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Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference

17 Dec 2013

Agenda

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Attendees

Present
AWK, Sailesh_Panchang, +1.617.959.aaaa, David_MacDonald, Michael_Cooper, Michel_Fitos, Marc_Johlic, Katie_Haritos-Shea, Alastair_Campbell, Kathy_Wahlbin, Loretta, kerstin_, James_Nurthen, Gregg_Vanderheiden, Cooper
Regrets
Chair
AWK
Scribe
Michel, David

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 17 December 2013

<AWK> Scribe: Michel

Next meeting

<MichaelC> scribe: David

<AWK> Next meeting is 7 January 2014, no meeting next two weeks

Continue ARIA Techniques review - only #4 and #6 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20131126ARIA_Techniques/

No meeting Christmas eve or new years eve... next meeting Jan. 7

test

http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-labelledby_to_provide_a_name_for_user_interface_controls

<AWK> http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-labelledby_to_provide_a_name_for_user_interface_controls

example 4 repeats the label element "notify me 1 days in advance notify me, combobox" repeated because the label for is repeating both in FF and IE with JAWs...

<Zakim> Loretta, you wanted to say that landmark example could be moved to "Using ARIA landmarks to identify regions of a page"

remove example 3 from aria labelledby on user interface controls

awk: let's release them... if we get comments, we can address them

accepted as amended http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-labelledby_to_provide_a_name_for_user_interface_controls

http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-labelledby_to_concatenate_a_label_from_several_text_nodes

<AWK> opps. That is incorrect.

http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/ARIA2:_Identifying_required_fields_with_the_aria-required_property

RESOLUTION: Accepted as amended http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/ARIA2:_Identifying_required_fields_with_the_aria-required_property

RESOLUTON: accepted as amended http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-labelledby_to_provide_a_name_for_user_interface_controls

Misc survey for December 10, 2013 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20131210/

ARIA Technique: Using ARIA Live Regions or role=alert to Identify Errors .

AWK: discussion regarding whether to use role="alert" vs. aria-live="assertive" not really enough time to create another example... maybe a example for assertive later... but put out for comment now

RESOLUTION: accept as amended http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_ARIA_Live_Regions_or_role%3Dalert_to_Identify_Errors http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_ARIA_Live_Regions_or_role%3Dalert_to_Identify_Errors

http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_ARIA_Live_Regions_or_role%3Dalert_to_Identify_Errors using grouping roles for form controls

James will remove the first DIV from example 2

<AWK> ACTION: Alastair to provide live example for example 2 of http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_grouping_roles_to_identify_related_form_controls [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/12/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-236 - Provide live example for example 2 of http://www.w3.org/wai/gl/wiki/using_grouping_roles_to_identify_related_form_controls [on Alastair Campbell - due 2013-12-24].

RESOLUTION: accept as amended Using ARIA Live Regions or role=alert to Identify Errors http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_ARIA_Live_Regions_or_role%3Dalert_to_Identify_Errors pending example by Alastair

Comment on F16

RESOLUTION: Accepted response as ammended

Table failure modification

<AWK> http://mars.dequecloud.com/demo/Table-multi-col.htm

RESOLUTION: Leave this open for table failure

Misc survey for December 17, 2013 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20131217Misc/

F89

<AWK> Failure of Success Criteria 2.4.4, 2.4.9 and 4.1.2 for not providing a accessible name for an image where it is the only content within a link and not providing a name for the link in another manner.

<AWK> Failure of Success Criteria 2.4.4, 2.4.9 and 4.1.2 due to using null alt on an image where the image is the only content in a link and not providing a name in another manner

RESOLUTION: Accepted as amended F89... can make editorial change later...

4. ARIA TF: Using aria-alertdialog to Identify Errors

<Alastairc> Perhaps: Note that the alertdialog should not be in the static HTML in a way that would accessed by assistive technology before it is relevant. For example, it could be inserted into the HTML by a script, or it could be hidden with CSS of display: none, and an attribute of aria-hidden-true.

RESOLUTION: Accepted as amended http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_aria-alertdialog_to_Identify_Errors Using aria-alertdialog to Identify Errors

We will leave open other items...

The plan is to put all this into a form to look at and release it after review in the new year...

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: Alastair to provide live example for example 2 of http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/Using_grouping_roles_to_identify_related_form_controls [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/12/17-wai-wcag-minutes.html#action01]
 
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