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<daveL_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2013Feb/0066.html
https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/open
https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/open
<daveL_> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/open
We start with open action items.
DaveL says lots are assigned to Felix, so we need volunteers to help
Action-215 (Generate a sample of testing involving XLIFF) David Filip has prepared some samples.
At last meeting it was decided we need more samples, daveL made some, with Leroy, and after testing they will be put up
daveL is closing action item 215
Action-251 (make the necessary steps for the mime type section during last call mentioned at http://www.w3.org/2002/06/registering-mediatype) to Felix still open
Action 277 (Color-code cells in Mappings table dependent on unstable ITS categories or in XLIFF) to David Filip is still ongoing as we still need work on XLIFF
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DaveL is willing to take over Action-310 (Go through the document and check data category naming (capital first letter plus hyperlink)
<fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/310 now daveL
Action-333 (Check if the tables in the draft can get a caption and numbering (might need change to odd and xslt) DaveL is asking whether anyone other than Felix, from editors is on the call.
<daveL_> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/333
Shaunm will take over Action-333
<fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/333 now shaun
Jirka has agreed to take over action-341 (check syntax highlighting of html examples with focus on quotes)
ACTION-356 (Draft non-normative definition of "annotation") sill open with Christian L
<fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/341 now jirka
Action-377 (provide rewrite of section 1 and 2 by mid Jan, taking editoral comments in issue-61 into account)
David F to get involved with Action-377 (with Christian L)
ACTION-378 (provide an example for clarified "uncategorized" quality issue type value, see 2) at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt-comments/2012Dec/0022.html and issue-60) with Arle L - DaveL believes this is resolved
Felix indicates that Arle wanted to make a clarification. Still needs to be implemented (the clarification)
Action-379 (provide an update of the mapping "quality issue type values to existing tool values", see 3) at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt-comments/2012Dec/0022.html and issue-60)
This is a non-normative topic that still needs to be updated (by Arle)
<fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/381 now daveL
Action-381: DaveL is willing to take over from Felix. (Come back to "relation between data categories" examples mentioned at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2012Dec/0088.html)
<trackbot> Notes added to ACTION-381 Come back to "relation between data categories" examples mentioned at http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt/2012Dec/0088.html.
Action-385 (Shaun McC) Work on regex for validating regex subset proposal)
On this, Felix had errors using Oxygen. Shaun will look in.
Action-389 (Felix) (Change example on its-tool-annotation). DaveL will take over from Felix.
<fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/389 now daveL
<fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/390
Action-390 (check disambig examples and test suite with regards to presence of annotatorsRef). Tadej says examples are all correct.
omstefanov suggests referring to "disambig" as "text annotation" throughout further MLW-LT WG
DaveL says Tadej should assist editors here
Action-389 - DaveL will take over from Felix
Action-390 remains open, with Tadej
Action-392: Make the edit for issue 76. Does anyone know where Arle is on this. Felix says unclear whether just wording change or change of implementation.
<trackbot> Notes added to ACTION-392 Make the edit for issue 76.
Action-393 (go back to Richard I. about new resolution for issue-79) DaveL
<fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/79
Davel is asking for someone to take over
Felix says just one sentence needs to be changed, email sent to Richard. DaveL agrees to take this over
<fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/394
Action-394 (Add links to examples for issue 80)
<fsasaki> action-394?
<trackbot> ACTION-394 -- Felix Sasaki to add links to examples for issue 80 -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/394
<fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/80
Felix suggests that this needs an editor to do this.
action-395?
<trackbot> ACTION-395 -- Felix Sasaki to check what of lang and xml;lang takes precedence -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/395
<fsasaki> action-395?
<trackbot> ACTION-395 -- Felix Sasaki to check what of lang and xml;lang takes precedence -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/395
we discussed this last week. broad conclusion is that wording is okay. DaveL has followup action to see how this works with HTML vs. XML
Felix will keep this action item.
action-396?
<trackbot> ACTION-396 -- Ankit Srivastava to create example for xml;lang / lang -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/396
<fsasaki> action-396?
<trackbot> ACTION-396 -- Ankit Srivastava to create example for xml;lang / lang -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/396
<fsasaki> close action-396
<trackbot> Closed ACTION-396 Create example for xml;lang / lang.
This action should be closed. Has been done.
action-398?
<trackbot> ACTION-398 -- Felix Sasaki to answer Richard to indicate we'll address this with a rule file in BP -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/398
DaveL is taking this over.
<fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/398 now daveL
action-399?
<trackbot> ACTION-399 -- Felix Sasaki to draft non-normative section clarifying relations to HTML for issue 89 -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/399
<daveL_> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/89
<daveL_> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-multilingualweb-lt-comments/2013Jan/0071.html
Felix explains that relation between its and HTML5 needs to be made more clear.
DaveL asked Christian L whether this could be covered in Introduction (to its 2.0)
Christian L says so far he has not written anything about this. Will do so in next draft, and get persons more knowledgable with HTML5 to review draft text.
Should this action (399) be moved to Christian (to do in his update to Section 1)
<fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/399 now christianL
as no objections action 399 to christianL
Action-400?
<trackbot> ACTION-400 -- Felix Sasaki to edit the specification for Language (MUST missing, etc.) -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/400
DaveL says simple edit ("must" missing, etc.)
To be left pending, as DaveL and Felix cannot find substance of what needs to be done.
action-405?
<trackbot> ACTION-405 -- Felix Sasaki to follow up with Christian on tekom as an option. -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/405
scribe: for a workshop towards the end of the year. Felix will keep open and follow up.
action-408?
<trackbot> ACTION-408 -- Felix Sasaki to ensure that there is no MUST in any notes. -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/408
action-408: to DaveL
<trackbot> Notes added to ACTION-408 Ensure that there is no MUST in any notes..
<fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/408 now daveL
action-412?
<trackbot> ACTION-412 -- Felix Sasaki to let Norbert know that issue-95 is out of scope. -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/412
action-414: to DaveL
<trackbot> Notes added to ACTION-414 Make edit for issue-100 and get back to Norbert..
will follow up with Norbert
action-415?
<trackbot> ACTION-415 -- Felix Sasaki to update unicode reference for issue-104 -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/415
keep with Felix and keep open
action-416?
<trackbot> ACTION-416 -- Karl Fritsche to propose solution to Norbert and then Felix can add to spec. -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/416
Karl said a solution was proposed, sent to Norbert, but no response as of now.
DaveL asks Karl to send a 2nd reminder (to Norbert).
needs to be done as spec change
action-419?
<trackbot> ACTION-419 -- Jirka Kosek to make schematron tests described at http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Ownership_of_rfc2119_statements#Purpose -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/419
<scribe> pending, as Jirka not on cal
action-420?
<trackbot> ACTION-420 -- Felix Sasaki to make edit for issue-111 -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/420
<fsasaki> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/111
<fsasaki> "Implementations MUST NOT combine lists of language ranges from multiple rules or local attributes." This is not needed: overriding of ITS information covers this, hence deleting the sentence.
action420: to Jirka
aCTION-412?
<trackbot> ACTION-412 -- David Lewis to let Norbert know that issue-95 is out of scope. -- due 2013-01-30 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/412
quality-related "must" statements. to be kept open for Arle
action-422?
<trackbot> ACTION-422 -- Arle Lommel to do copy-editing on the spec -- due 2013-04-01 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/422
any volunteers to assist, as Arle busy leading up to Rome
Shaunm volunteers to help
DaveL says, exclude look at Section 1, but rest, incl. annexes needs careful read through.
Shaunm asks about whether changes need to be approved. DaveL indicates editorial changes do not, anything that changes meaning does.
David F points out that this doesn
't need to be pushed too hard, as Arle took this over with deadline in April.
Felix points out that we now need to concentrate on normative changes. Editorial changes can wait.
action-423?
<trackbot> ACTION-423 -- Felix Sasaki to do edits for issue-113 -- due 2013-01-31 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/423
<daveL_> https://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/issues/113
Felix suggests giving this to Yves (not on call).
action-424?
<trackbot> ACTION-424 -- Arle Lommel to fix section 8.9 note: "since the extra training resources does not justify the improvement in the output." -> "since the extra training resources do not justify the improvement in the output." -- due 2013-01-31 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/424
leave with Arle
action-426?
<trackbot> ACTION-426 -- Arle Lommel to create an indicator for poster relations -- due 2013-01-31 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/426
DaveL sent out something on this earlier today.
Wait until reactions.
action428?
were going to have separate page, but now want people to update their links on their use pages
<fsasaki> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/wiki/Use_cases_-_high_level_summary
asks ChristianL to check other links to see if up-to-date (implementations of use cases)
action-429?
<trackbot> ACTION-429 -- Felix Sasaki to check xliff ITS mapping namespace hosting in w3c -- due 2013-01-31 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/429
Felix says not urgent for its spec
can wait
action430?
action-430?
<trackbot> ACTION-430 -- Shaun McCance to draft text explaining importance of Unicode normalization and best practices on ISSUE-67 -- due 2013-02-04 -- OPEN
<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/multilingualweb/lt/track/actions/430
<scribe> ongoing
Christian asks to spend 2 min on high level use cases
Christian recommends that we will benefit if using some sort of template for examples.
Christian says has largely been done, but sees one discrepancy
is referring to 3rd part in each section template
<chriLi> More Information and Implementation Status/Issues
<chriLi> Detailed slides at , Running software, ....
in some sections we have detail slides and running software and source code (not in other?)
should we have guidance that each and every implementor be required to do this?
is this appropriate information to have in a note?
DaveL suggests that one option is NOT to have it in.
ChristianL responds that at this point in time this info is very useful.
But, ChristianL says he sees how some of this info can become "stale" over time and thus sees not have it in formal note
felix suggests leaving a working draft that, before the WG closes later this year that can be updated later
<daveL_> ACTION: dlewis6 to send mail instructing use case writer to include linked to further information and working prototpyes [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2013/02/13-mlw-lt-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-448 - Send mail instructing use case writer to include linked to further information and working prototpyes [on David Lewis - due 2013-02-20].
DaveL asks felix whether there is anything else to take over
<daveL_> olaf made point that flights and hotel in rome are going quickly
felix asks whether to skip Monday call
DaveL suggests that there are issues for Monday. (Tadej and Christian to report.) DaveL will chair again.
Felix indicates that there will be NO merging of datacategories, only levels dropped
Felix thinks that the name changes can also be accepted as non-normative.