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26 Jan 2012

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Action items due by Thursday, January 26

paulc: there aren't any
... the one oustanding action item is due next week

New Issues This Week

ISSUE-203?

<trackbot> ISSUE-203 -- All Media Elements should have the ability to have both short and longer textual descriptions associated to the element -- raised

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/203

paulc: there's a call for change proposals out

Items Closed Last Week

ISSUE-180?

<trackbot> ISSUE-180 -- Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/180

paulc: no objections to the CfC

ISSUE-181?

<trackbot> ISSUE-181 -- remove remains of "sidebar" link relation -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/181

paulc: no objections to the CfC

ISSUE-187?

<trackbot> ISSUE-187 -- Document conformance has to be stable over the time -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/187

paulc: we have a change proposals, so there's a call for alternate proposals

ISSUE-190?

<trackbot> ISSUE-190 -- Replace poor coding example for figure with multiple images -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/190

paulc: we have a change proposal

ISSUE-191?

<trackbot> ISSUE-191 -- Replace/complement <ins> and <del> elements by a cleaner wysiwyg-safe attribute-based solution -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/191

paulc: closed on 1/21, we have a change proposal

ISSUE-192?

<trackbot> ISSUE-192 -- title attribute definition does not match reality -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/192

paulc: call for change proposals closed on 1/21

Items Closing This Week

paulc: due to christmas break, there are none

Items Closing Next Week

paulc: there are none

New Calls this week

ISSUE-187?

<trackbot> ISSUE-187 -- Document conformance has to be stable over the time -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/187

paulc: call for alternate change proposals closes on 2/23

<Clarke> +Clarke_Stevens

ISSUE-190?

<trackbot> ISSUE-190 -- Replace poor coding example for figure with multiple images -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/190

paulc: we have a single change proposal; call for counter change proposals closes on 2/23

ISSUE-191?

<trackbot> ISSUE-191 -- Replace/complement <ins> and <del> elements by a cleaner wysiwyg-safe attribute-based solution -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/191

paulc: call for counter change proposals closes on 2/23

ISSUE-192?

<trackbot> ISSUE-192 -- title attribute definition does not match reality -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/192

paulc: call for alternate or counter change proposals closes on 2/23, we have a single proposal
... we encourage wg members to discuss these on public-html
... early filing of counter proposals is encouraged

New Surveys this week

paulc: there aren't any

Decisions this week

ISSUE-180?

<trackbot> ISSUE-180 -- Add "allow-popups" for iframe@sandbox -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/180

ISSUE-181?

<trackbot> ISSUE-181 -- remove remains of "sidebar" link relation -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/181

paulc: both have been closed by amicable consensus because there were no objections
... the related bugs will be so marked & the editor has been asked to make the changes

Task Force Reports

Testing Task Force report

krisk: met last week on the 17th

<krisk> Meeting Notes -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Jan/0004.html

krisk: slow month, but a few more test submissions came in
... jgraham is helping with test reviews
... we meet again next week
... sent a mail to the testing list updating our schedule through the end of july & updated wiki about same

<krisk> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-testsuite/2012Jan/0005.html

paulc: do you have a page that describes the current test suite status?

<krisk> http://w3c-test.org/html/tests/

<krisk> http://w3c-test.org/html/

Accessibility Task Force report

MikeSmith: we met today

<MikeSmith> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Jan/0270.html

<MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/2012/01/26-html-a11y-minutes.html

MikeSmith: we talked about the <meta name=generator> cp steve f. has been working on
... the spec has an exception for image alternative text if there's a <meta name=generator> element in the doc
... CP will advocate for removing this exception
... tentative resolution to endorse this CP
... TF asking steve to fix up the negative effects section
... also talked about revert request laura submitted yesterday
... no resolution
... a11y tf has a number of sub teams
... the bug triage team was quite active at the end of the year
... many bugs have been open for a long time in NEEDSINFO state
... some in NEEDSINFO for a year or more
... we're going to remind folk to supply requested information on these bugs

<MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/2012/01/19-html-a11y-minutes.html

Cynthia: a11y api mapping is coming along, would like feedback from test tf

MikeSmith: we have a sub team working on a implementors guide for a11y platform api mappings

<MikeSmith> http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-api-map/raw-file/tip/Overview.html

<MikeSmith> HTML to Platform Accessibility APIs Implementation Guide: A user agent developer's guide to understanding and implementing accessibility support in HTML

Other Business

ISSUE-177?

<trackbot> ISSUE-177 -- References to Internet-Drafts should be given as "Work in Progress" per RFC 2026. -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/177

krisk: are they looking for someone to write tests for the mapping doc?

MikeSmith: they'd like a conversation with you about this

paulc: ISSUE-177, re-issued call for input from Chairs
... item is still pending, would like more feedback from wg members

http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0132.html

<paulc> DP bug: https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=13263

ISSUE-30?

<trackbot> ISSUE-30 -- Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/30

paulc: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2012Jan/0231.html
... mjs has given current status of this issue on the a11y list
... chairs are continuing to work on finalizing their review of the cp

Revised Timeline and New Bug Priority Policy

paulc: rich and the a11y tf have asked for the schedule to be revisited given upcoming events
... chairs have replied
... chairs would like to get a concrete proposal
... it's hard to get others to respond without there being a concrete proposal on the table
... laura's revert request

<paulc> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0136.html

paulc: the chairs can't convene until early next week due to travel etc.

<paulc> The Chairs will process this request early next week when we can convene a meeting with all three co-chairs present.

Chair and Scribe for next meeting

paulc: it's mjs's turn to chair next week
... volunteers to scribe?

paulc tentatively volunteers

Revised Timeline and New Bug Priority Policy

paulc: summarizes previous conversation to rich
... sam asked for a concrete proposal

<paulc> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2012Jan/0113.html

<paulc> "If you would like us to consider a change, making a concrete proposal "

richardschwerdtfe: my main justification is, if we have counter proposals, will we have time to address them in that 1 month period

paulc: please respond to sam
... would help to paramaterize, e.g. "if we get 10 CPs, we could use N weeks instead of 4 weeks"

richardschwerdtfe: sounds fair

Adjournment

paulc: we are adjourned

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