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RDB2RDF Working Group Teleconference

03 May 2011

Agenda

See also: IRC log

Attendees

Present
Alex, David, Michael, Ashok, Alexandre, Souri, Seema, Marcelo
Regrets
Richard, Juan, Boris, Eric, Ivan, Nuno
Chair
Michael
Scribe
Ashok

Contents


<trackbot> Date: 03 May 2011

<mhausenblas> betehess, are you able to scribe, pls?

<scribe> chair: Michael

<scribe> meeting: RDB2RDF

Yes, I can scribe

<mhausenblas> scribenick: Ashok

Admin

<mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: accept the minutes of last meeting http://www.w3.org/2011/04/26-rdb2rdf-minutes.html

Minutes from April 26

RESOLUTION: Minutes approved w/o objection

f2f at TPAC

<mhausenblas> Zakim aadd is Souri

<mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/34786/TPAC2011/results

<Marcelo> Sorry, I will call in a few minutes

We have asked for one day at TPAC for a f2f

<mhausenblas> Michael: I agree with Ashok re LC planning and using TPAC as a forum for exchange

<mhausenblas> Michael: http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Meetings

Michael: We need at least one editor for each spec ... but everyone in the WG should try and attend

Ashok: Lot's of interesting talks at TPAC

Editor for the DM Spec

Alexandre is now an editor on the DM spec

<mhausenblas> Michael: great to have Alexandre as another DM spec Editor

<mhausenblas> Michael: Great to see dissemination activities by Alexandre - please update http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/Main_Page#Presentations.2C_Outreach_and_Tutorials as well

Action Item Review

<betehess> thanks

<mhausenblas> ACTION-119?

<trackbot> ACTION-119 -- Souripriya Das to propose a solution for ISSUE-18 (SQL string/multiple triplesMap) - new property -- due 2011-04-26 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/119

http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/open

ACTION-119

<mhausenblas> ISSUE-18?

<trackbot> ISSUE-18 -- Allow SQL queries to be reused in a mapping -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/18

Souri: We have updated ISSUE-18
... We want to extend the rr:SQLQuery to allow IRIs as well
... we add a new property rr:hasStringValue for queries as strings
... we show an example of using these properties

David: I think this solves the problem

<mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Accept Souri's and Seema's proposals re rr:hasStringValue and resolve ISSUE-18

<dmcneil> +q

<dmcneil> +q

Souri: The proposal allows extensibility ... perhaps use URI as a bind variable

David: Discusses giving a name to the view

<mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Accept Souri's and Seema's proposals re rr:hasStringBinding and resolve ISSUE-18

<alexdeleon> +q

<alexdeleon> <TripleMap1> rr:relation <r1>. <TripleMap2> rr:relation <r2>. <r1> rr:tableName "x". <r2> rr:sql "SELECT ...".

<dmcneil> +q

<dmcneil> -q

<betehess> /me likes the indirection idea through an IRI

<mhausenblas> close ACTION-119

<trackbot> ACTION-119 Propose a solution for ISSUE-18 (SQL string/multiple triplesMap) - new property closed

<alexdeleon> adeleon

<mhausenblas> ACTION: adeleon to draft a proposal for ISSUE-18 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/05/03-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-122 - Draft a proposal for ISSUE-18 [on Alexander de Leon - due 2011-05-10].

ACTION-121

<mhausenblas> ACTION-121?

<trackbot> ACTION-121 -- Souripriya Das to follow-up on Eric's post regarding ISSUE-29 concerning string casts -- due 2011-04-26 -- OPEN

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/121

<mhausenblas> ISSUE-29?

<trackbot> ISSUE-29 -- Require blank node and IRI identifier expressions to produce strings -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/29

<dmcneil> i think that is a different issue

<mhausenblas> ISSUE-9?

<trackbot> ISSUE-9 -- Generate Blank Nodes for duplicate tuples -- postponed

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/9

<dmcneil> that looks more correct than issue 29

<mhausenblas> Michael: agree with Ashok that input re ISSUE-9 (essentially Ted's ACTION-102) for RDF WG would be great to have

<mhausenblas> Michael: let's continue with ISSUE-29 now, though

<dmcneil> the issue arises outside of the context of the "template" property

Souri: User has to use tochar function to convert to character strings
... Let's give it some more thought

Issue review

<mhausenblas> ISSUE-25?

<trackbot> ISSUE-25 -- Including direct mapping constructs in R2RML mappings -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/25

Re. Issue-25 if tables and columns are not mentioned in the R2R mapping, they will not be mapped. Specifically, the DM semnatics will not be used to map these tables and columns.

scribe: add a para to the R2RML doc saying this

<mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Resolve ISSUE-25 with 'if tables and columns are not mentioned in the R2R mapping, they will not be mapped. Specifically, the DM semnatics will not be used to map these tables and columns.' and update R2RML document accordingly

<juansequeda> +1

<mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Resolve ISSUE-25 with 'if tables and columns are not mentioned in the R2R mapping, they will not be mapped. Specifically, the DM semnatics will not be used to map these tables and columns.' and update R2RML document accordingly and not introduce a new property for it

<dmcneil> PROPOSAL: Resolve ISSUE-25 with 'if tables and columns are not mentioned in the R2R mapping, they will not be mapped. Specifically, the DM semnatics will not be used to map these tables and columns.' and update R2RML document accordingly. Furthermore, the R2RML mapping language will not include a property to invoke the direct mapping.

<mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: Resolve ISSUE-25 with 'if tables and columns are not mentioned in the R2R mapping, they will not be mapped. Specifically, the DM semantics will not be used to map these tables and columns.' 1. update R2RML document accordingly. 2. the R2RML mapping language will not include a property to invoke the direct mapping.

<dmcneil> PROPOSAL: Resolve ISSUE-25 with 'if tables and columns are not mentioned in the R2R mapping, they will not be mapped. Specifically, the DM semantics will not be used to map these tables and columns.' 1. update R2RML document accordingly. 2. at this time the R2RML mapping language will not include a property to invoke the direct mapping.

<dmcneil> added "at this time" to point 2

<dmcneil> i put ISSUE-29 into that same category... as a possible addition to a later version of the spec

RESOLUTION: Issue-25 resolved with proposal above

<mhausenblas> ACTION: Souri to implement decision re ISSUE-25 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/05/03-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-123 - Implement decision re ISSUE-25 [on Souripriya Das - due 2011-05-10].

<mhausenblas> ISSUE-29?

<trackbot> ISSUE-29 -- Require blank node and IRI identifier expressions to produce strings -- open

<trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/29

<dmcneil> PROPOSAL: Resolve ISSUE-29 with: change the R2RML spec to require that blank node identifier and URI expressions be of string types. The work to define how to automatically convert types to strings will be deferred.

<Souri> +1

RESOLUTION: Issue-29 resolved with proposal above

<mhausenblas> ACTION: Seema to implement decision re ISSUE-29 (bNodes identifier and URI expressions be of string types) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/05/03-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action03]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-124 - Implement decision re ISSUE-29 (bNodes identifier and URI expressions be of string types) [on Seema Sundara - due 2011-05-10].

<mhausenblas> [meeting adjourned]

<mhausenblas> trackbot, end telecon

Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: adeleon to draft a proposal for ISSUE-18 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/05/03-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action01]
[NEW] ACTION: Seema to implement decision re ISSUE-29 (bNodes identifier and URI expressions be of string types) [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/05/03-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action03]
[NEW] ACTION: Souri to implement decision re ISSUE-25 [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/05/03-rdb2rdf-minutes.html#action02]
 
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