
Zakim IRC Bot: +Makx_Dekkers ←
13:03:05 <Zakim> -Makx_Dekkers
Zakim IRC Bot: -Makx_Dekkers ←
13:03:07 <Zakim> +??P8
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P8 ←
13:03:08 <HadleyBeeman> rtroncy, are you dialing in?
Hadley Beeman: rtroncy, are you dialing in? ←
13:03:16 <Zakim> +Caroline
Zakim IRC Bot: +Caroline ←
13:03:17 <ericstephan> I am joining from a new number...
Eric Stephan: I am joining from a new number... ←
13:03:30 <CarlosIglesias> zakim, ??P8 is me
Carlos Iglesias: zakim, ??P8 is me ←
13:03:30 <Zakim> +CarlosIglesias; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +CarlosIglesias; got it ←
13:03:43 <PhilA> zakim, caroline is Yaso
Phil Archer: zakim, caroline is Yaso ←
13:03:43 <Zakim> +Yaso; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Yaso; got it ←
13:03:48 <Zakim> +Makx_Dekkers
Zakim IRC Bot: +Makx_Dekkers ←
13:04:48 <Zakim> -Makx_Dekkers
Zakim IRC Bot: -Makx_Dekkers ←
13:04:54 <PhilA> zakim, mute aabb
Phil Archer: zakim, mute aabb ←
13:04:54 <Zakim> +33.4.93.00.aabb should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: +33.4.93.00.aabb should now be muted ←
13:05:05 <PhilA> zakim, mute aaaa
Phil Archer: zakim, mute aaaa ←
13:05:05 <Zakim> +33.4.93.00.aaaa should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: +33.4.93.00.aaaa should now be muted ←
13:05:12 <PhilA> zakim, unmute aabb
Phil Archer: zakim, unmute aabb ←
13:05:12 <Zakim> +33.4.93.00.aabb should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: +33.4.93.00.aabb should no longer be muted ←
13:05:22 <Zakim> +Makx_Dekkers
Zakim IRC Bot: +Makx_Dekkers ←
13:05:34 <Zakim> - +33.4.93.00.aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: - +33.4.93.00.aaaa ←
13:05:41 <Zakim> -Makx_Dekkers
Zakim IRC Bot: -Makx_Dekkers ←
13:06:00 <Zakim> +Vinh
Zakim IRC Bot: +Vinh ←
13:06:02 <adler1> zakim, mute +33*
Steven Adler: zakim, mute +33* ←
13:06:02 <Zakim> sorry, adler1, I do not know which phone connection belongs to +33*
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, adler1, I do not know which phone connection belongs to +33* ←
13:06:13 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, mute aaaa
Hadley Beeman: zakim, mute aaaa ←
13:06:13 <Zakim> sorry, HadleyBeeman, I do not know which phone connection belongs to aaaa
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, HadleyBeeman, I do not know which phone connection belongs to aaaa ←
13:06:14 <adler1> zakim, mute +33*
Steven Adler: zakim, mute +33* ←
13:06:15 <Zakim> sorry, adler1, I do not know which phone connection belongs to +33*
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, adler1, I do not know which phone connection belongs to +33* ←
13:06:20 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, who is on the call?
Hadley Beeman: zakim, who is on the call? ←
13:06:21 <Zakim> +Makx_Dekkers
Zakim IRC Bot: +Makx_Dekkers ←
13:06:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see Seiji_Isotani, PhilA, MTcarrasco (muted), Steve, Ivan (muted), HadleyBeeman, ericstephan, +33.4.93.00.aabb, CarlosIglesias, Yaso, Vinh, Makx_Dekkers
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Seiji_Isotani, PhilA, MTcarrasco (muted), Steve, Ivan (muted), HadleyBeeman, ericstephan, +33.4.93.00.aabb, CarlosIglesias, Yaso, Vinh, Makx_Dekkers ←
13:06:25 <PhilA> zakim, mute aabb
Phil Archer: zakim, mute aabb ←
13:06:25 <Zakim> +33.4.93.00.aabb should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: +33.4.93.00.aabb should now be muted ←
13:06:25 <HadleyBeeman> zkaim, mute aabb
Hadley Beeman: zkaim, mute aabb ←
13:06:28 <Zakim> - +33.4.93.00.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: - +33.4.93.00.aabb ←
13:07:14 <PhilA> zakim, who is here?
Phil Archer: zakim, who is here? ←
13:07:14 <Zakim> On the phone I see Seiji_Isotani, PhilA, MTcarrasco (muted), Steve, Ivan (muted), HadleyBeeman, ericstephan, CarlosIglesias, Yaso, Vinh, Makx_Dekkers
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Seiji_Isotani, PhilA, MTcarrasco (muted), Steve, Ivan (muted), HadleyBeeman, ericstephan, CarlosIglesias, Yaso, Vinh, Makx_Dekkers ←
13:07:16 <Zakim> On IRC I see gatemezi, herrmann_, herrmann, ericstephan, yaso, MakxDekkers, CarlosIglesias, MTcarrasco, RRSAgent, Vinh, PhilA, Zakim, HadleyBeeman, Seiji_Isotani, adler1,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see gatemezi, herrmann_, herrmann, ericstephan, yaso, MakxDekkers, CarlosIglesias, MTcarrasco, RRSAgent, Vinh, PhilA, Zakim, HadleyBeeman, Seiji_Isotani, adler1, ←
13:07:16 <Zakim> ... ErikMannens, ivan, sandro, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: ... ErikMannens, ivan, sandro, trackbot ←
13:07:30 <HadleyBeeman> agenda: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2014.02.07
13:08:09 <ericstephan> I can help
Eric Stephan: I can help ←
13:08:25 <adler1> thanks eric
Steven Adler: thanks eric ←
13:08:31 <ivan> scribenick: ericstephan
(Scribe set to Eric Stephan)
13:08:32 <ericstephan> scribe: Eric
13:08:42 <PhilA> scribe: ericstephan
13:08:45 <ericstephan> oops did I screw that up Ivan?
oops did I screw that up Ivan? ←
13:08:49 <ericstephan> thank you
thank you ←
13:09:10 <ericstephan> Topic: Last week's minutes
13:09:14 <adler1> +1
Steven Adler: +1 ←
13:09:14 <PhilA> Actually link in agenda is wrong, it should be http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-01-31
Phil Archer: Actually link in agenda is wrong, it should be http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-01-31 ←
13:09:29 <Zakim> + +33.4.93.00.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +33.4.93.00.aacc ←
13:09:31 <PhilA> PROPOSED RESOLUTION: accept minutes of 31 jan
Phil Archer: PROPOSED RESOLUTION: accept minutes of 31 jan ←
13:10:01 <ericstephan> +1
+1 ←
13:10:06 <adler1> +1
Steven Adler: +1 ←
13:10:07 <HadleyBeeman> +1
Hadley Beeman: +1 ←
13:10:09 <Seiji_Isotani> +1
Seiji Isotani: +1 ←
13:10:10 <CarlosIglesias> +1
Carlos Iglesias: +1 ←
13:10:10 <ErikMannens> +1
Erik Mannens: +1 ←
13:10:12 <yaso> +1
Yaso Córdova: +1 ←
13:10:14 <MTcarrasco> +1
13:10:19 <PhilA> +1
Phil Archer: +1 ←
13:10:20 <herrmann_> +1
Augusto Herrmann: +1 ←
13:10:27 <newton> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
13:10:57 <ericstephan> RESOLVED: accept the meetings of 31 jan
RESOLVED: accept the meetings of 31 jan ←
13:11:14 <ericstephan> TOPIC: Use cases
13:12:03 <Seiji_Isotani> +q
Seiji Isotani: +q ←
13:12:11 <ericstephan> No one has put use cases on the wiki yet.
No one has put use cases on the wiki yet. ←
13:12:21 <ericstephan> Steve: Does anyone know of any use cases?
Steven Adler: Does anyone know of any use cases? ←
13:12:29 <ericstephan> yes
yes ←
13:12:33 <PhilA> q?
Phil Archer: q? ←
13:12:40 <PhilA> ack Seiji_Isotani
Phil Archer: ack Seiji_Isotani ←
13:13:06 <yaso> zakim, newton is with yaso
Yaso Córdova: zakim, newton is with yaso ←
13:13:06 <Zakim> +newton; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +newton; got it ←
13:13:18 <ericstephan> Seiji_Isotani: Thought about the use cases, but still don't understand idea behind use cases, with regards to best practices
Seiji Isotani: Thought about the use cases, but still don't understand idea behind use cases, with regards to best practices ←
13:13:26 <adler1> ack seiji_Isotani
Steven Adler: ack seiji_Isotani ←
13:13:54 <ericstephan> Seiji_Isotani: Its seems still a bit vague
Seiji Isotani: Its seems still a bit vague ←
13:14:32 <PhilA> I like yaso's idea of the data lifecyle - could be useful
Phil Archer: I like yaso's idea of the data lifecyle - could be useful ←
13:14:43 <ericstephan> ????: Putting data on the web, and trace data life cyle on the web
Yaso Córdova: Putting data on the web, and trace data life cyle on the web ←
13:14:51 <ericstephan> was that yaso speaking?
was that yaso speaking? ←
13:14:56 <adler1> yes
Steven Adler: yes ←
13:14:58 <yaso> yes
Yaso Córdova: yes ←
13:14:59 <ericstephan> thank you
thank you ←
13:15:04 <MTcarrasco> zakim, unmute me
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, unmute me ←
13:15:04 <Zakim> MTcarrasco should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MTcarrasco should no longer be muted ←
13:15:07 <ericstephan> s/????/yaso/
13:15:09 <MTcarrasco> q+
13:15:15 <ivan> zakim, drop me
Ivan Herman: zakim, drop me ←
13:15:15 <Zakim> Ivan is being disconnected
Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan is being disconnected ←
13:15:17 <Zakim> -Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan ←
13:15:24 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-voip ←
13:15:24 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ivan; the call is being made ←
13:15:25 <Zakim> +Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ivan ←
13:15:36 <ivan> zakim, mute me
Ivan Herman: zakim, mute me ←
13:15:36 <Zakim> Ivan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan should now be muted ←
13:16:01 <ericstephan> Steve: Organized webinar with city of Palo Alto to look at challenges, publication, community uses, impacts and challenges that remain
Steven Adler: Organized webinar with city of Palo Alto to look at challenges, publication, community uses, impacts and challenges that remain ←
13:16:23 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
13:16:30 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is me
Antoine Isaac: zakim, IPcaller is me ←
13:16:30 <Zakim> +antoine; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +antoine; got it ←
13:16:45 <ericstephan> Steve: Use of webinars on a regular basis all these issues that Yaso mentioned will quickly clean out other issues.
Steven Adler: Use of webinars on a regular basis all these issues that Yaso mentioned will quickly clean out other issues. ←
13:16:45 <yaso> q+
Yaso Córdova: q+ ←
13:16:53 <adler1> ack
Steven Adler: ack ←
13:16:58 <PhilA> ack MTcarrasco
Phil Archer: ack MTcarrasco ←
13:17:51 <ericstephan> MTcarrasco: Will we be taking into account technical aspects of the problem?
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Will we be taking into account technical aspects of the problem? ←
13:18:00 <MTcarrasco> Use case: existing programs; e.g., Apache.
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Use case: existing programs; e.g., Apache. ←
13:18:02 <ericstephan> Did I capture that?
Did I capture that? ←
13:18:07 <ericstephan> thank you
thank you ←
13:19:06 <ericstephan> MTcarrasco: URI has a publication in 5 languages and different formats. In Apache it would give me spanish version
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: URI has a publication in 5 languages and different formats. In Apache it would give me spanish version ←
13:19:20 <MTcarrasco> http://example.com/1122.es.html
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: http://example.com/1122.es.html ←
13:19:34 <MTcarrasco> Get the Spanish, HTML variant
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Get the Spanish, HTML variant ←
13:19:50 <PhilA> Content negotiation is a standard feature of HTTP. Negotiation can be by file type and/or by language
Phil Archer: Content negotiation is a standard feature of HTTP. Negotiation can be by file type and/or by language ←
13:20:07 <ericstephan> Steve: Don't know how it fits in use case example..
Steven Adler: Don't know how it fits in use case example.. ←
13:20:22 <MTcarrasco> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/content-negotiation.html
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/content-negotiation.html ←
13:20:43 <ericstephan> PhilA: This is content negociation, underused on the web. But you can do this and it goes to the heart of the linked data world.
Phil Archer: This is content negociation, underused on the web. But you can do this and it goes to the heart of the linked data world. ←
13:21:02 <gatemezi> zakim, mute me
Ghislain Atemezing: zakim, mute me ←
13:21:02 <Zakim> sorry, gatemezi, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, gatemezi, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you ←
13:21:03 <ericstephan> q+
q+ ←
13:21:05 <MTcarrasco> URI identifies a "resources" that can have many variants
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: URI identifies a "resources" that can have many variants ←
13:21:16 <CarlosIglesias> Probably the need of different types of content addressing different user needs (language, format, etc.) is a good use case
Carlos Iglesias: Probably the need of different types of content addressing different user needs (language, format, etc.) is a good use case ←
13:21:29 <CarlosIglesias> But not the content negotiation mechanism itself
Carlos Iglesias: But not the content negotiation mechanism itself ←
13:21:38 <Zakim> +??P12
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P12 ←
13:21:46 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P12 is me
Joao Almeida: Zakim, ??P12 is me ←
13:21:46 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it ←
13:22:06 <PhilA> zakim, who is on the phone?
Phil Archer: zakim, who is on the phone? ←
13:22:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see Seiji_Isotani, PhilA, MTcarrasco, Steve, Ivan (muted), HadleyBeeman, ericstephan, CarlosIglesias, Yaso, Vinh, Makx_Dekkers, +33.4.93.00.aacc, antoine,
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see Seiji_Isotani, PhilA, MTcarrasco, Steve, Ivan (muted), HadleyBeeman, ericstephan, CarlosIglesias, Yaso, Vinh, Makx_Dekkers, +33.4.93.00.aacc, antoine, ←
13:22:10 <Zakim> ... JoaoPauloAlmeida
Zakim IRC Bot: ... JoaoPauloAlmeida ←
13:22:10 <Zakim> Yaso has Yaso, newton
Zakim IRC Bot: Yaso has Yaso, newton ←
13:22:18 <gatemezi> Zakim, +33.4.00.aacc is me
Ghislain Atemezing: Zakim, +33.4.00.aacc is me ←
13:22:18 <Zakim> sorry, gatemezi, I do not recognize a party named '+33.4.00.aacc'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, gatemezi, I do not recognize a party named '+33.4.00.aacc' ←
13:22:26 <ericstephan> MTcarrasco: United nations on Sudan, when one talks to the language, its in many languages and formats
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: United nations on Sudan, when one talks to the language, its in many languages and formats ←
13:22:38 <antoine> q+ about multilinguality
Antoine Isaac: q+ about multilinguality ←
13:22:47 <yaso> q_
Yaso Córdova: q_ ←
13:22:53 <MTcarrasco> To request a list of languages must go into the header fields
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: To request a list of languages must go into the header fields ←
13:23:05 <gatemezi> Zakim, aacc is me
Ghislain Atemezing: Zakim, aacc is me ←
13:23:05 <Zakim> +gatemezi; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +gatemezi; got it ←
13:23:19 <PhilA> ack antoine
Phil Archer: ack antoine ←
13:23:32 <MTcarrasco> See the examaples - https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_on_the_Web_URI_Best_Practices
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: See the examaples - https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/Data_on_the_Web_URI_Best_Practices ←
13:23:45 <ericstephan> Yaso: Introduced xx
Yaso Córdova: Introduced xx ←
13:24:26 <ericstephan> xx: A bit skeptical about putting all the complexities into the use cases
Antoine Isaac: A bit skeptical about putting all the complexities into the use cases ←
13:24:50 <gatemezi> s/xx/antoine
13:25:14 <ivan> zakim, drop me
Ivan Herman: zakim, drop me ←
13:25:15 <Zakim> Ivan is being disconnected
Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan is being disconnected ←
13:25:16 <Zakim> -Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan ←
13:25:23 <ivan> zakim, dial ivan-voip
Ivan Herman: zakim, dial ivan-voip ←
13:25:23 <Zakim> ok, ivan; the call is being made
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, ivan; the call is being made ←
13:25:25 <Zakim> +Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: +Ivan ←
13:26:00 <ericstephan> MTcarrasco: Question of languages and time, previous versions of the page. dimensions of linked data must be in use cases
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Question of languages and time, previous versions of the page. dimensions of linked data must be in use cases ←
13:26:41 <MTcarrasco> The key point is dimensions: language, format, previous version, perhaps other in the future
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: The key point is dimensions: language, format, previous version, perhaps other in the future ←
13:26:43 <Zakim> +yaso
Zakim IRC Bot: +yaso ←
13:26:46 <ericstephan> Steve: Can we identify multi-lingual as part of each use case?
Steven Adler: Can we identify multi-lingual as part of each use case? ←
13:26:52 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, mute me
Joao Almeida: Zakim, mute me ←
13:26:52 <Zakim> JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted ←
13:27:39 <antoine> +1 with what Steve proposed: let's let the cases raise/ack the issue and be ready to investigate more.
Antoine Isaac: +1 with what Steve proposed: let's let the cases raise/ack the issue and we be ready to investigate more. ←
13:27:55 <antoine> s/be ready/we be ready/
13:28:17 <ericstephan> q+
q+ ←
13:28:21 <adler1> ack
Steven Adler: ack ←
13:28:33 <HadleyBeeman> ack yaso
Hadley Beeman: ack yaso ←
13:28:37 <ivan> zakim, mute me
Ivan Herman: zakim, mute me ←
13:28:37 <Zakim> Ivan should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: Ivan should now be muted ←
13:28:39 <antoine> ack about
Antoine Isaac: ack about ←
13:28:46 <antoine> ack multilinguality
Antoine Isaac: ack multilinguality ←
13:29:02 <MTcarrasco> Do not address just the particular case of languages
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Do not address just the particular case of languages ←
13:29:10 <adler1> ok
Steven Adler: ok ←
13:30:18 <HadleyBeeman> q+
Hadley Beeman: q+ ←
13:30:26 <ericstephan> q+
q+ ←
13:30:36 <adler1> ack ericstephan
Steven Adler: ack ericstephan ←
13:30:47 <MTcarrasco> q+
13:30:58 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> q+
Joao Almeida: q+ ←
13:31:02 <adler1> ack HadleyBeeman
Steven Adler: ack HadleyBeeman ←
13:31:14 <HadleyBeeman> http://www.w3.org/2013/05/odbp-charter.html#Scope
Hadley Beeman: http://www.w3.org/2013/05/odbp-charter.html#Scope ←
13:31:34 <ericstephan> HadleyBeeman: Charter - our working group will be agnostic for technology...
Hadley Beeman: Charter - our working group will be agnostic for technology... ←
13:32:17 <MakxDekkers> q+
Makx Dekkers: q+ ←
13:32:17 <MTcarrasco> I come from the URI
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: I come from the URI ←
13:32:17 <ericstephan> HadleyBeeman: If we do our jobs properly our impact can be greater than linked data.
Hadley Beeman: If we do our jobs properly our impact can be greater than linked data. ←
13:32:18 <PhilA> q?
Phil Archer: q? ←
13:32:27 <yaso> q+
Yaso Córdova: q+ ←
13:32:27 <adler1> ack MTcarrasco
Steven Adler: ack MTcarrasco ←
13:32:41 <Vinh> how about the provenance metadata for measuring quality of the Web data?
Vinh Nguyen: how about the provenance metadata for measuring quality of the Web data? ←
13:32:55 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> ack me
Joao Almeida: ack me ←
13:33:10 <adler1> danke
Steven Adler: danke ←
13:33:32 <adler1> kool
Steven Adler: kool ←
13:33:32 <ericstephan> JoaoPauloAlmedia: To answer your question, how can data be published on the web for better interoperability.
Joao Almeida: To answer your question, how can data be published on the web for better interoperability. ←
13:33:44 <MTcarrasco> +1
13:33:58 <ericstephan> JoaoPauloAlmedia: When selecting a vocabulary or schema, how should we do that?
Joao Almeida: When selecting a vocabulary or schema, how should we do that? ←
13:33:59 <PhilA> q+ to answer this question
Phil Archer: q+ to answer this question ←
13:34:29 <PhilA> q-
Phil Archer: q- ←
13:34:45 <ericstephan> JoaoPauloAlmedia: How should it look like as it is expressed in different technologies, for mulitople levels of interoperability.
Joao Almeida: How should it look like as it is expressed in different technologies, for mulitople levels of interoperability. ←
13:35:18 <ericstephan> JoaoPauloAlmedia: How can domains come together to define vocabularies and follow best practices that others can consume?
Joao Almeida: How can domains come together to define vocabularies and follow best practices that others can consume? ←
13:35:37 <adler1> ack next
Steven Adler: ack next ←
13:36:01 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> PhilA, thanks, I changed my SIP provider
Joao Almeida: PhilA, thanks, I changed my SIP provider ←
13:36:34 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, who is speaking
Joao Almeida: Zakim, who is speaking ←
13:36:34 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is speaking', JoaoPauloAlmeida
Zakim IRC Bot: I don't understand 'who is speaking', JoaoPauloAlmeida ←
13:36:40 <yaso> zakim, who's making noise?
Yaso Córdova: zakim, who's making noise? ←
13:36:41 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, who is talking?
Joao Almeida: Zakim, who is talking? ←
13:36:47 <MTcarrasco> zakim, mute me
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, mute me ←
13:36:47 <Zakim> MTcarrasco should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MTcarrasco should now be muted ←
13:36:48 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, mute me
Joao Almeida: Zakim, mute me ←
13:36:49 <Zakim> JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted ←
13:36:51 <Zakim> yaso, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: JoaoPauloAlmeida (50%)
Zakim IRC Bot: yaso, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: JoaoPauloAlmeida (50%) ←
13:37:02 <Zakim> JoaoPauloAlmeida, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds
Zakim IRC Bot: JoaoPauloAlmeida, listening for 10 seconds I could not identify any sounds ←
13:37:08 <ericstephan> MakxDekkers: Just following up on dimensions and what was said earlier. When we talk about data, what data are we talking about, vocabularies, documents, images, sensor data, how can we abstract to something that is general.
Makx Dekkers: Just following up on dimensions and what was said earlier. When we talk about data, what data are we talking about, vocabularies, documents, images, sensor data, how can we abstract to something that is general. ←
13:37:31 <MTcarrasco> All data
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: All data ←
13:37:32 <ericstephan> MakxDekkers: I've always tried to find out when we talk about data, what do we mean?
Makx Dekkers: I've always tried to find out when we talk about data, what do we mean? ←
13:37:38 <ericstephan> q+
q+ ←
13:37:40 <gatemezi> All data...
Ghislain Atemezing: All data... ←
13:37:53 <MTcarrasco> zakim, unmute me
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: zakim, unmute me ←
13:37:53 <Zakim> MTcarrasco should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: MTcarrasco should no longer be muted ←
13:37:58 <ericstephan> all of it
all of it ←
13:37:59 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> to me primarily "structured data"
Joao Almeida: to me primarily "structured data" ←
13:38:01 <yaso> all data
Yaso Córdova: all data ←
13:38:10 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> but we would need to define that, which is tricky
Joao Almeida: but we would need to define that, which is tricky ←
13:38:11 <Zakim> +yaso
Zakim IRC Bot: +yaso ←
13:38:14 <ericstephan> -q
-q ←
13:38:23 <Zakim> -yaso
Zakim IRC Bot: -yaso ←
13:38:36 <yaso> http://www.od4d.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/cadeiaDadosAbertosGerenciamentoCicloEn.png
Yaso Córdova: http://www.od4d.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/cadeiaDadosAbertosGerenciamentoCicloEn.png ←
13:38:38 <adler1> ack yaso
Steven Adler: ack yaso ←
13:39:40 <MTcarrasco> Or type
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Or type ←
13:40:18 <PhilA> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
13:40:31 <ericstephan> Yaso: Used a draft to put data on the web, training managers, handle each phase separating how data is put on the web. We could treat the process as a real life cycle
Yaso Córdova: Used a draft to put data on the web, training managers, handle each phase separating how data is put on the web. We could treat the process as a real life cycle ←
13:41:02 <PhilA> q-
Phil Archer: q- ←
13:41:08 <ericstephan> Steve: Information, Linked Data, Web is everyone clear about these terms.
Steven Adler: Information, Linked Data, Web and Open Data is everyone clear about these terms. ←
13:41:09 <MakxDekkers> -1
Makx Dekkers: -1 ←
13:41:24 <MakxDekkers> q+
Makx Dekkers: q+ ←
13:41:34 <antoine> s/Web/Web and Open Data/
13:42:04 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> in our sense, Open data is at least data that can be used across actors
Joao Almeida: in our sense, Open data is at least data that can be used across actors ←
13:42:12 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> that someone else will be able to consume
Joao Almeida: that someone else will be able to consume ←
13:42:13 <PhilA> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
13:42:40 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> again, from the charter: "The mission of the Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group, part of the Data Activity, is:
Joao Almeida: again, from the charter: "The mission of the Data on the Web Best Practices Working Group, part of the Data Activity, is: ←
13:42:41 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> - to develop the open data ecosystem, facilitating better communication between developers and publishers;"
Joao Almeida: - to develop the open data ecosystem, facilitating better communication between developers and publishers;" ←
13:42:48 <ericstephan> Steve: For you the scope is the EU decides what data is open and what is closed for best practices.
Steven Adler: For you the scope is the EU decides what data is open and what is closed for best practices. ←
13:42:51 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> so "communication" is key
Joao Almeida: so "communication" is key ←
13:43:15 <antoine> q?
Antoine Isaac: q? ←
13:43:18 <CarlosIglesias> The scope is best practices for data publishing on the web and IMO openness should be one of the best practices
Carlos Iglesias: The scope is best practices for data publishing on the web and IMO openness should be one of the best practices ←
13:43:23 <PhilA> ack MakxDekkers
Phil Archer: ack MakxDekkers ←
13:43:43 <ericstephan> MakxDekkers: While preparing for the call, is it open data is what you can get to.
Makx Dekkers: While preparing for the call, is it open data is what you can get to. ←
13:43:57 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1
Joao Almeida: +1 ←
13:43:58 <ericstephan> MakxDekkers: Our focus should be "data on the web"
Makx Dekkers: Our focus should be "data on the web" ←
13:44:12 <antoine> q+
Antoine Isaac: q+ ←
13:44:12 <PhilA> ack me
Phil Archer: ack me ←
13:44:20 <MTcarrasco> The URI http://example.com/1122 might have some variants with clean data and some variants with unclean data
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: The URI http://example.com/1122 might have some variants with clean data and some variants with unclean data ←
13:44:53 <ericstephan> PhilA: In the charter it does say open data is in scope.
Phil Archer: In the charter it does say open data is in scope. ←
13:45:22 <CarlosIglesias> I think we should cover whatever data on the web (open or closed) but encourage open data as one of the best practices (you may decide to be fulfilling or not)
Carlos Iglesias: I think we should cover whatever data on the web (open or closed) but encourage open data as one of the best practices (you may decide to be fulfilling or not) ←
13:45:26 <antoine> q-
Antoine Isaac: q- ←
13:45:39 <ericstephan> PhilA: Example: Open Data is used to augment data being held internally.
Phil Archer: Example: Open Data is used to augment data being held internally. ←
13:45:42 <ericstephan> +q
+q ←
13:45:48 <MakxDekkers> q+
Makx Dekkers: q+ ←
13:45:53 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> If we ensure semantic interoperability than we are a long way towards "openness"
Joao Almeida: If we ensure semantic interoperability than we are a long way towards "openness" ←
13:45:54 <MTcarrasco> The data might start as confidential and later might become open (published)
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: The data might start as confidential and later might become open (published) ←
13:46:19 <gatemezi> well, if the data is "closed" on the Web, it will be difficult to have access and consume it...
Ghislain Atemezing: well, if the data is "closed" on the Web, it will be difficult to have access and consume it... ←
13:46:41 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> q+
Joao Almeida: q+ ←
13:46:43 <ericstephan> Open - has a temporal nature
Open - has a temporal nature ←
13:46:50 <ericstephan> as well in the sciences
as well in the sciences ←
13:47:23 <ericstephan> Steve: Cultural and resource limitations of publishing open data
Steven Adler: Cultural and resource limitations of publishing open data ←
13:47:26 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, who is speaking?
Joao Almeida: Zakim, who is speaking? ←
13:47:43 <Zakim> JoaoPauloAlmeida, listening for 15 seconds I could not identify any sounds
Zakim IRC Bot: JoaoPauloAlmeida, listening for 15 seconds I could not identify any sounds ←
13:48:25 <ericstephan> Steve: What are the steps and best practices, want to publish the data on the web, other layers.
Steven Adler: What are the steps and best practices, want to publish the data on the web, other layers. ←
13:48:27 <ericstephan> q+
q+ ←
13:49:15 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> PhilA, thanks
Joao Almeida: PhilA, thanks ←
13:49:38 <PhilA> ack ericstephan
Phil Archer: ack ericstephan ←
13:49:41 <PhilA> ack MakxDekkers
Phil Archer: ack MakxDekkers ←
13:50:10 <PhilA> q+
Phil Archer: q+ ←
13:50:22 <adler1> ack jao
Steven Adler: ack jao ←
13:50:24 <CarlosIglesias> +1 to focus on organizational aspects first
Carlos Iglesias: +1 to focus on organizational aspects first ←
13:50:24 <ericstephan> MakxDekkers: Sometimes people have a technology focus. Licensing arrangement is important
Makx Dekkers: Sometimes people have a technology focus. Licensing arrangement is important ←
13:50:39 <MTcarrasco> Data quality might be a dimension. For example, the same data (Spanish, XML, raw-data), (Spanish,XML,cleaned).
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Data quality might be a dimension. For example, the same data (Spanish, XML, raw-data), (Spanish,XML,cleaned). ←
13:50:57 <ericstephan> MakxDekkers: Quality, guarentees, persistency over time, etc.
Makx Dekkers: Quality, guarentees, persistency over time, etc. ←
13:51:03 <PhilA> Am I hearing Makx offering to lead the work on the extension to DCAT to cover quality and commitment?
Phil Archer: Am I hearing Makx offering to lead the work on the extension to DCAT to cover quality and commitment? ←
13:51:03 <adler1> in addition to cultural, political, and financial factors, there are also organizational and legal practices to consider
Steven Adler: in addition to cultural, political, and financial factors, there are also organizational and legal practices to consider ←
13:51:04 <CarlosIglesias> need to know the challenges well before being able of start evaluating technical decissions
Carlos Iglesias: need to know the challenges well before being able of start evaluating technical decissions ←
13:51:20 <PhilA> ack JoaoPauloAlmeida
Phil Archer: ack JoaoPauloAlmeida ←
13:51:22 <Zakim> -JoaoPauloAlmeida
Zakim IRC Bot: -JoaoPauloAlmeida ←
13:51:38 <PhilA> ack me
Phil Archer: ack me ←
13:51:40 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> sorry, call dropped :-(
Joao Almeida: sorry, call dropped :-( ←
13:51:52 <MTcarrasco> Dimensions - language, format, quality, time (previous versions)
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: Dimensions - language, format, quality, time (previous versions) ←
13:51:55 <Zakim> +??P12
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P12 ←
13:52:00 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, ??P12 is me
Joao Almeida: Zakim, ??P12 is me ←
13:52:00 <Zakim> +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +JoaoPauloAlmeida; got it ←
13:52:19 <ericstephan> PhilA: Agreed with Makx, organizational aspects etc. W3C is a technical organization...technolgical details is fine
Phil Archer: Agreed with Makx, organizational aspects etc. W3C is a technical organization...technolgical details is fine ←
13:52:20 <MakxDekkers> q+
Makx Dekkers: q+ ←
13:52:57 <ericstephan> PhilA: Recommends MakxDekkers for Data Quality Vocab
Phil Archer: Recommends MakxDekkers for Data Quality Vocab ←
13:53:02 <PhilA> ack MakxDekkers
Phil Archer: ack MakxDekkers ←
13:53:28 <gatemezi> +1 to PhilA recommendation
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 to PhilA recommendation ←
13:53:33 <ericstephan> +1
+1 ←
13:53:41 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> the call dropped when I was about to speak: It seems to me that before discussing "use cases" we need some basic concepts. We need to use the BP document from GLDWG, which already has a "process" for open data and other sources such as the cycle that Yaso presented.
Joao Almeida: the call dropped when I was about to speak: It seems to me that before discussing "use cases" we need some basic concepts. We need to use the BP document from GLDWG, which already has a "process" for open data and other sources such as the cycle that Yaso presented. ←
13:53:42 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/bp/index.html
Joao Almeida: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/raw-file/default/bp/index.html ←
13:53:42 <yaso> +1
Yaso Córdova: +1 ←
13:53:48 <antoine> MakxDekkers++
Antoine Isaac: MakxDekkers++ ←
13:54:08 <ericstephan> +1
+1 ←
13:54:13 <Seiji_Isotani> +1
Seiji Isotani: +1 ←
13:54:14 <gatemezi> +1
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 ←
13:54:15 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1
Joao Almeida: +1 ←
13:54:25 <ericstephan> No just agreeing with you
No just agreeing with you ←
13:55:06 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> Zakim, mute me
Joao Almeida: Zakim, mute me ←
13:55:06 <Zakim> JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: JoaoPauloAlmeida should now be muted ←
13:55:08 <newton> +1
Newton Calegari: +1 ←
13:55:10 <ericstephan> Steve: Put out article in magazine to make people more aware of what we are doing
Steven Adler: Put out article in magazine to make people more aware of what we are doing ←
13:55:28 <MakxDekkers> This? http://ibmdatamag.com/2014/01/data-open-to-the-masses/
Makx Dekkers: This? http://ibmdatamag.com/2014/01/data-open-to-the-masses/ ←
13:55:34 <PhilA> RRSAgent, make logs public
Phil Archer: RRSAgent, make logs public ←
13:55:48 <ericstephan> Steve: IBM article gets 30-70K people looking at this
Steven Adler: IBM article gets 30-70K people looking at this ←
13:55:48 <PhilA> That's the one MakxDekkers
Phil Archer: That's the one MakxDekkers ←
13:56:04 <ericstephan> TOPIC FTF Meeting in London
TOPIC FTF Meeting in London ←
13:56:12 <ericstephan> Topic: FTF Meeting in London
13:56:20 <antoine> q+
Antoine Isaac: q+ ←
13:56:23 <MTcarrasco> mememto http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7089
Manuel Carrasco Benitez: memento http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7089 ←
13:56:32 <CarlosIglesias> Are dates for the F2F final?
Carlos Iglesias: Are dates for the F2F final? ←
13:56:33 <PhilA> Skeleton page in place on the wiki at https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/London_2014
Phil Archer: Skeleton page in place on the wiki at https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/London_2014 ←
13:56:45 <PhilA> ack antoine
Phil Archer: ack antoine ←
13:56:47 <MTcarrasco> s/mememto/memento/
13:56:47 <ericstephan> Steve: Technical dimensions, cultural, political, organizational, language etc all in scope
Steven Adler: Technical dimensions, cultural, political, organizational, language etc all in scope ←
13:57:09 <ericstephan> Steve: could be 1.5 to 2 full days
Steven Adler: could be 1.5 to 2 full days ←
13:57:41 <ericstephan> Steve: March 31- April 1 Any problems with these days?
Steven Adler: March 31- April 1 Any problems with these days? ←
13:57:49 <ericstephan> q+
q+ ←
13:58:14 <MakxDekkers> mid-morning to mid-afternoon?
Makx Dekkers: mid-morning to mid-afternoon? ←
13:58:19 <PhilA> ack ericstephan
Phil Archer: ack ericstephan ←
13:58:44 <Vagner_Br> +1 to PhilA recommnedation
Vagner Diniz: +1 to PhilA recommnedation ←
13:58:45 <ericstephan> Steve: Remote capabilities available
Steven Adler: Remote capabilities available ←
13:59:16 <ericstephan> Should we vote on this?
Should we vote on this? ←
13:59:25 <ericstephan> Or should we do this in email?
Or should we do this in email? ←
14:00:15 <antoine> q+
Antoine Isaac: q+ ←
14:00:17 <ericstephan> Steve: Local speakers could be brought in from other efforts
Steven Adler: Local speakers could be brought in from other efforts ←
14:00:45 <antoine> q?
Antoine Isaac: q? ←
14:00:51 <ericstephan> PhilA: I believe that is off
Phil Archer: I believe that is off ←
14:01:00 <Vagner_Br> I suggest 2 full days. It is gonna be the first F2F meeting. Many issues to address.
Vagner Diniz: I suggest 2 full days. It is gonna be the first F2F meeting. Many issues to address. ←
14:01:04 <PhilA> +1 to Hadley
Phil Archer: +1 to Hadley ←
14:01:07 <ericstephan> oops you didn't say that PhilA - I was directing comment to you
oops you didn't say that PhilA - I was directing comment to you ←
14:02:11 <ericstephan> Steve: First half of first day use cases and challenges as well as agenda.
Steven Adler: First half of first day use cases and challenges as well as agenda. ←
14:02:14 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> there could be "position statements" (how each of us perceive scope and intent)
Joao Almeida: there could be "position statements" (how each of us perceive scope and intent) ←
14:02:15 <MakxDekkers> Sorry, have to run. Will read minutes. Talk to you next week.
Makx Dekkers: Sorry, have to run. Will read minutes. Talk to you next week. ←
14:02:22 <Zakim> -Makx_Dekkers
Zakim IRC Bot: -Makx_Dekkers ←
14:02:33 <ericstephan> HadleyBeeman: Hammer this out on wiki page
Hadley Beeman: Hammer this out on wiki page ←
14:02:37 <PhilA> https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/London_2014
Phil Archer: https://www.w3.org/2013/dwbp/wiki/London_2014 ←
14:02:54 <ericstephan> futuristic
futuristic ←
14:03:25 <PhilA> ack antoine
Phil Archer: ack antoine ←
14:03:52 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> +1
Joao Almeida: +1 ←
14:04:03 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> speakers should be very well selected...
Joao Almeida: speakers should be very well selected... ←
14:04:05 <ericstephan> Antoine: The agenda to get people in from the Open Data movement in the UK. Would this remove our focus?
Antoine Isaac: The agenda to get people in from the Open Data movement in the UK. Would this remove our focus? ←
14:04:19 <HadleyBeeman> q+
Hadley Beeman: q+ ←
14:04:37 <ericstephan> Steve: Not a workshop, just some speakers to help provide different points of view
Steven Adler: Not a workshop, just some speakers to help provide different points of view ←
14:04:48 <PhilA> How about guests cf. speakers? i.e. invite Jeni along for a session or two
Phil Archer: How about guests cf. speakers? i.e. invite Jeni along for a session or two ←
14:05:03 <ericstephan> HadleyBeeman: The more strongly we define the agenda the more we can avoid.
Hadley Beeman: The more strongly we define the agenda the more we can avoid. ←
14:05:31 <Zakim> -Ivan
Zakim IRC Bot: -Ivan ←
14:05:42 <gatemezi> thanks all!
Ghislain Atemezing: thanks all! ←
14:05:46 <PhilA> http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-02-07
Phil Archer: http://www.w3.org/2013/meeting/dwbp/2014-02-07 ←
14:05:52 <gatemezi> -gatemezi
Ghislain Atemezing: -gatemezi ←
14:05:54 <Zakim> -antoine
Zakim IRC Bot: -antoine ←
14:05:59 <Zakim> -gatemezi
Zakim IRC Bot: -gatemezi ←
14:08:00 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> that's happing so often to me, I would like to understand why my calls drop after a while. And I am now using a different SIP provider, ...
Joao Almeida: that's happing so often to me, I would like to understand why my calls drop after a while. And I am now using a different SIP provider, ... ←
14:08:02 <Seiji_Isotani> lost connection
Seiji Isotani: lost connection ←
14:08:13 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> wow, Zakim, could me less strict :-0
Joao Almeida: wow, Zakim, could me less strict :-0 ←
14:08:18 <HadleyBeeman> What a shame! Sorry.
Hadley Beeman: What a shame! Sorry. ←
14:08:40 <JoaoPauloAlmeida> can we set the time slot allocated for the conference differently, so that it keeps open at least for 30 minutes after the formal end of the call?
Joao Almeida: can we set the time slot allocated for the conference differently, so that it keeps open at least for 30 minutes after the formal end of the call? ←
14:11:10 <christianmiranda> srry guys, we gtg, seeyall
Christian Miranda: srry guys, we gtg, seeyall ←
14:11:43 <Zakim> -yaso
Zakim IRC Bot: -yaso ←
14:13:49 <Zakim> -ericstephan
Zakim IRC Bot: -ericstephan ←
14:17:14 <yaso> q+
Yaso Córdova: q+ ←
14:18:03 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman ←
14:18:05 <Zakim> -Steve
Zakim IRC Bot: -Steve ←
14:18:06 <yaso> -q
Yaso Córdova: -q ←
14:18:08 <Zakim> -PhilA
Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA ←
14:18:11 <HadleyBeeman> q-
Hadley Beeman: q- ←
14:18:14 <Zakim> -CarlosIglesias
Zakim IRC Bot: -CarlosIglesias ←
14:18:31 <Zakim> -Yaso
Zakim IRC Bot: -Yaso ←
14:18:32 <Zakim> DATA_DWBP()8:00AM has ended
Zakim IRC Bot: DATA_DWBP()8:00AM has ended ←
14:18:32 <Zakim> Attendees were Vinh, Seiji_Isotani, PhilA, Tcarrasco, Steve, Ivan, HadleyBeeman, +33.4.93.00.aaaa, ericstephan, +33.4.93.00.aabb, Makx_Dekkers, CarlosIglesias, Yaso,
Zakim IRC Bot: Attendees were Vinh, Seiji_Isotani, PhilA, Tcarrasco, Steve, Ivan, HadleyBeeman, +33.4.93.00.aaaa, ericstephan, +33.4.93.00.aabb, Makx_Dekkers, CarlosIglesias, Yaso, ←
14:18:32 <Zakim> ... +33.4.93.00.aacc, newton, antoine, JoaoPauloAlmeida, gatemezi
Zakim IRC Bot: ... +33.4.93.00.aacc, newton, antoine, JoaoPauloAlmeida, gatemezi ←
14:31:11 <PhilA> zakim, bye
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Phil Archer: zakim, bye ←
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