<trackbot> Date: 22 August 2013

its adam

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<Loretta> hello?

i can

detlev, loretta: skip first technique because paul not present

ARIA-edit: F85: Failure of Success Criterion 2.4.3 due to using dialogs or menus that are not adjacent to their trigger control in the sequential navigation order

loretta has added detlev's suggested additional text to explain why dialogs inserted at the end of the page can be problematic

detlev suggests making the syntax gender neutral - loretta will make the change

detlev: re jon's comment of having a good example (non failure) - might be confusing - loretta: we basically have adopted this convention of not having a success example in a failure

loretta: leave this technique open because of edits we just made

detlev: we should really have a technique for properly scripting dialog with correct focus behavior

loretta: add to the wiki page this suggested technique - need a good title

<pauljadam> http://pauljadam.com/moderna11y/#dialogs

<Detlev> http://3needs.org/en/testing/code/role-dialog-3.html

resolution: leave F85 open

<Loretta> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/20130815ttf/results#xlabel

Using ARIA Live Regions or role=alert to Identify Errors

resolution: paul will check out comments from survey and make edits for next meeting

ARIA-edit: F86: Failure of Success Criterion 4.1.2 due to not providing names for each part of a multi-part form field, such as a US telephone number

loretta: will edit per detlev's comment re aria-label and id

is describedby sufficient here?

if describedby has support - it doesnt fail

detlev - we could add generic reference to aria instead of detailing which properties satisfy

<Loretta> http://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG-TECHS/failures.html#F86

loretta: we could leave off alternative procedure for html,xhtml
... perhaps we could mention that each form field needs a name w/o specifying what the name needs to be
... i will take another stab at this based upon our comments here

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