<jeanne> trackbot, start meeting

<trackbot> Meeting: Authoring Tool Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference

<trackbot> Date: 01 October 2012

<scribe> Scribe: Jan

1. Voting on whether to publish the "Implementing ATAG 2.0" (NOTE) Editor's Draft as our required heart-beat publication.

JT: As noted, this will give reviewers a sneak peek of changes we have made to the ATAG2 spec
... Taking vote

SN: Agree

CE: Fine

<jeanne> +1 to publishing

Jan: +1

<Greg> Greg says yes

TB: Is it aligned with LC?

JR: Not exactly, it does include changes we have made based on LC comments

TB: Should have note, could be confusing

JT: We can add a not explaining that
... The motion is passed, so we will publish...when can we?

JS: ASPA...probably next week...def before TPAC
... It was important not to muddle LC status of the rec track doc

Resolution: All agreed to publish the Implementing ATAG doc

TB: Extended teleconference on Oct 31?

JT: That was a proposal

JS: Last I remember we didn't agree on something

<Greg> The last time we discussed a f to f was questioning the wisdom of holding one during hurricane season in Boca

JR: I think that text was from last year
... The main thing we need to do work on are the tests

JT: So the main thing we are doing is writing tests for the SCs
... We also need to gather evaluators and reviewers?

JS: Yes, that needs to be done.

JT: Implementors of ATAG2 and then evalutors/reviewers - people to check those implementations.
... Question is what kind of meeting do we need to put together all of this?

JS: I remember from wcag2 testing that there was not a lot of group work...there was a lot of coord and a lot of individual work...
... I could certainly see a meeting to draft and agree on CR exit conditions....but thats it for group work...
... What we really need is a run trhough of testing.

SN: Are you looking for people or implementations?\

JT: People

SN: So we have SCs with tests then we need implementations?

JT: So to clarify, you and I had been talking about gathering some people to do the testing.

JS: Right and then the WG needs to stand behind those testers

JR: Clarigy?

JS: Well, the WG reviews the work that the reviewers do and then they take a vote to say that we think we are done with CR.
... Would take at least 6 weeks after we vote to become a Rec

GP: How many implementations do we really need? Is it ok if we have one tool that meets just one SC... etc.

JS: Its a tricky answer...largely we decide that...but we have to be credible...we have to show implementations in the real world
... I know JB would like to see examples in various different market niches...blogs, CMSs,, LMSs, etc

GP: Our problem is a process issues....need to be able to track whether there is an example for SC...and then show where that is
... Until we get examples for each we cant move forward?

JS: Well, we can declare that certain SCs are "at risk".
... Need at least two examples,
... JR had that spreadsheet showing that

http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2011/implementation_report_10june2011.html

JR: There is a newer one...with more columns....I can update

JT: Great make sure to update the spreadhseet
... And people not working on the testing pls help with that
... Any other issues?

OK, then lets move to the 2 agenda items

3. brief testing approach description (Jan)

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2012JulSep/0041.html

<jeanne> http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2012/ATAG20tests/ATAG2-10April2012PublicWD-Tests-rev20120813

<Greg> I vote for Integration

<Greg> Happy Thanksgivign

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