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<Mario-Batusic> I get every time error: this passcode is not valide. What is it?
<giorgio> that's fine with me
SH: prefer to defer to next week
<christos> yes...
SH: to give all the editors an opportunity to discuss
SH: questions for the panel from the symposium chairs
GB: have to question that i think are
important
... certainly not the only ones
... (1) how to measure the quality of the metric
... (2) how to estimate the error the metric does
... so dealing with validity
... then another group of question based on the conclusions drawn from the
metrics
<Mario-Batusic> Unfortunately, I cannot get in call - will be in chat only.
GB: did you select particular websites based on that?
SAZ: also thinking about applicability or
maturity of metrics
... are they ready to implement?
GB: yes, how demanding they are
... or how expensive
CK: also wondring about the application of the
metrics
... can they be used in search engines? in other production chains?
... how they can be applied in real life situations
GB: do mean we need to qualify the scenarios in the metrics we use?
CK: no, asking the authors how they see their
metrics be deployable
... if they think they can be used in other applications
SH: also application parameters
... how apt they are for large websites, or if they are for specific purposes
etc
... maybe a matrix of what coverage we have
GB: taxonomy of different metrics and implications when to use what type of metrics?
SH: as well as the taxonomy, what parameters we
think would be desirable for certain types of metrics
... if it is automatable, longitudinal or generic etc
SAZ: sounds like a matrix of metrics
SH: also questions like "do think it is useful to
have X-type metrics" and "if so, do we have any?"
... identify gaps of areas where we have no metrics that address concrete
needs
... and identify metrics that are applicable to different areas like webapps,
ARIA, etc
GB: can think of those as a particular
questions
... but leave open depending on contributions
SAZ: would be a great goal of the consolidated
report
... to map out the demand/availability situation
... but maybe not directly a question *during* the symposium
... maybe need questions to help achieve this purpose
GB: agree
SH: yes, this roadmap for researchers and
developers is important
... how many questions do we need?
GB: around three questions?
SH: we have more than that but dependent on the type of submissions?
GB: yes, needs to be rooted on their particular experience
SH: do we need more discussion here or put on a wiki?
GB: put on a wiki and discuss more next week
SH: will start the page and put it on the agenda for next week
SAZ: or put on the existing page?
SH: might make page too long
SAZ: agree but make sure to interlink
SH: do we need more?
... are they where they should be?
GB: maybe send out a reminder two weeks before the deadline
SAZ: will check with shawn on preparing reminder
announcement
... think the spread seems quite broad but no submissions yet
SH: usually on the night of the deadline
<giorgio> yes, we can do that once we have the conference "program"
http://www.w3.org/WAI/RD/tracker/
<scribe> ACTION: shadi look for possibility of reminder tools [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/10/06-rd-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-4 - Look for possibility of reminder tools [on Shadi Abou-Zahra - due 2011-10-13].
iCalendar subscription for due actions
<giorgio> gcalendar is ok with me
<giorgio> google clanedar
<christos> google is fine with me
<giorgio> I'm fine
[discussion of combining tracker with google calendar for reminders]