HTML Speech Incubator Group Teleconference

02 Dec 2010


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Bjorn_Bringert, Dan_Burnett, Olli_Pettay, marc, +1.732.507.aaaa, Milan_Young, Debbie_Dahl, Raj_Tumuluri, +44.207.881.aabb, Satish_Sampath, [Microsoft]
Dan Burnett
Raj Tumuluri


<burn> trackbot, start telcon

<trackbot> Date: 02 December 2010

<smaug_> um, seems like my network connection is pretty bad today

<bringert> I am Bjorn_Bringert

<burn> Scribe: Raj Tumuluri

<burn> Scribenick: Raj

minutes from last week's call

Minutes Approved

Updated Requirements Document

No objections to the new requirements document

R14 (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2010Dec/0015.html

Bjorn proposed rew-wording..are there any objections?

No Objections from the group

R25 (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2010Dec/0014.html

There were some recommendation to the wording ....are there any objections?

No objections from the group

R24 (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2010Dec/0018.html

No objections recorded for the above requirement

Topic R2 (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2010Dec/0023.html

Proposal to replace R2 with two new requirements sent through emails ( last email on Monday)

1. Recogntion w/o specifying grammars should be possible

milan: Did we agree to specify language as part of grammar

Bjorn's wording: Should be possible to specify the language completely independently of the grammar

<burn> bjorn: we already have a requirement to address this

<smaug_> FPR38.

Milan: I did not see that requirement in the document

<burn> milan: does not say "separately from the grammar"

<burn> bjorn: you're right

Milan: Are we using notes as reference or the formal Requirements as the basis

Burn: You are right..the requirements document to be the basis, and not the notes

Bjorn: Michael suggested that we use the text from the notes to reword the requirements doc

<burn> milan and bjorn: we need text for the new requirements

2. App. should be able to specify lang for each recognition

Milan: My concern is that we are NOT capturing all our discussions in the Req. Spec

Bjorn: we should not do this on the phone, but, let Michael incorporate the notes into the spec

<burn> action for michael: add text for each new requirement

<trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - for

Burn: to send Michael action item to update the spec incorporating the notes from minutes

<marc> ACTION: Michael to add text for each new requirement [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/12/02-htmlspeech-minutes.html#action01]

<trackbot> Sorry, amibiguous username (more than one match) - Michael

<trackbot> Try using a different identifier, such as family name or username (eg. mbodell2, mjohnsto)

Michael is Michael Bodell

<marc> ACTION: mbodell2 to add text for each new requirement [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/12/02-htmlspeech-minutes.html#action02]

<trackbot> Created ACTION-1 - Add text for each new requirement [on Michael Bodell - due 2010-12-09].

Burn: So, we do have agreement on the 2 new reqs for R2

R10 (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2010Dec/0017.html

Burn: Few more emails came on this topic post my sending the summary earlier today
... Implementations must support SSML

Agreed to drop R10

: R20 (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2010Dec/0021.html

Bjorn: Selecting a voice can be done without SSMl

being a requirement

R23 (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2010Dec/0016.html

Marc: Is it possible to indicate preference of voices ( like take female voice from among the available)

Bjorn: But you cannot specify a specific engine from a specific vendor, is that correct?

Burn: We have a req. to use SSML but not SSML 1.1,
... SSML1.1 has many of the features for selection of language etc.

Bjorn: If there is no addtional burden, then requiring SSML1.1 seems OK
... If there is no addtional burden, then requiring SSML1.1 seems OK

Burn: So, we can put it into the req. and deal with at the time of priorization

Marc: May be we should delay decision on this..

<marc> Proposed wording:

Marc: letting author to specify the language..Marc to type the wording

<marc> Web application authors should be able to specify the voice with which some text is to be spoken.

burn: That wording is OK by me

<bringert> Web apps should be able to specify which voice is used for TTS

Burn: Bjorn's text will replace the text for R20
... Team agreed

R12 (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2010Dec/0019.html


R23 (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2010Dec/0016.html

<burn> there seemed to be consensus to add "When speech input is used to provide input to a web app, it should be possible for the user to select alternative input methods."

I agree

scribe: there is group agreement on this.

<burn> for the next piece: Chan's last email was http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2010Nov/0207.html

Burn: Burn: There is a second thread, initiated by Chan...since he is not on the call today, we can defer the detailed discussion on that..
... Chan has multiple threads...on this..so, we can just let this happen through email rather than on the phone

Group has no objection with Dan Burnett's suggestion

R12 (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2010Dec/0019.html

UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: webapp developer should be able to specify name-specific Language Model

Burn: We can discuss, but check with Robert, as he has some comments on this

Dahl: The comment from Robert came just last night..and afraid many did not have a chance to review it adequately

<ddahl> actually, the requirement was only sent to the list for discussion last night

Burn: Let's not discuss MUST vs. SHOULD now,.but if there are any other suggestions..we can discuss that..
... There is no standard for that right now..

Bjorn: If the standard becomes available in future, it may be possible to specify this with URI

Burn: It seems that we have agreement on this among the people on the call.....
... We will keep R12 as stated and confirm it on the mailing list

UA/SS (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2010Dec/0020.html

<Milan> Transport layer security (e.g. HTTPS) if requested by the web app.

UNKNOWN_SPEAKER: Milan to post the 3 requirements under this topic

Bjorn: We agreed on the priority level of req..

<smaug_> bringert: did you really said that ^^

Burn: There are many reqs.. that may be very relevant...

Bjorn: WebApp API and UA-2-SpeechAPI are two separate reqs.
... Correction on Bjorns' comment on priority level...Expunge from minutes
... Core needed for any speech API and the other for WebApps..

Burn: Is there anything else that we need to cover today?
... suggest Bjorn correct the statements himself with the appropriate wording..

<bringert> My position on grouping requirements: We should split the requirements document in two sections: 1. Requirements needed for any HTML Speech API, 2. Requirements only needed for web app specified network speech services.

End Minutes

<bringert> What I said about priorities: There was a discussion of the relative priorities of the core Web app - UA API, and the network speech services API, and we didn't come to a conclusion.

<bringert> My position (as I've communicated on the mailing list) is that the Web app API should be considered the core API, and the APIs for specifying and communicating with network speech services should be considered extensions of lower priority.

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Summary of Action Items

[NEW] ACTION: mbodell2 to add text for each new requirement [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/12/02-htmlspeech-minutes.html#action02]
[NEW] ACTION: Michael to add text for each new requirement [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/12/02-htmlspeech-minutes.html#action01]
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Default Present: Bjorn_Bringert, Dan_Burnett, Olli_Pettay, marc, +1.732.507.aaaa, Milan_Young, Debbie_Dahl, Raj_Tumuluri, +44.207.881.aabb, Satish_Sampath, [Microsoft]
Present: Bjorn_Bringert Dan_Burnett Olli_Pettay marc +1.732.507.aaaa Milan_Young Debbie_Dahl Raj_Tumuluri +44.207.881.aabb Satish_Sampath [Microsoft]
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