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HTML Weekly Teleconference

31 May 2012

Agenda

Attendees

Present
Regrets
Chair
paulc
Scribe
glenn

Contents


trackbot, start meeting

<trackbot> Date: 31 May 2012

<scribe> Scribe: glenn

<Yang> hi, I am from Huawei, my name is Sun Yang,first to the CC, nice to meet you all, :)

欢迎 yang, we will be starting in about 15 mins, when the chair joins

<Yang> thanks a lot ,how you type "欢迎"?and the sip phone promote to input the number, is the tel number or conference code?

<Yang> ok, I am in....

<Yang> why appear ??p1? I have used english name in Ekiga....

<Yang> It seems no body there

you asked how i typed 欢迎, i said i used an IME on my Mac

<Yang> smart

我可以写汉字

<Yang> how you do that? you must know how to pronouce it

<Yang> 这么厉害,佩服佩服

我也会说汉语

<Yang> which company are you from?

i represent Cox Communications in this WG

<Yang> nice to meet you glenn, expressive, chinese seems not so difficult to learn

<Yang> there is no screen sharing here, right?

我8年的中文研究, correct, no screen sharing

<Yang> why you study chinese? for fun?

long story ;)

<Yang> it seems not so many people here...

<Yang> right, Yang from Huawei

<paulc> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012AprJun/0024.html

ACTION items due by Thursday, May 31

ACTION-211?

<trackbot> ACTION-211 -- Sam Ruby to ted O'Connor to write up a video-transcript IDref proposal for ISSUE-194 by Fri May 11 -- due 2012-05-26 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/211

ACTION-211: Ted O'Connor to write up a video-transcript IDref proposal for ISSUE-194 by Fri May 11 [Sam Ruby]

<trackbot> ACTION-211 Ted O'Connor to write up a video-transcript IDref proposal for ISSUE-194 by Fri May 11 notes added

paulc: done

<paulc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0158.html

paulc: this ISSUE-194 was discussed at F2F, just sent email on this
... asks ted to respond

<paulc> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-194

paulc: there are two CPs listed
... Zero CP, then transcript attribute proposal

believes latter will be withdrawn

ACTION-213?

<trackbot> ACTION-213 -- Sam Ruby to get JF to deliver a revised ISSUE-194 change proposal by next friday -- due 2012-05-31 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/213

<paulc> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ISSUE-194/TranscriptElement

scribe: a11y is working on new proposal, coming out of F2F
... believes both 211 and 213 are done
... requests ted to respond
... draws people's attention to ...

<paulc> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ISSUE-194/TranscriptElement#Obsoletes_the_following_Change_Proposals:

scribe: above link
... obsoletes older proposal

close ACTION-211

<trackbot> ACTION-211 Ted O'Connor to write up a video-transcript IDref proposal for ISSUE-194 by Fri May 11 closed

close ACTION-213

<trackbot> ACTION-213 Get JF to deliver a revised ISSUE-194 change proposal by next friday closed

janina: not fully settled on current draft, put out CfC on tuesday, objections from one person, thinks can address, work in process
... will wait for objection to be addressed

paulc: will need to figure out how to carry ISSUE-194 forward

ACTION-218?

<trackbot> ACTION-218 -- Paul Cotton to determine day and time for a weekly Media teleconference -- due 2012-05-22 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/218

ACTION-218: Determine day and time for a weekly Media teleconference[Paul Cotton]

<trackbot> ACTION-218 Determine day and time for a weekly Media teleconference notes added

<paulc> Done. See: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0162.html

<Yang> the media meeting is for media element relative dicussion?

paulc: done, and sent out message; 1100AM Eastern Time, starts 12JUNE
... will work with editors to build agenda; paul and mike working on infra support
... thanks mike for heavy lifting

close ACTION-218

<trackbot> ACTION-218 Determine day and time for a weekly Media teleconference closed

scribe: questions?
... survey is now public

<paulc> See http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0162.html for references to proposals and outstanding bugs

yang: asked for info on purpose of media sub-group

paulc: refers to link cited above

ACTION-212?

<trackbot> ACTION-212 -- Michael[tm] Smith to draft revised HTML WG charter for May 31 -- due 2012-05-31 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/212

ACTION-212: Draft revised HTML WG charter for May 31 [Michael[tm] Smith]

<trackbot> ACTION-212 Draft revised HTML WG charter for May 31 notes added

mike: needs to review minutes of F2F
... doesn't plan to share draft until plh looks at it, but plh won't return for another week

ACTION-212: due 2012-06-14

<trackbot> ACTION-212 Draft revised HTML WG charter for May 31 notes added

<paulc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0160.html

ACTION-216?

<trackbot> ACTION-216 -- Michael Cooper to update ISSUE-199 proposal based on Ted's -- due 2012-05-31 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/216

ACTION-216: Update ISSUE-199 proposal based on Ted's [Michael Cooper]

<trackbot> ACTION-216 Update ISSUE-199 proposal based on Ted's notes added

paulc: ted, can you review michael cooper's proposal?

ted: will attempt to make time

janina: thought we could get down to one proposal

ted: needs to review to see if there is any area of disagreement

paulc: would like to assign action to ted to review

ACTION hober to Review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - hober

ACTION edward to Review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - edward

close ACTION-216

<trackbot> ACTION-216 Update ISSUE-199 proposal based on Ted's closed

New Issues This Week

none

Items Closed this Week

none

Items Closed Last Week

none

Items Closing Next Week

ISSUE-203?

<trackbot> ISSUE-203 -- All Media Elements should have the ability to have both short and longer textual descriptions associated to the element -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/203

<paulc> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-203

ISSUE-203: media-descriptions, Write Alternate or Counter-Proposal closes Jun 10

<trackbot> ISSUE-203 All Media Elements should have the ability to have both short and longer textual descriptions associated to the element notes added

New Calls this Week

none

New Surveys this Week

ISSUE-205?

<trackbot> ISSUE-205 -- Define what author guidance and/or methods should be provided to those that wish to create accessible text editors using canvas as a rendering surface. -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/205

ISSUE-205: text-editing-canvas - Straw Poll for Objections

<trackbot> ISSUE-205 Define what author guidance and/or methods should be provided to those that wish to create accessible text editors using canvas as a rendering surface. notes added

paulc: closes end of thursday next week
... june 7
... any comments janina?

janina: nothing to report at this time

<MikeSmith> ACTION: member to hober to Review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-html-wg-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Sorry, bad ACTION syntax

Decisions this Week

none

AOB

31c re-open request review

<MikeSmith> ACTION hober to Review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012May/0094.html

already there...

<MikeSmith> ACTION: hober to Review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199a [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-html-wg-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - hober

paulc: 31c still pending

HTML-A11Y Task Force Consensus on Issue-204

<MikeSmith> trackbot, reload

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0078.html

janina: not at consensus yet

<paulc> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-204

janina: PF has objection, late yesterday

<paulc> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0156.html

janina: re: 2119 normative language on UAs regarding aria markup
... doesn't know if closer to consensus or not

paulc: see link above for the email in question

ted: exchange was useful, getting closer to agreement, but nothing more specific yet

paulc: chairs and TF coordinator met earlier this week, ball is in chair's court re: objections from F2F

<MikeSmith> trackbot, init

Update on Editor Search

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012May/0086.html

paulc: nothing new, plh is away, continuing to work on it

Bulk of W3C's server infrastructure is at MIT CSAIL and will be impacted by a planned network outage on Sat-Sun June 9-10

<MikeSmith> ACTION: hober to review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199a [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-html-wg-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - hober

http://tig.csail.mit.edu/wiki/TIG/2012NetworkOutage

paulc: N.B. outage in servers noted above

Scribe for Next Meeting

paulc: sam will be chairing

if nobody else, i can do so

adjournment

adjourned

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: hober to Review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199a [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-html-wg-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: hober to review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199a [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-html-wg-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: member to hober to Review Michael Cooper's CP for ISSUE-199 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2012/05/31-html-wg-minutes.html#action01]
 
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-wg-announce/2012AprJun/0024.html
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