User Agent Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference -- 07 Mar 2013

<trackbot> Date: 07 March 2013

<allanj> scribe: jallan

<allanj> question: resolution to publish?

<allanj> open item 3

<allanj> Need to get a TR document published

<allanj> Resolution: Publish a TR draft

great group consensus on publishing.

charter survey https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/36791/20130227/results

<allanj> Charter consensus 15 March

<allanj> current charter http://www.w3.org/WAI/UA/2010/uawg_charter.html

introduction

<allanj> jim and kelly no change

<allanj> js: change date

<allanj> all ok with intro

Scope

<allanj> jim: 6. best practices. Seems like a lot to do given the number of working members.

<allanj> js: if 6 not in charter we can't work on it.

<allanj> kp: thinks we should keep 6

<allanj> gl: fix typo 'info' to 'into' in item 7

<allanj> js: WAI 3.0 combine all WAI guidelines into 1 big document

<allanj> gl: WAI 3.0 is ambiguous

<allanj> ... what does it mean?

<jeanne> JS: this is a very loose name for a number of ideas for future work

<allanj> WAI 3.0 should be explained more in the Charter

<allanj> js: 1. Scope are things we might work on. 1.1 things we must do.

<allanj> gl: rephrase 1.1 Implementations of UAAG 2.0 during Candidate Recommendation to be ...

<allanj> ... during CR there will be implementations of UAAG 2.0

<jeanne> During Candidate Recommendation phase, there will be implementations of UAAG 2.0.

Deliverables

<allanj> jim, kelly, jeanne, kim, simon, greg ok

dependencies

<allanj> js: removing Text Samples workforce as it no longer meets.

<jeanne> UAAG 2.0 will rely on the Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 2.0 to set out best practices for web content;

<allanj> change bullet 1 to 'best practices for web content'

<allanj> all ok.

milestones

<allanj> getting to last call - 3 months with some extended telecons

<allanj> kp: 4 months with at least a 2 day call or f2f

writing tests

<allanj> jim: 9-12 months

<allanj> kf: 6 months

<allanj> js: 9 months

<allanj> atag testing document http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2012/ATAG20tests/ATAG2-10April2012PublicWD-Tests-rev20121119

<allanj> write off line, review during calls. try to only look at it once.

<allanj> lean on conservative estimate

<allanj> ok for 9 months!

last call comments

<allanj> js: this will occur at same time as writing tests

<allanj> js: 9 months

<allanj> ja: +1

<allanj> js: should have tests written while waiting for LC comments

<allanj> ja: concerned with to short a timeline.

<allanj> js: 1 year - test and comments

<allanj> kp: +1

<allanj> gl: 2 years...these things take lots longer

<allanj> ja: split and call it 18 months

<allanj> scribe: allanj

js: expect about 250 comments
... charter is only good for 3 years

kf: given current estimates we are at 40 months

js: 2 months final assembly
... 12 months testing

<jeanne> s/2 months final assembly

<jeanne> <allanj> js: 12 months testing/12 months Proposed Recommendation and AC review

kf: LC 4

<jeanne> KF: 4 months until Last Call

<jeanne> KF: 22 months for Writing tests and responding to LC comments

<jeanne> KF: 12 months for Implementation testing

<jeanne> s/ s/2 months final assembly//

<jeanne> s/js: 12 months testing/12 months Proposed Recommendation and AC review//2 Proposed Recommendation

js: testing - 2 implementations for each SC, and it exists in the 'real world'

browsers, mobile, media player, extensions X platforms/OS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Countries_by_most_used_web_browser.svg

consensus 22 Months Writing and responding LC

<jeanne> ACTION: jeanne to update the charter for the group to approve for next week. [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/03/07-ua-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-805 - Update the charter for the group to approve for next week. [on Jeanne F Spellman - due 2013-03-14].

12 months Implementation testing and AC etc.

next week, review charter try to wrap conformance.

<Greg> I was wrong, we currently have 137 SC.

137 - YIKES!!

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