14:59:35 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/11/17-gld-irc
RRSAgent IRC Bot: logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/11/17-gld-irc ←
14:59:37 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
Trackbot IRC Bot: RRSAgent, make logs world ←
14:59:40 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be EGOV_GLD
Trackbot IRC Bot: Zakim, this will be EGOV_GLD ←
14:59:40 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
Zakim IRC Bot: I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot ←
14:59:42 <trackbot> Meeting: Government Linked Data Working Group Teleconference
14:59:44 <trackbot> Date: 17 November 2011
14:59:46 <gatemezi> Hi all..
Ghislain Atemezing: Hi all.. ←
14:59:52 <sandro> zakim, this is gld
Sandro Hawke: zakim, this is gld ←
14:59:55 <gatemezi> Zakim, wo is here?
Ghislain Atemezing: Zakim, wo is here? ←
14:59:57 <Zakim> ok, sandro; that matches T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, sandro; that matches T&S_GLDWG()10:00AM ←
14:59:58 <Zakim> sorry, gatemezi, I do not understand your question
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, gatemezi, I do not understand your question ←
15:00:12 <PhilA2> zakim, code?
Phil Archer: zakim, code? ←
15:00:13 <sandro> sandro has changed the topic to: Government Linked Data (GLD) WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/ -- Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.11.17
Sandro Hawke: sandro has changed the topic to: Government Linked Data (GLD) WG -- http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/ -- Agenda: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.11.17 ←
15:00:24 <boris> michael the code
Boris Villazón-Terrazas: michael the code ←
15:00:24 <boris> 45394#
Boris Villazón-Terrazas: 45394# ←
15:00:30 <Zakim> the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA2
Zakim IRC Bot: the conference code is 45394 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 sip:zakim@voip.w3.org), PhilA2 ←
15:00:51 <Zakim> +cygri
Zakim IRC Bot: +cygri ←
15:00:53 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller] ←
15:00:55 <mhausenblas> Zakim, I am cygri
Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, I am cygri ←
15:01:05 <mhausenblas> Zakim, BenediktKaempgen is with me
Michael Hausenblas: Zakim, BenediktKaempgen is with me ←
15:01:11 <Zakim> ok, mhausenblas, I now associate you with cygri
Zakim IRC Bot: ok, mhausenblas, I now associate you with cygri ←
15:01:16 <PhilA2> zakim, IPcaller is me
Phil Archer: zakim, IPcaller is me ←
15:01:21 <Zakim> +BenediktKaempgen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BenediktKaempgen; got it ←
15:01:33 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
Zakim IRC Bot: +[IPcaller.a] ←
15:01:35 <Zakim> +PhilA2; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +PhilA2; got it ←
15:01:41 <Zakim> + +1.440.389.aacc
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.440.389.aacc ←
15:01:46 <HadleyBeeman> zakim, aacc is me
Hadley Beeman: zakim, aacc is me ←
15:01:47 <Zakim> +HadleyBeeman; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +HadleyBeeman; got it ←
15:01:53 <Yigal> zakim, IPcaller.a is me
Yigal Arens: zakim, IPcaller.a is me ←
15:01:53 <Zakim> +Yigal; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Yigal; got it ←
15:02:15 <Zakim> + +1.757.604.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.757.604.aadd ←
15:02:15 <PhilA2> scribe: PhilA2
(Scribe set to Phil Archer)
15:02:22 <PhilA2> scribenick: PhilA2
15:02:25 <BernHyland> zakim, who is on the call?
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, who is on the call? ←
15:02:45 <Zakim> On the phone I see David, +1.202.691.aaaa, +49.133.6.aabb, sandro, cygri, PhilA2, Yigal, HadleyBeeman, +1.757.604.aadd
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see David, +1.202.691.aaaa, +49.133.6.aabb, sandro, cygri, PhilA2, Yigal, HadleyBeeman, +1.757.604.aadd ←
15:02:48 <Zakim> cygri has cygri, BenediktKaempgen
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has cygri, BenediktKaempgen ←
15:02:59 <GeraldSteeman> Zakim, aadd is me.
Gerald Steeman: Zakim, aadd is me. ←
15:02:59 <Zakim> +GeraldSteeman; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +GeraldSteeman; got it ←
15:03:02 <Zakim> +Cory
Zakim IRC Bot: +Cory ←
15:03:15 <Zakim> + +1.919.541.aaee
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.919.541.aaee ←
15:03:16 <BernHyland> David is bhyland
Bernadette Hyland: David is bhyland ←
15:03:28 <BernHyland> bhyland is BernHyland
Bernadette Hyland: bhyland is BernHyland ←
15:03:46 <PhilA2> zakim, David is really BernHyland
zakim, David is really BernHyland ←
15:03:47 <Zakim> +BernHyland; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BernHyland; got it ←
15:03:59 <PhilA2> chair: BernHyland
15:04:30 <Zakim> +??P8
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P8 ←
15:05:02 <PhilA2> zakim, who is here?
zakim, who is here? ←
15:05:02 <Zakim> On the phone I see BernHyland, +1.202.691.aaaa, +49.133.6.aabb, sandro, cygri, PhilA2, Yigal, HadleyBeeman, GeraldSteeman, Cory, +1.919.541.aaee, ??P8
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see BernHyland, +1.202.691.aaaa, +49.133.6.aabb, sandro, cygri, PhilA2, Yigal, HadleyBeeman, GeraldSteeman, Cory, +1.919.541.aaee, ??P8 ←
15:05:05 <Zakim> cygri has cygri, BenediktKaempgen
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has cygri, BenediktKaempgen ←
15:05:08 <Zakim> On IRC I see rreck, John, Cory, LyleBurgoon, BartvanLeeuwen, Zakim, RRSAgent, PhilA2, GeraldSteeman, Yigal, boris, DanG, HadleyBeeman, mhausenblas, MacTed, BenediktKaempgen,
Zakim IRC Bot: On IRC I see rreck, John, Cory, LyleBurgoon, BartvanLeeuwen, Zakim, RRSAgent, PhilA2, GeraldSteeman, Yigal, boris, DanG, HadleyBeeman, mhausenblas, MacTed, BenediktKaempgen, ←
15:05:11 <Zakim> ... gatemezi, BernHyland, trackbot, sandro
Zakim IRC Bot: ... gatemezi, BernHyland, trackbot, sandro ←
15:05:42 <PhilA2> zakim, aaaa is DanG
zakim, aaaa is DanG ←
15:05:42 <Zakim> +DanG; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +DanG; got it ←
15:05:44 <gatemezi> Zakim, Ghislain is really gatemezi
Ghislain Atemezing: Zakim, Ghislain is really gatemezi ←
15:05:44 <Zakim> sorry, gatemezi, I do not recognize a party named 'Ghislain'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, gatemezi, I do not recognize a party named 'Ghislain' ←
15:05:46 <BernHyland> zakim, aaaa is DanG
Bernadette Hyland: zakim, aaaa is DanG ←
15:05:46 <Zakim> sorry, BernHyland, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, BernHyland, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa' ←
15:06:16 <BenediktKaempgen> * benedikt is fine also, thanks boris
Benedikt Kaempgen: * benedikt is fine also, thanks boris ←
15:06:37 <PhilA2> zakim, aaaa is DanG
zakim, aaaa is DanG ←
15:06:37 <Zakim> sorry, PhilA2, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa'
Zakim IRC Bot: sorry, PhilA2, I do not recognize a party named 'aaaa' ←
15:06:46 <PhilA2> zakim, who is on the phone?
zakim, who is on the phone? ←
15:06:47 <Zakim> On the phone I see BernHyland, DanG, +49.133.6.aabb, sandro, cygri, PhilA2, Yigal, HadleyBeeman, GeraldSteeman, Cory, +1.919.541.aaee, ??P8
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see BernHyland, DanG, +49.133.6.aabb, sandro, cygri, PhilA2, Yigal, HadleyBeeman, GeraldSteeman, Cory, +1.919.541.aaee, ??P8 ←
15:06:49 <Zakim> cygri has cygri, BenediktKaempgen
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has cygri, BenediktKaempgen ←
15:06:55 <Zakim> +??P9
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P9 ←
15:07:29 <BartvanLeeuwen> Zakim, ??p9 is me
Bart van Leeuwen: Zakim, ??p9 is me ←
15:07:29 <Zakim> +BartvanLeeuwen; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +BartvanLeeuwen; got it ←
15:07:40 <LyleBurgoon> +1.919.541.aaee is LyleBurgoon
Lyle Burgoon: +1.919.541.aaee is LyleBurgoon ←
15:08:33 <cgueret_home> hello!
Christophe Gueret: hello! ←
15:08:44 <PhilA2> zakim, who is on the phone?
zakim, who is on the phone? ←
15:08:44 <Zakim> On the phone I see BernHyland, DanG, +49.133.6.aabb, sandro, cygri, PhilA2, Yigal, HadleyBeeman, GeraldSteeman, Cory, +1.919.541.aaee, ??P8, BartvanLeeuwen
Zakim IRC Bot: On the phone I see BernHyland, DanG, +49.133.6.aabb, sandro, cygri, PhilA2, Yigal, HadleyBeeman, GeraldSteeman, Cory, +1.919.541.aaee, ??P8, BartvanLeeuwen ←
15:08:48 <Zakim> cygri has cygri, BenediktKaempgen
Zakim IRC Bot: cygri has cygri, BenediktKaempgen ←
15:09:37 <Zakim> +??P11
Zakim IRC Bot: +??P11 ←
15:09:52 <PhilA2> Topic: Scribing
15:09:52 <Zakim> + +91.11.41.29.aaff
Zakim IRC Bot: + +91.11.41.29.aaff ←
15:10:07 <PhilA2> BernHyland: Asks for people to take scribing seriously and offer to do it :-)
Bernadette Hyland: Asks for people to take scribing seriously and offer to do it :-) ←
15:10:38 <PhilA2> zakim, aaff is Biplav
zakim, aaff is Biplav ←
15:10:38 <Zakim> +Biplav; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +Biplav; got it ←
15:11:09 <PhilA2> BernHyland: Wants to record regrets too
Bernadette Hyland: Wants to record regrets too ←
15:11:22 <PhilA2> ... so that should be added to he checklist for each meeting
... so that should be added to he checklist for each meeting ←
15:11:28 <PhilA2> Topic: Last week's minutes
15:11:55 <Yigal> Today's agenda is http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.11.17
Yigal Arens: Today's agenda is http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Meetings:Telecon2011.11.17 ←
15:11:57 <PhilA2> minutes: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-gld-wg/2011Nov/0018.html
15:12:05 <PhilA2> s/minutes/agenda/
15:12:05 <BenediktKaempgen> +1 to minutes
Benedikt Kaempgen: +1 to minutes ←
15:12:10 <HadleyBeeman> Cheers, Yigal and PhilA2! Much appreciated
Hadley Beeman: Cheers, Yigal and PhilA2! Much appreciated ←
15:12:18 <boris> last telecon minutes http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-11-10
Boris Villazón-Terrazas: last telecon minutes http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/meeting/2011-11-10 ←
15:12:26 <Yigal> +1 minutes
Yigal Arens: +1 minutes ←
15:12:50 <PhilA2> resolution: minutes accepted
RESOLVED: minutes accepted ←
15:13:04 <PhilA2> Topic: Current Action Items
15:13:16 <PhilA2> BernHyland: Please don't be too shy of taking action items
Bernadette Hyland: Please don't be too shy of taking action items ←
15:13:22 <PhilA2> ... everyone is busy
... everyone is busy ←
15:13:23 <LyleBurgoon> zakim, aaee is LyleBurgoon
Lyle Burgoon: zakim, aaee is LyleBurgoon ←
15:13:23 <Zakim> +LyleBurgoon; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +LyleBurgoon; got it ←
15:13:30 <PhilA2> ... but we need to show progress
... but we need to show progress ←
15:13:42 <PhilA2> action-8 not discussed today as needs George
ACTION-8 not discussed today as needs George ←
15:14:11 <boris> ACTION 8?
Boris Villazón-Terrazas: ACTION-8? ←
15:14:11 <trackbot> Sorry, bad ACTION syntax
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, bad ACTION syntax ←
15:14:31 <PhilA2> Can't handle action 9 as John E not here
Can't handle ACTION-9 as John E not here ←
15:15:30 <PhilA2> action-11 pending
15:15:52 <PhilA2> action-13 pending http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/13
ACTION-13 pending http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/13 ←
15:16:13 <PhilA2> DanG:We're working on a content model, registration model and catalogue model ??
Dan Gillman: We're working on a content model, registration model and catalogue model ?? ←
15:16:19 <PhilA2> ... getting close to consensus
... getting close to consensus ←
15:16:36 <PhilA2> BernHyland: Do you want comments from this group?
Bernadette Hyland: Do you want comments from this group? ←
15:16:54 <PhilA2> DanG: Yes, but I have to get it out of the committee by Thursday
Dan Gillman: Yes, but I have to get it out of the committee by Thursday ←
15:17:09 <BernHyland> @PhilA2, we're going thru actions now & will hit each of the main deliverables categories next.
Bernadette Hyland: @PhilA2, we're going thru actions now & will hit each of the main deliverables categories next. ←
15:17:15 <PhilA2> ... work is under Dev, need to make sure with them that it's OK with them to put out to wider review
... work is under Dev, need to make sure with them that it's OK with them to put out to wider review ←
15:17:40 <PhilA2> PhilA2: Notes that's the same situation I'm in with EU stuff
Phil Archer: Notes that's the same situation I'm in with EU stuff ←
15:17:51 <PhilA2> BernHyland: The sooner you can bring it to us the more we can help
Bernadette Hyland: The sooner you can bring it to us the more we can help ←
15:17:55 <Cory> +1 on wider review
Cory Casanave: +1 on wider review ←
15:18:02 <PhilA2> DanG: I'll see if I can post it in the nexct couple of days
Dan Gillman: I'll see if I can post it in the nexct couple of days ←
15:18:13 <PhilA2> action-15 pending http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/15
ACTION-15 pending http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/track/actions/15 ←
15:18:24 <PhilA2> BernHyland: George nad I have discussed it. We took a poll of 27 people
Bernadette Hyland: George nad I have discussed it. We took a poll of 27 people ←
15:18:44 <PhilA2> ... lots of people can make it to the f2f
... lots of people can make it to the f2f ←
15:19:02 <PhilA2> ... lots of people said that they could travel to Galway but yeses came with caveats
... lots of people said that they could travel to Galway but yeses came with caveats ←
15:19:17 <PhilA2> ... 2ndary location. Most people firmly said yes (of those that said yes)
... 2ndary location. Most people firmly said yes (of those that said yes) ←
15:19:24 <PhilA2> ... boils down to a 50-50 split
... boils down to a 50-50 split ←
15:19:38 <PhilA2> .. I cannot make it to Galway which I'd v much like to
.. I cannot make it to Galway which I'd v much like to ←
15:20:02 <PhilA2> ... would like to honour US/EU split but can't at the moment. George also not sure that he can travel
... would like to honour US/EU split but can't at the moment. George also not sure that he can travel ←
15:20:17 <PhilA2> ... puts us in an awkward situation sadly
... puts us in an awkward situation sadly ←
15:20:25 <PhilA2> Sandro does have permission to travel
Sandro does have permission to travel ←
15:20:35 <Cory> Lets decide we will do it in both locations
Cory Casanave: Lets decide we will do it in both locations ←
15:20:39 <sandro> survey results: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/47663/f2f2_location/results
Sandro Hawke: survey results: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/47663/f2f2_location/results ←
15:20:44 <PhilA2> BernHyland: What are people's feelings of having it in 2 locations?
Bernadette Hyland: What are people's feelings of having it in 2 locations? ←
15:20:54 <Cory> I think screen sharing is more important than video
Cory Casanave: I think screen sharing is more important than video ←
15:20:58 <PhilA2> BernHyland: Note that there is no video conferenceing available at DERI
Bernadette Hyland: Note that there is no video conferenceing available at DERI ←
15:21:16 <PhilA2> BernHyland: Going to be via dinky cameras on people's laptops
Bernadette Hyland: Going to be via dinky cameras on people's laptops ←
15:21:34 <PhilA2> sandro: It may not be that bad. I've had reasonable luck using a separate camera
Sandro Hawke: It may not be that bad. I've had reasonable luck using a separate camera ←
15:21:47 <BernHyland> q?
Bernadette Hyland: q? ←
15:21:48 <PhilA2> BernHyland: I'm really disappointed but it seems unavoidable
Bernadette Hyland: I'm really disappointed but it seems unavoidable ←
15:21:50 <Cory> W3c could charter a jet for us : )
Cory Casanave: W3c could charter a jet for us : ) ←
15:22:00 <BartvanLeeuwen> :)
Bart van Leeuwen: :) ←
15:22:06 <HadleyBeeman> I am a bit concerned that the time zones will be hard if we are in two separate places.
Hadley Beeman: I am a bit concerned that the time zones will be hard if we are in two separate places. ←
15:22:29 <Yigal> Dagstuhl?
Yigal Arens: Dagstuhl? ←
15:22:43 <DanG> yes
Dan Gillman: yes ←
15:22:50 <PhilA2> BernHyland: +1 to Hadley
Bernadette Hyland: +1 to Hadley ←
15:23:00 <PhilA2> ... RDF WG started at 7am in Boston
... RDF WG started at 7am in Boston ←
15:23:16 <Biplav> Since the economic situation is similar for other WGs, how are they handling it? I am wondering if this will be typical for future meetings.
Biplav Srivastava: Since the economic situation is similar for other WGs, how are they handling it? I am wondering if this will be typical for future meetings. ←
15:23:46 <PhilA2> sandro: the agenda for the RDF WG we started at 07:00 ending at 15:00. Then we ended up talking among oursleves for a couple of hours befiore early dinner
Sandro Hawke: the agenda for the RDF WG we started at 07:00 ending at 15:00. Then we ended up talking among oursleves for a couple of hours befiore early dinner ←
15:23:57 <PhilA2> q+
q+ ←
15:24:01 <Biplav> Dagstuhl is a very good idea
Biplav Srivastava: Dagstuhl is a very good idea ←
15:24:11 <PhilA2> BernHyland: I can get to a venue for a 07:00 start
Bernadette Hyland: I can get to a venue for a 07:00 start ←
15:24:39 <PhilA2> ??: it becomes a US breakout session in the afertnoon
Cory Casanave: it becomes a US breakout session in the afertnoon ←
15:24:47 <sandro> s/??/cory/
15:24:48 <PhilA2> q-
q- ←
15:25:04 <Yigal> Yes.
Yigal Arens: Yes. ←
15:25:10 <PhilA2> BernHyland: Dan suggested that his org can provide a location in DC
Bernadette Hyland: Dan suggested that his org can provide a location in DC ←
15:25:15 <GeraldSteeman> NSF
Gerald Steeman: NSF ←
15:25:29 <GeraldSteeman> NITR?
Gerald Steeman: NITR? ←
15:25:37 <PhilA2> ... and {??} can provide one for June
... and {??} can provide one for June ←
15:25:45 <sandro> NITRD
Sandro Hawke: NITRD ←
15:25:48 <PhilA2> {??} is NITRD
{??} is NITRD ←
15:26:07 <GeraldSteeman> Dan at BLS?
Gerald Steeman: Dan at BLS? ←
15:26:07 <PhilA2> close action-15
15:26:08 <trackbot> ACTION-15 Work on co-location tools and logistics closed
Trackbot IRC Bot: ACTION-15 Work on co-location tools and logistics closed ←
15:26:10 <sandro> F2F1 was at http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/F2F1
Sandro Hawke: F2F1 was at http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/F2F1 ←
15:26:28 <PhilA2> BernHyland: will work on dual location for 25-26 Jan 2012
Bernadette Hyland: will work on dual location for 25-26 Jan 2012 ←
15:26:47 <PhilA2> BernHyland: George and I will work with DanG
Bernadette Hyland: George and I will work with DanG ←
15:27:07 <PhilA2> DanG: I need to know how many people to expect so I can get the right sized room, internet connections etc
Dan Gillman: I need to know how many people to expect so I can get the right sized room, internet connections etc ←
15:27:12 <BernHyland> Yes, Dan is at Bureau of Labor Statistics in DC, across from Union Station, easy access from Metro
Bernadette Hyland: Yes, Dan is at Bureau of Labor Statistics in DC, across from Union Station, easy access from Metro ←
15:27:25 <PhilA2> DanG: we're right across the street from Union Station
Dan Gillman: we're right across the street from Union Station ←
15:27:32 <PhilA2> sandro: I'd plan for 15
Sandro Hawke: I'd plan for 15 ←
15:27:36 <Yigal> If we're in DC I'll go there instead of Galway.
Yigal Arens: If we're in DC I'll go there instead of Galway. ←
15:27:39 <PhilA2> DanG: 20 isn't a problem
Dan Gillman: 20 isn't a problem ←
15:28:05 <PhilA2> Proposed Resolution: That we will hold teh January face to face meeting in 2 locations
Proposed Resolution: That we will hold teh January face to face meeting in 2 locations ←
15:28:06 <HadleyBeeman> +1 to not seeing an alternative
Hadley Beeman: +1 to not seeing an alternative ←
15:28:10 <mhausenblas> +1
Michael Hausenblas: +1 ←
15:28:25 <PhilA2> Resolution: That we will hold the January face to face meeting in 2 locations
RESOLVED: That we will hold the January face to face meeting in 2 locations ←
15:28:45 <PhilA2> mhausenblas: I see no alternative
Michael Hausenblas: I see no alternative ←
15:28:45 <sandro> +1 yeah I'm not happy about it, but I don't see an alternative. let's make it work. :-)
Sandro Hawke: +1 yeah I'm not happy about it, but I don't see an alternative. let's make it work. :-) ←
15:29:10 <PhilA2> BernHyland: To be honest, we'll have a lot to look at on a screen anyway so I'm not too depressed about it in terms of it working
Bernadette Hyland: To be honest, we'll have a lot to look at on a screen anyway so I'm not too depressed about it in terms of it working ←
15:29:27 <PhilA2> ... I don't think we have the same level of difficulty that the RDF WG had
... I don't think we have the same level of difficulty that the RDF WG had ←
15:29:39 <PhilA2> q+ to ask about microphones etc.
q+ to ask about microphones etc. ←
15:30:28 <PhilA2> PhilA2: Can you reflect on the experience of the TPAC meeting
Phil Archer: Can you reflect on the experience of the TPAC meeting ←
15:30:44 <PhilA2> BernHyland: For one thing we in the GLD will all know each other better
Bernadette Hyland: For one thing we in the GLD will all know each other better ←
15:30:58 <PhilA2> ... since we're better acquainted, we should be more productive
... since we're better acquainted, we should be more productive ←
15:31:10 <PhilA2> ... many of our working relationships transcend the GLD
... many of our working relationships transcend the GLD ←
15:31:33 <PhilA2> ... hopefully if people have signed up then they're well focussed on the work
... hopefully if people have signed up then they're well focussed on the work ←
15:32:43 <BernHyland> PhilA2: Suggested that having skype calls if we only have one polycom … to be determined when we know more about the site.
Phil Archer: Suggested that having skype calls if we only have one polycom … to be determined when we know more about the site. [ Scribe Assist by Bernadette Hyland ] ←
15:33:17 <PhilA2> PhilA2: Both locations can offer multiple microphones on their Polycoms
Phil Archer: Both locations can offer multiple microphones on their Polycoms ←
15:33:37 <PhilA2> BernHyland: I think community building is important, shared meals etc.
Bernadette Hyland: I think community building is important, shared meals etc. ←
15:33:56 <PhilA2> ... I'm keen to have the next f2f in May or June in DERI
... I'm keen to have the next f2f in May or June in DERI ←
15:34:08 <PhilA2> ... travel budgets should be a little easier then we hope
... travel budgets should be a little easier then we hope ←
15:34:29 <PhilA2> sandro: The other logistics thing there is to plan to arrange the tables so that they sit closest to the microphones
Sandro Hawke: The other logistics thing there is to plan to arrange the tables so that they sit closest to the microphones ←
15:34:37 <gatemezi> +1 to building a strong gld community
Ghislain Atemezing: +1 to building a strong gld community ←
15:34:48 <PhilA2> sandro: plan tables for audio
Sandro Hawke: plan tables for audio ←
15:35:01 <PhilA2> Topic: Task Force Updates
15:35:09 <BernHyland> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Community_Directory_Discussion_Summary
Bernadette Hyland: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Community_Directory_Discussion_Summary ←
15:35:13 <PhilA2> BernHyland: Start with the community directory
Bernadette Hyland: Start with the community directory ←
15:35:24 <BernHyland> Beta version available http://dir.w3.org/
Bernadette Hyland: Beta version available http://dir.w3.org/ ←
15:35:29 <PhilA2> ... we're in a beta phase with the dir now. We have the beta available now
... we're in a beta phase with the dir now. We have the beta available now ←
15:36:19 <PhilA2> BernHyland: this went up about 2 weeks ago.
Bernadette Hyland: this went up about 2 weeks ago. ←
15:36:30 <PhilA2> ... people have been sending requests for login
... people have been sending requests for login ←
15:36:33 <Zakim> + +1.218.296.aagg
Zakim IRC Bot: + +1.218.296.aagg ←
15:36:42 <rreck> zakim, +1.218.296.aagg is me
Ronald Reck: zakim, +1.218.296.aagg is me ←
15:36:42 <Zakim> +rreck; got it
Zakim IRC Bot: +rreck; got it ←
15:36:43 <PhilA2> ... we have 35 organisations that have filled out the details
... we have 35 organisations that have filled out the details ←
15:36:47 <rreck> i am muted
Ronald Reck: i am muted ←
15:36:57 <rreck> zakim, mute me
Ronald Reck: zakim, mute me ←
15:36:57 <Zakim> rreck should now be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: rreck should now be muted ←
15:37:08 <PhilA2> BernHyland: getting some nice feedback
Bernadette Hyland: getting some nice feedback ←
15:37:37 <PhilA2> ... Gannon mailed a lot of people and made noise in public
... Gannon mailed a lot of people and made noise in public ←
15:38:00 <PhilA2> ... can we keep it to the GLD WG, not others just yet (like LOD and eGov)
... can we keep it to the GLD WG, not others just yet (like LOD and eGov) ←
15:38:23 <PhilA2> .. most feedback has been +ve
.. most feedback has been +ve ←
15:38:30 <PhilA2> ... any thoughts
... any thoughts ←
15:38:32 <mhausenblas> looks great, congrats!
Michael Hausenblas: looks great, congrats! ←
15:39:07 <PhilA2> BernHyland: if your company isn't represented on the directory, please let me know (get a login and add yourself)
Bernadette Hyland: if your company isn't represented on the directory, please let me know (get a login and add yourself) ←
15:39:15 <PhilA2> Topic: best practices
15:39:19 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Best_Practices_Discussion_Summary
Michael Hausenblas: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/Best_Practices_Discussion_Summary ←
15:39:32 <PhilA2> mhausenblas: This wiki page is where people are making contributions
Michael Hausenblas: This wiki page is where people are making contributions ←
15:39:41 <PhilA2> ... I'm working to get stuff from the wiki
... I'm working to get stuff from the wiki ←
15:39:50 <mhausenblas> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/file/bcb72f87b5cc/bp
Michael Hausenblas: https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/gld/file/bcb72f87b5cc/bp ←
15:40:15 <PhilA2> mhausenblas: if you look at the wiki page you see a lot of people there but not all the pages are at the same stage
Michael Hausenblas: if you look at the wiki page you see a lot of people there but not all the pages are at the same stage ←
15:40:59 <PhilA2> boris: I was working on the BP for vocab selection and URI construction
Boris Villazón-Terrazas: I was working on the BP for vocab selection and URI construction ←
15:41:14 <boris> http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/GLD_Life_cycle
Boris Villazón-Terrazas: http://www.w3.org/2011/gld/wiki/GLD_Life_cycle ←
15:41:19 <PhilA2> ... I wanted to proposed a Gov LD life cycle based on what Bern and Michael have said
... I wanted to proposed a Gov LD life cycle based on what Bern and Michael have said ←
15:41:31 <PhilA2> ... and from UPN
... and from UPN ←
15:41:36 <PhilA2> mhausenblas: taht makes a lot of sense
Michael Hausenblas: taht makes a lot of sense ←
15:41:37 <gatemezi> I suggest to have a small meeting for this task
Ghislain Atemezing: I suggest to have a small meeting for this task ←
15:42:03 <PhilA2> mhausenblas: I don't think we need to consolidate these life cycles . It's OK to say here are 3 diff approaches and you can see what works for you
Michael Hausenblas: I don't think we need to consolidate these life cycles . It's OK to say here are 3 diff approaches and you can see what works for you ←
15:42:18 <PhilA2> ... I;m more concerned with procurement and stability
... I'm more concerned with procurement and stability ←
15:42:27 <PhilA2> s/I;m/I'm/
15:42:43 <PhilA2> mhausenblas: do we keep it or drop it. If keeping it, it needs to be done
Michael Hausenblas: do we keep it or drop it. If keeping it, it needs to be done ←
15:43:05 <PhilA2> BernHyland: John Sheridan and M Pendleton offered to work on this but he needs to get past the blank page
Bernadette Hyland: John Sheridan and M Pendleton offered to work on this but he needs to get past the blank page ←
15:43:32 <PhilA2> action: BernHyland to contact Mike Pendleton and John Sheridan to help them start on the procurement section of the BP
ACTION: BernHyland to contact Mike Pendleton and John Sheridan to help them start on the procurement section of the BP ←
15:43:32 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - BernHyland
Trackbot IRC Bot: Sorry, couldn't find user - BernHyland ←
15:43:45 <PhilA2> action: Bernadette Hyland to contact Mike Pendleton and John Sheridan to help them start on the procurement section of the BP
ACTION: Bernadette Hyland to contact Mike Pendleton and John Sheridan to help them start on the procurement section of the BP ←
15:43:46 <trackbot> Created ACTION-21 - Hyland to contact Mike Pendleton and John Sheridan to help them start on the procurement section of the BP [on Bernadette Hyland - due 2011-11-24].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-21 - Hyland to contact Mike Pendleton and John Sheridan to help them start on the procurement section of the BP [on Bernadette Hyland - due 2011-11-24]. ←
15:44:00 <rreck> i might have gone to that had i known
Ronald Reck: i might have gone to that had i known ←
15:44:32 <PhilA2> BernHyland: if there's someone in your professional network who can contribute then please have the discussion and bring that to the this group
Bernadette Hyland: if there's someone in your professional network who can contribute then please have the discussion and bring that to the this group ←
15:45:01 <PhilA2> ... the procurement process is very important. Often more important than the how to do it
... the procurement process is very important. Often more important than the how to do it ←
15:45:20 <PhilA2> mhausenblas: Much appreciated. I was hoping you'd offer to do that BernHyland
Michael Hausenblas: Much appreciated. I was hoping you'd offer to do that BernHyland ←
15:45:39 <PhilA2> mhausenblas: I don't care what format it's in, I can add it to the wiki
Michael Hausenblas: I don't care what format it's in, I can add it to the wiki ←
15:45:55 <PhilA2> BernHyland: It's always easier to look at something and commetn than to start from scratch
Bernadette Hyland: It's always easier to look at something and commetn than to start from scratch ←
15:46:25 <PhilA2> BernHyland: I've got some experience now from work in the EPA on what the requirements might be
Bernadette Hyland: I've got some experience now from work in the EPA on what the requirements might be ←
15:46:39 <PhilA2> ... lots of governments copy from each other
... lots of governments copy from each other ←
15:46:57 <PhilA2> mhausenblas: versioning... a couple of people signed up for that but I don't see a lot there
Michael Hausenblas: versioning... a couple of people signed up for that but I don't see a lot there ←
15:47:08 <rreck> zakim, unmute me
Ronald Reck: zakim, unmute me ←
15:47:08 <Zakim> rreck should no longer be muted
Zakim IRC Bot: rreck should no longer be muted ←
15:47:09 <PhilA2> BernHyland: rreck do you have anything to add on this?
Bernadette Hyland: rreck do you have anything to add on this? ←
15:47:35 <PhilA2> rreck: I was talking to Anne about this yesterday. Very rough and not recordable now
Ronald Reck: I was talking to Anne about this yesterday. Very rough and not recordable now ←
15:48:03 <PhilA2> q+ to make a comment on and make a request stability issue
q+ to make a comment on and make a request stability issue ←
15:48:31 <PhilA2> action Ronald Reck to make a contribution to section 2.5 on stability
action Ronald Reck to make a contribution to section 2.5 on stability ←
15:48:32 <trackbot> Created ACTION-22 - Reck to make a contribution to section 2.5 on stability [on Ronald Reck - due 2011-11-24].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-22 - Reck to make a contribution to section 2.5 on stability [on Ronald Reck - due 2011-11-24]. ←
15:49:50 <PhilA2> action Bernadette Hyland to contact Top Quadrant (David Price)
action Bernadette Hyland to contact Top Quadrant (David Price) ←
15:49:51 <trackbot> Created ACTION-23 - Hyland to contact Top Quadrant (David Price) [on Bernadette Hyland - due 2011-11-24].
Trackbot IRC Bot: Created ACTION-23 - Hyland to contact Top Quadrant (David Price) [on Bernadette Hyland - due 2011-11-24]. ←
15:50:08 <rreck> I can ask Bob if you want.
Ronald Reck: I can ask Bob if you want. ←
15:50:39 <PhilA2> BernHyland: Remember that readership will not be experts in LD!
Bernadette Hyland: Remember that readership will not be experts in LD! ←
15:51:00 <PhilA2> ... need to describe more, explain more. Explain what all these tools are and who they're run by (and perhaps why)
... need to describe more, explain more. Explain what all these tools are and who they're run by (and perhaps why) ←
15:51:26 <PhilA2> mhausenblas: On the LD Cookbook - maybe we can resolve issue 1 as it might become part of the directory?
Michael Hausenblas: On the LD Cookbook - maybe we can resolve ISSUE-1 as it might become part of the directory? ←
15:51:48 <PhilA2> BernHyland: We wanted to keep it as a wiki that could evolve rather than it be a (static) Rec
Bernadette Hyland: We wanted to keep it as a wiki that could evolve rather than it be a (static) Rec ←
15:52:36 <PhilA2> BernHyland: One piece of data that the directory could have is events. Lots of people asking for that. But advice from the cookbook doesn't feel right in the directory
Bernadette Hyland: One piece of data that the directory could have is events. Lots of people asking for that. But advice from the cookbook doesn't feel right in the directory ←
15:52:50 <PhilA2> ... but let's discuss it on the wiki
... but let's discuss it on the wiki ←
15:53:12 <PhilA2> mhausenblas: I have to run to the next meeting. Thanks. I will solve all world problems before we meet again
Michael Hausenblas: I have to run to the next meeting. Thanks. I will solve all world problems before we meet again ←
15:53:27 <mhausenblas> I have to leave now, sorry - see you in two weeks time
Michael Hausenblas: I have to leave now, sorry - see you in two weeks time ←
15:53:51 <PhilA2> http://www.semic.eu/semic/view/documents/2011-11-15_ADMS_draft_specification.pdf
http://www.semic.eu/semic/view/documents/2011-11-15_ADMS_draft_specification.pdf ←
15:57:09 <Zakim> - +49.133.6.aabb
Zakim IRC Bot: - +49.133.6.aabb ←
15:57:32 <PhilA2> PhilA2: described situation with ADMS and work in the SEMIC.EU project generally
Phil Archer: described situation with ADMS and work in the SEMIC.EU project generally ←
15:57:54 <PhilA2> ... Some people wary of putting things in the public domain for a variety of reasons
... Some people wary of putting things in the public domain for a variety of reasons ←
15:58:03 <PhilA2> Core: There's a UML profile of ?? in progress
Cory Casanave: There's a UML profile of ?? in progress ←
15:58:09 <PhilA2> s/Core/Cory/
15:58:31 <PhilA2> Cory: one of the things I'd like to explore is an RDRF mapping of that and an XML schema form
Cory Casanave: one of the things I'd like to explore is an RDF mapping of that and an XML schema form ←
15:58:41 <PhilA2> s/RDRF/RDF/
15:58:42 <Cory> http://tinyurl.com/8xqy7mx
Cory Casanave: http://tinyurl.com/8xqy7mx ←
15:58:52 <BernHyland> @PhilA2, @Cory please update the general vocab discussion wiki page with what you described today.
Bernadette Hyland: @PhilA2, @Cory please update the general vocab discussion wiki page with what you described today. ←
15:58:57 <Cory> This URL is the initial NEIM-UML submission: http://tinyurl.com/8xqy7mx
Cory Casanave: This URL is the initial NEIM-UML submission: http://tinyurl.com/8xqy7mx ←
16:00:02 <PhilA2> Cory: idea here is to get a UML representation here and then see if there's interest in supporting an RDF mapping in that
Cory Casanave: idea here is to get a UML representation here and then see if there's interest in supporting an RDF mapping in that ←
16:00:26 <PhilA2> Cory: there's so much domain work i this area. These could be used as reference for multiple vocabs
Cory Casanave: there's so much domain work i this area. These could be used as reference for multiple vocabs ←
16:01:10 <PhilA2> BernHyland: This is a big job. Volunteers won't be able to do this since iut isn't readily broken up into chunks
Bernadette Hyland: This is a big job. Volunteers won't be able to do this since iut isn't readily broken up into chunks ←
16:01:31 <PhilA2> BernHyland: This is a separate conversation, but this isn't a small project nad how do we get funding for it
Bernadette Hyland: This is a separate conversation, but this isn't a small project nad how do we get funding for it ←
16:02:18 <PhilA2> Cory: true, But the mapping to XML is understood and then the RDF on top of that is no more than months work, not years
Cory Casanave: true, But the mapping to XML is understood and then the RDF on top of that is no more than months work, not years ←
16:02:32 <HadleyBeeman> q+
Hadley Beeman: q+ ←
16:02:41 <PhilA2> Cory: I guess the question is how we handle vocabs that are not in RDF nad how we might handle those
Cory Casanave: I guess the question is how we handle vocabs that are not in RDF nad how we might handle those ←
16:02:47 <PhilA2> ack HadleyBeeman
ack HadleyBeeman ←
16:02:52 <PhilA2> q-
q- ←
16:03:03 <PhilA2> HadleyBeeman: What about the international perspective?
Hadley Beeman: What about the international perspective? ←
16:03:09 <PhilA2> ack me
ack me ←
16:03:41 <PhilA2> BernHyland: the terms we use are generic enough that they can be used anywhere. NIEM is more US-centric
Bernadette Hyland: the terms we use are generic enough that they can be used anywhere. NIEM is more US-centric ←
16:03:50 <PhilA2> Cory: I'm not sure I'd agree with that BernHyland
Cory Casanave: I'm not sure I'd agree with that BernHyland ←
16:04:28 <PhilA2> BernHyland: There's no participation, HadleyBeeman, that is bringing in international perspectives. Lots of hair balls already
Bernadette Hyland: There's no participation, HadleyBeeman, that is bringing in international perspectives. Lots of hair balls already ←
16:05:12 <Biplav> I need to disconnect. For action item #19, I need a location where I can add the use-cases. I understood from last meeting that a separate page was needed, and I would be pointed to it. Will check with BernHyland and add.
Biplav Srivastava: I need to disconnect. For action item #19, I need a location where I can add the use-cases. I understood from last meeting that a separate page was needed, and I would be pointed to it. Will check with BernHyland and add. ←
16:05:16 <PhilA2> BernHyland: We're having a hard time just getting people to add to a wiki
Bernadette Hyland: We're having a hard time just getting people to add to a wiki ←
16:05:47 <PhilA2> HadleyBeeman: I understand that. I'm also on the HTML vocab TF and it would be good to connect those
Hadley Beeman: I understand that. I'm also on the HTML Data TF and it would be good to connect those ←
16:05:51 <Zakim> -??P11
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P11 ←
16:06:09 <PhilA2> s/HTML vocab/HTML Data/
16:06:21 <PhilA2> BernHyland: WE don't have the nadwisth to look at non-RDF vocabs
Bernadette Hyland: WE don't have the nadwisth to look at non-RDF vocabs ←
16:06:37 <HadleyBeeman> HTML data task force: http://www.w3.org/wiki/Html-data-tf
Hadley Beeman: HTML data task force: http://www.w3.org/wiki/Html-data-tf ←
16:06:51 <PhilA2> Cory: No, but we should recognise that they exist and talk about how to brign them together
Cory Casanave: No, but we should recognise that they exist and talk about how to brign them together ←
16:07:47 <Zakim> -Biplav
Zakim IRC Bot: -Biplav ←
16:08:01 <PhilA2> BernHyland: Wrapping up meeting
Bernadette Hyland: Wrapping up meeting ←
16:08:15 <rreck> oh that is during semtech
Ronald Reck: oh that is during semtech ←
16:08:31 <rreck> great, three weeks
Ronald Reck: great, three weeks ←
16:08:31 <PhilA2> BernHyland: Next meeting in 3 weeks due to obscure US-only holidays
Bernadette Hyland: Next meeting in 3 weeks due to obscure US-only holidays ←
16:08:36 <BartvanLeeuwen> bye
Bart van Leeuwen: bye ←
16:08:40 <Zakim> -DanG
Zakim IRC Bot: -DanG ←
16:08:41 <Zakim> -Cory
Zakim IRC Bot: -Cory ←
16:08:41 <rreck> bye
Ronald Reck: bye ←
16:08:42 <Yigal> Thanks Bernadette for leading us!
Yigal Arens: Thanks Bernadette for leading us! ←
16:08:43 <Zakim> -BartvanLeeuwen
Zakim IRC Bot: -BartvanLeeuwen ←
16:08:44 <Zakim> -BernHyland
Zakim IRC Bot: -BernHyland ←
16:08:45 <Zakim> -cygri
Zakim IRC Bot: -cygri ←
16:08:45 <Zakim> -HadleyBeeman
Zakim IRC Bot: -HadleyBeeman ←
16:08:45 <Zakim> -PhilA2
Zakim IRC Bot: -PhilA2 ←
16:08:48 <Zakim> -LyleBurgoon
Zakim IRC Bot: -LyleBurgoon ←
16:08:51 <Zakim> -Yigal
Zakim IRC Bot: -Yigal ←
16:09:11 <BenediktKaempgen> Thanks Bernadette
Benedikt Kaempgen: Thanks Bernadette ←
16:09:34 <gatemezi> thanks all !! bye
Ghislain Atemezing: thanks all !! bye ←
16:09:35 <Zakim> -GeraldSteeman
Zakim IRC Bot: -GeraldSteeman ←
16:09:45 <BernHyland> good bye all.
Bernadette Hyland: good bye all. ←
16:10:03 <Zakim> -rreck
Zakim IRC Bot: -rreck ←
16:10:08 <Zakim> -??P8
Zakim IRC Bot: -??P8 ←
16:10:26 <BernHyland> @PhilA2, you have the end of meeting stuff well in hand, right?
Bernadette Hyland: @PhilA2, you have the end of meeting stuff well in hand, right? ←
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